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This article is very poorly written by Wikipedia standards for a topic of this importance. Someone with editing skills please have a look. 98.229.65.91 ( talk) 19:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)JH
There is a conflict between this article and the Jim Thorpe article about who won the pentathalon in the 1912 Olympics. The Jim Thorpe article says that Thorpe initially won, with Ferdinand Bie was second. The article goes on to say that Thorpe was later stripped of his medal due to professionalism, and Bie was given the honor. However this pentathalon article lists Gosta Lillehook as the winner. One or the other article appears to be wrong. Perhaps someone with access to the original results can clarify this.
Event: | Gold: | Silver: | Bronze: | |||
1906# | Hjalmer Mellander SWE | 24 | István Mudin HUN | 25 | Eric Lemming SWE | 29 |
1908 | not held | |||||
1912 | Jim Thorpe USA & | 7* | James Donahue USA | 29 | Frank Lukeman CAN | 29 |
Ferdinand Bie NOR | 21 | |||||
1920 | Eero Lehtonen FIN | 14 | Everett Bradley USA | 24 | Hugo Lahtinen FIN | 26 |
1924 | Eero Lehtonen FIN | 14 | Elemér Somfay HUN | 16 | Robert LeGendre USA | 18 |
I have made a correction about the range that the targets are shot at (100 metres to 10 metres). 202.146.253.4 08:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't the marathon also created specifically for the modern Olympics? - Fundamentisto ( talk) 20:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Isn't this article... a little too short by English Wikipedia standards? I can think of reasons why (its low popularity in English speaking countries), but a sport that has been Olympic since 1912 deserves a little more attention. Should we ask fluent speakers to translate the Hungarian or Czech article? Steinbach ( talk) 11:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be some kind of "sea pentathlon" (direct translation from Finnish language) in which women's team world championship was held today. Yet nothing about that discipline in the article. Finnish federation of this sport has three disciplines apart the normal: sea pentathlon, air pentathlon and military pentathlon. 82.141.66.2 ( talk) 19:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
How do you load a laser pistol? Or have they gone back to "proper" guns? Unclear, confusing.
Kortoso ( talk) 21:49, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Was the steeplechase in the original modern pentathlon or are authors confusing it with the show jumping discipline? Kortoso ( talk) 17:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
"However, an innovation was introduced in 2009 to make the finale of the pentathlon more exciting. The last event is the Combined event: laser pistol shooting and cross-country running. Competitors are ranked according to their score from the first three disciplines and given start times accordingly, with the leader going first, and other starting times being dependent on the number of points already scored. The first person to cross the finish line, therefore, will be the overall points leader and win the pentathlon" - I don't think this is entirely correct. I think the first person over the line has always been the winner (or at least, this has been in place for a long time), and the only innovation in 2009 was to mix the shooting with the running. Adpete ( talk) 12:54, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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In the Army I finished basic training and was shipped to Ft Sam Houston TX for Xray school. The National training center for the Olympic Pentathlon team trained at Ft Sam Houston too.
We arrived a week early, so they lent us out to the Pentathlon team to help "Move things".
The officer who ran the team gave us a history of the modern pentathlon similar to that described in the text- except he specified the "soldier" as a "courier" who had to deliver by horseback, run if unhorsed, swim if reaching a body of water, fight wit a gun if encountered, fight with the foil should he not have or has exhausted his pistol.
I cannot offer his name, but I figured he would know- the US military has done well in the sport all through the 20th century
I heard that Baron de Coubertain got his inspiration from "Michael Strogoff: The Courier of the Czar" (French: Michel Strogoff) a novel written by Jules Verne in 1876. That courier had to make use of exactly those skills to make his way with an important dispatch. 83.223.9.100 ( talk) 14:28, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
The 2020 Olympic Games seem to have a bonus fencing round after the swimming. As far as I can tell, it's a direct elimination, with participants scoring one point per win. Someone who knows more of the details should add this to the article. 62.216.5.216 ( talk) 15:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Stevo1000: removed the criticism section due to WP:Recentism. While he might have a point that it was maybe a little too detailed, there should be such a section, as changes to the current competition format are demanded by many due to those recent events. [1] [2] 95.91.222.218 ( talk) 23:44, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
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This entire article needs rewritten due to the nonsensical inclusion of winners of the pentathlon, without naming the winners just when Team USA did. Wikipedia is for everyone not just Americans. The same goes for the Olympics. ThaddeusThomas ( talk) 03:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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This article is very poorly written by Wikipedia standards for a topic of this importance. Someone with editing skills please have a look. 98.229.65.91 ( talk) 19:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)JH
There is a conflict between this article and the Jim Thorpe article about who won the pentathalon in the 1912 Olympics. The Jim Thorpe article says that Thorpe initially won, with Ferdinand Bie was second. The article goes on to say that Thorpe was later stripped of his medal due to professionalism, and Bie was given the honor. However this pentathalon article lists Gosta Lillehook as the winner. One or the other article appears to be wrong. Perhaps someone with access to the original results can clarify this.
Event: | Gold: | Silver: | Bronze: | |||
1906# | Hjalmer Mellander SWE | 24 | István Mudin HUN | 25 | Eric Lemming SWE | 29 |
1908 | not held | |||||
1912 | Jim Thorpe USA & | 7* | James Donahue USA | 29 | Frank Lukeman CAN | 29 |
Ferdinand Bie NOR | 21 | |||||
1920 | Eero Lehtonen FIN | 14 | Everett Bradley USA | 24 | Hugo Lahtinen FIN | 26 |
1924 | Eero Lehtonen FIN | 14 | Elemér Somfay HUN | 16 | Robert LeGendre USA | 18 |
I have made a correction about the range that the targets are shot at (100 metres to 10 metres). 202.146.253.4 08:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't the marathon also created specifically for the modern Olympics? - Fundamentisto ( talk) 20:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Isn't this article... a little too short by English Wikipedia standards? I can think of reasons why (its low popularity in English speaking countries), but a sport that has been Olympic since 1912 deserves a little more attention. Should we ask fluent speakers to translate the Hungarian or Czech article? Steinbach ( talk) 11:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be some kind of "sea pentathlon" (direct translation from Finnish language) in which women's team world championship was held today. Yet nothing about that discipline in the article. Finnish federation of this sport has three disciplines apart the normal: sea pentathlon, air pentathlon and military pentathlon. 82.141.66.2 ( talk) 19:16, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
How do you load a laser pistol? Or have they gone back to "proper" guns? Unclear, confusing.
Kortoso ( talk) 21:49, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Was the steeplechase in the original modern pentathlon or are authors confusing it with the show jumping discipline? Kortoso ( talk) 17:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
"However, an innovation was introduced in 2009 to make the finale of the pentathlon more exciting. The last event is the Combined event: laser pistol shooting and cross-country running. Competitors are ranked according to their score from the first three disciplines and given start times accordingly, with the leader going first, and other starting times being dependent on the number of points already scored. The first person to cross the finish line, therefore, will be the overall points leader and win the pentathlon" - I don't think this is entirely correct. I think the first person over the line has always been the winner (or at least, this has been in place for a long time), and the only innovation in 2009 was to mix the shooting with the running. Adpete ( talk) 12:54, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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In the Army I finished basic training and was shipped to Ft Sam Houston TX for Xray school. The National training center for the Olympic Pentathlon team trained at Ft Sam Houston too.
We arrived a week early, so they lent us out to the Pentathlon team to help "Move things".
The officer who ran the team gave us a history of the modern pentathlon similar to that described in the text- except he specified the "soldier" as a "courier" who had to deliver by horseback, run if unhorsed, swim if reaching a body of water, fight wit a gun if encountered, fight with the foil should he not have or has exhausted his pistol.
I cannot offer his name, but I figured he would know- the US military has done well in the sport all through the 20th century
I heard that Baron de Coubertain got his inspiration from "Michael Strogoff: The Courier of the Czar" (French: Michel Strogoff) a novel written by Jules Verne in 1876. That courier had to make use of exactly those skills to make his way with an important dispatch. 83.223.9.100 ( talk) 14:28, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
The 2020 Olympic Games seem to have a bonus fencing round after the swimming. As far as I can tell, it's a direct elimination, with participants scoring one point per win. Someone who knows more of the details should add this to the article. 62.216.5.216 ( talk) 15:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Stevo1000: removed the criticism section due to WP:Recentism. While he might have a point that it was maybe a little too detailed, there should be such a section, as changes to the current competition format are demanded by many due to those recent events. [1] [2] 95.91.222.218 ( talk) 23:44, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
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This entire article needs rewritten due to the nonsensical inclusion of winners of the pentathlon, without naming the winners just when Team USA did. Wikipedia is for everyone not just Americans. The same goes for the Olympics. ThaddeusThomas ( talk) 03:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)