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I still don't get the nature of the Midheaven and exactly how come a 15° Taurus Ascendant is not concurrent with a 15° Aquarius Midheaven. This delineation is critical for the ongoing, heated discussion of house systems in astrology. Thanks for any expansion on it. -- Nathanael Bar-Aur L. ( talk) 15:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
i have been practicing astrology for many years, and i find the Midheaven to be much more in the relation to the father, than in the relation to the mother. what about you ? 81.33.63.231 ( talk) 15:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
The page says: "In the northern hemisphere, ... [the Midheaven] will always be the part of the zodiac that is due south at any time... The reverse is true in the southern hemisphere where the planets culminate on the midheaven in alignment with due north. (This rule holds true for all locations outside of the tropics)." Followed by a footnote to The Houses: Temples of the Sky by Deborah Houlding.
The last sentence is not correct; it is based on a misreading of the source that it was taken from. Houlding actually says: "With the MC [Midheaven] and IC [Imum Coeli] then, there is true alignment between the astrological angles and the cardinal directions south and north. This is not usually the case with the ascendant and the east, or the descendant and the west." Then she puts a footnote and says: "This rule holds true for all locations outside of the tropics." (p. 101-102 of The Houses: Temples of the Sky)
What Houlding is saying is: at northern and southern latitudes the MC and IC match up with north and south, but the Ascendant and Descendant don't usually match up with east and west. However, in the tropics these four angles usually DO match up with the cardinal directions. The MC and IC are always north and south, but whether or not the Ascendant and Descendant match up with east and west depends on whether or not the observer is in the tropics.
Ok.. I hope that's clear!! Please let me know if you think I'm wrong.... Mattj2 ( talk) 03:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Karl ( talk) 14:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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I still don't get the nature of the Midheaven and exactly how come a 15° Taurus Ascendant is not concurrent with a 15° Aquarius Midheaven. This delineation is critical for the ongoing, heated discussion of house systems in astrology. Thanks for any expansion on it. -- Nathanael Bar-Aur L. ( talk) 15:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
i have been practicing astrology for many years, and i find the Midheaven to be much more in the relation to the father, than in the relation to the mother. what about you ? 81.33.63.231 ( talk) 15:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
The page says: "In the northern hemisphere, ... [the Midheaven] will always be the part of the zodiac that is due south at any time... The reverse is true in the southern hemisphere where the planets culminate on the midheaven in alignment with due north. (This rule holds true for all locations outside of the tropics)." Followed by a footnote to The Houses: Temples of the Sky by Deborah Houlding.
The last sentence is not correct; it is based on a misreading of the source that it was taken from. Houlding actually says: "With the MC [Midheaven] and IC [Imum Coeli] then, there is true alignment between the astrological angles and the cardinal directions south and north. This is not usually the case with the ascendant and the east, or the descendant and the west." Then she puts a footnote and says: "This rule holds true for all locations outside of the tropics." (p. 101-102 of The Houses: Temples of the Sky)
What Houlding is saying is: at northern and southern latitudes the MC and IC match up with north and south, but the Ascendant and Descendant don't usually match up with east and west. However, in the tropics these four angles usually DO match up with the cardinal directions. The MC and IC are always north and south, but whether or not the Ascendant and Descendant match up with east and west depends on whether or not the observer is in the tropics.
Ok.. I hope that's clear!! Please let me know if you think I'm wrong.... Mattj2 ( talk) 03:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Karl ( talk) 14:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)