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I wouldn't call it "gradual" in any way. The group went from three consecutive 4X platinum albums to one that merely went platinum and then the next album was gold. This album had two top 25 songs; New Adventures and all subsequent albums failed to have any top 45 songs!
In the U.S., they lost most commercial standing with New Adventures and the rest with Up and the subsequent albums. I think "gradual" is the wrong word to use. Bsd987 20:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I disagree - I believe it was for River Phoenix, not Cobain. Stipe is kind of ambivalent on it but the "For River" note seems to make this clearer. Fantailfan 17:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I have merged this article into here - individual tracks do not merit their own article. BlueValour 22:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Who is the female voice in king of comedy? starts at 1:05 and i just cant figure it out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.129.151 ( talk) 22:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
While I think that "Personnel" is kind of impersonal, it is a standard used for Wikialbums; Guests for Additional personnel follow under the same argument (I would prefer Additional contributors or something like that). Until the standard is changed, I'd prefer keeping to it. -- Fantailfan 01:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
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No comments on why this was massively reverted? Please explain. -- Fantailfan 01:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey! Between the two of you, you have edited over 10,000 pages; I have edited over 3500. As a
disinterested observer, I am citing the unofficial "way too much time on our hands" doctrine: Let's
compromise!
(a) Dudesleeper is correct on the dating. The reason for this is very simple: for many years now release dates have standardized on Tuesdays in America and Mondays in other places. The difference of a single day is not worth this craziness.
(b) There are no explicit guidelines on how to incorporate an album article in a discography.
| Misc = {{Extra chronology 2 | Artist = | Type = | Last album = | This album = | Next album = }}
Discuss, please. -- Fantailfan ( talk) 20:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been trying to clean this article up a bit, and then it was massively reverted recently by a user i am ignorant to know of, and i think the article is good material for a 'Good Article'. Any thoughts? RedParakeet28 ( talk) 13:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Michael's sister features on the album, why is she not mentioned on the page? 84.92.140.217 ( talk) 11:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I remember I had the album on a cassette and the two sides were called "C side" and 'D side". I don't know if that is relevant to point out, but I thought I'd do so anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.235.147 ( talk) 07:35, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I seem to recall that, at time of release, this album was being touted as a spiritual follow-up to the band's debut album, Murmur. Hence both albums being two-syllable words beginning with M and ending with R. This also explains the 'Side C' and 'Side D' thing; essentially this was the second part of a double-album. Anyone else remember this?-- 81.151.136.14 ( talk) 18:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
This album was not sold 4 million times. It was sold 2,9 million copies. But here I see 4,000,000. It was shipped 4 million times.
But what hurts me. This album was overshipped. Meaning retailers ordered it and thought they will sell it but as a result the album was sold only 2,9 million times
in the 90s club sales had been popular. This album may have been sold 200000 copies via this way but not in total 4,000,000 times
please stop claiming false things. And this link
Let's R.E.M.-ember: 31 Billboard Chart Milestones Over The Band's 31-Year Career". billboard.com. Billboard. Retrieved 2011-09-24.
is error. Some cannot see numbers or so. Just photographs. But years ago when they broke up there were numbers. No idea why removed `?
And then I saw 2,9 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.111.57.236 ( talk) 12:25, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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Shoot. Meant to say this earlier today. I'm going to be out of town tomorrow and most of Sunday. I will get right to it when I get back. I've got ideas on expanding per your request, but nothing quite ready to put in yet. dannymusiceditor oops 00:36, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@ DannyMusicEditor: That looks good and I'll look for your new edits this evening. I think that your new edit should also be reflected into the lead section right before you introduce them going on tour in the second paragraph. After you try that, then it might be useful to start a third paragraph in the lede for the start of the promotional tour. You can decide what's best for the lede section in terms of 2 or 3 paragraph format once you try it. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 20:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
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I wouldn't call it "gradual" in any way. The group went from three consecutive 4X platinum albums to one that merely went platinum and then the next album was gold. This album had two top 25 songs; New Adventures and all subsequent albums failed to have any top 45 songs!
In the U.S., they lost most commercial standing with New Adventures and the rest with Up and the subsequent albums. I think "gradual" is the wrong word to use. Bsd987 20:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I disagree - I believe it was for River Phoenix, not Cobain. Stipe is kind of ambivalent on it but the "For River" note seems to make this clearer. Fantailfan 17:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I have merged this article into here - individual tracks do not merit their own article. BlueValour 22:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Who is the female voice in king of comedy? starts at 1:05 and i just cant figure it out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.129.151 ( talk) 22:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
While I think that "Personnel" is kind of impersonal, it is a standard used for Wikialbums; Guests for Additional personnel follow under the same argument (I would prefer Additional contributors or something like that). Until the standard is changed, I'd prefer keeping to it. -- Fantailfan 01:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Please do not remove professional reviews that are deemed acceptable by WikiProject Album standards. -- Fantailfan 22:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
No comments on why this was massively reverted? Please explain. -- Fantailfan 01:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey! Between the two of you, you have edited over 10,000 pages; I have edited over 3500. As a
disinterested observer, I am citing the unofficial "way too much time on our hands" doctrine: Let's
compromise!
(a) Dudesleeper is correct on the dating. The reason for this is very simple: for many years now release dates have standardized on Tuesdays in America and Mondays in other places. The difference of a single day is not worth this craziness.
(b) There are no explicit guidelines on how to incorporate an album article in a discography.
| Misc = {{Extra chronology 2 | Artist = | Type = | Last album = | This album = | Next album = }}
Discuss, please. -- Fantailfan ( talk) 20:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been trying to clean this article up a bit, and then it was massively reverted recently by a user i am ignorant to know of, and i think the article is good material for a 'Good Article'. Any thoughts? RedParakeet28 ( talk) 13:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Michael's sister features on the album, why is she not mentioned on the page? 84.92.140.217 ( talk) 11:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I remember I had the album on a cassette and the two sides were called "C side" and 'D side". I don't know if that is relevant to point out, but I thought I'd do so anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.235.147 ( talk) 07:35, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I seem to recall that, at time of release, this album was being touted as a spiritual follow-up to the band's debut album, Murmur. Hence both albums being two-syllable words beginning with M and ending with R. This also explains the 'Side C' and 'Side D' thing; essentially this was the second part of a double-album. Anyone else remember this?-- 81.151.136.14 ( talk) 18:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
This album was not sold 4 million times. It was sold 2,9 million copies. But here I see 4,000,000. It was shipped 4 million times.
But what hurts me. This album was overshipped. Meaning retailers ordered it and thought they will sell it but as a result the album was sold only 2,9 million times
in the 90s club sales had been popular. This album may have been sold 200000 copies via this way but not in total 4,000,000 times
please stop claiming false things. And this link
Let's R.E.M.-ember: 31 Billboard Chart Milestones Over The Band's 31-Year Career". billboard.com. Billboard. Retrieved 2011-09-24.
is error. Some cannot see numbers or so. Just photographs. But years ago when they broke up there were numbers. No idea why removed `?
And then I saw 2,9 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.111.57.236 ( talk) 12:25, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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Shoot. Meant to say this earlier today. I'm going to be out of town tomorrow and most of Sunday. I will get right to it when I get back. I've got ideas on expanding per your request, but nothing quite ready to put in yet. dannymusiceditor oops 00:36, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@ DannyMusicEditor: That looks good and I'll look for your new edits this evening. I think that your new edit should also be reflected into the lead section right before you introduce them going on tour in the second paragraph. After you try that, then it might be useful to start a third paragraph in the lede for the start of the promotional tour. You can decide what's best for the lede section in terms of 2 or 3 paragraph format once you try it. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 20:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
This article has received the benefit of a GOCE copy editing which has worked to its advantage. The nominating editor is knowledgeable of the band and its previous recording history, and has responded directly to edit requests made in this review by directly placing the edits into the article itself. The narrative of the article reads well and the images used are useful and all check out properly. The option of moving the lede to a three paragraph slightly expanded version may be useful if the article development is continued towards further peer review promotion. If the nominating editor has an interest in other article upgrades he may contact me on my Talk page. This article in now promoted to GA level. JohnWickTwo ( talk) 16:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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