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Uh, isn't his last name spelled with an e instead of an o, as in "Larsen"? Denelson83 06:59, 30 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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I just checked this to be sure; the Game Show Network documentary about him definately has it spelled 'Larson' with an 'o'. Sites out on the internet that have it spelled with an 'e' are just incorrect. Skybunny 15:59, 30 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Anyone here been keeping up with Jeopardy! lately? At the beginning of the current season, they eliminated the "Five wins and you leave" rule. Now, there's a guy on there who has won 30 games straight (And still going), and he has total winnings so far exceeding $1 million! Very Larson-esque in my opinion. (Anonymous, 14 July 2004, 21:21 UTC)
Why did the show have the lights flash like that, and not randomly?
According to a letter received by Brad Francini, the webmaster of http://www.gscentral.net, from staffer Darlene Lieblich, there was one spin where she (then the scoreboard operator) accidentally added $2,000 to Michael's total when in reality he only hit $1,000. This is the spin, that in the list on the main article, is supposedly edited out. Someone needs to correct the spin list to reflect this.
No need to analyze his spins like that. That's called fanwank and original research. I know the Big Bucks special did a specific analysis of some of his spins; a small amount of that analysis, sourced to direct quotes from the GSN special, is all we'd really need here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Otters want attention) 04:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree that this article needs some specific information about Larson's spins. This is the exact information I was looking for when I first came to this page. Instead, I had to watch his actual performance in the documentary and write down his spins. I attempted to add this information to the article, but it was undone. Is there anyway we can get at least some of this very interesting and useful information allowed into the article? FishDawg1 ( talk) 21:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. It seems User:Fourthords may be creating a new article for this topic that isn't formatted as a biography. For the time being, with the article's current presentation, the title is fine as-is. It can be redirected once the new article goes live. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 16:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Michael Larson → ? – To quote @
Fourthords: in the GAR, I cannot understand why this is written as a biography, given
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#People notable for only one event. 82.8 percent of the article is directly related to the Press Your Luck event, and the rest is only sourced to articles discussing him in that same context[...]There's plenty of sources here to write
Press Your Luck scandal appropriately, but it too would need to reckon with the other problems listed on this—and the article's talk—page.
I don't usually deal with BLPs in this context, so I'm not sure what the most appropriate move should be here, but this is not the first time
WP:BLP1E has come up within his context so I feel it should be discussed. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Conradt did have 'a Wikipedia Biography created for over ten years', but 90% of that biography was about the [event and its fallout] (there are only a couple of sentences about his life before that, and none of those provided any real notability per BIO). I am sure that if that article had been only that section and nominated for deletion, it would have been deleted. Thus, his notability lies purely in the [event in question], and that is what we now have.I obviously concurred, having written the newer article, but it was nice to have that whole AN/I thread as confirmation. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 06:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
These cases are not comparable.I and others are not having any difficulty doing so; I'm sorry you're unable.
First, to say so again: this was not a scandal.Unfortunately we cannot cite User:SnowFire for that. However, Game Show Network, Damn Interesting, the Boston Herald, Mental Floss, Canino, Brian Brushwood, the Dayton Daily News, and others do all use that word when referring to the overall event.
I strongly oppose any attempt to move this to a title with "scandal" in the name.Given your opposition to reliable sources who use that word, I'll repeat Ten Pound's Hammer: what title would you give the article about this event? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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Michael Larson was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||||||||
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Uh, isn't his last name spelled with an e instead of an o, as in "Larsen"? Denelson83 06:59, 30 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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I just checked this to be sure; the Game Show Network documentary about him definately has it spelled 'Larson' with an 'o'. Sites out on the internet that have it spelled with an 'e' are just incorrect. Skybunny 15:59, 30 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Anyone here been keeping up with Jeopardy! lately? At the beginning of the current season, they eliminated the "Five wins and you leave" rule. Now, there's a guy on there who has won 30 games straight (And still going), and he has total winnings so far exceeding $1 million! Very Larson-esque in my opinion. (Anonymous, 14 July 2004, 21:21 UTC)
Why did the show have the lights flash like that, and not randomly?
According to a letter received by Brad Francini, the webmaster of http://www.gscentral.net, from staffer Darlene Lieblich, there was one spin where she (then the scoreboard operator) accidentally added $2,000 to Michael's total when in reality he only hit $1,000. This is the spin, that in the list on the main article, is supposedly edited out. Someone needs to correct the spin list to reflect this.
No need to analyze his spins like that. That's called fanwank and original research. I know the Big Bucks special did a specific analysis of some of his spins; a small amount of that analysis, sourced to direct quotes from the GSN special, is all we'd really need here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Otters want attention) 04:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I agree that this article needs some specific information about Larson's spins. This is the exact information I was looking for when I first came to this page. Instead, I had to watch his actual performance in the documentary and write down his spins. I attempted to add this information to the article, but it was undone. Is there anyway we can get at least some of this very interesting and useful information allowed into the article? FishDawg1 ( talk) 21:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. It seems User:Fourthords may be creating a new article for this topic that isn't formatted as a biography. For the time being, with the article's current presentation, the title is fine as-is. It can be redirected once the new article goes live. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 16:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Michael Larson → ? – To quote @
Fourthords: in the GAR, I cannot understand why this is written as a biography, given
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#People notable for only one event. 82.8 percent of the article is directly related to the Press Your Luck event, and the rest is only sourced to articles discussing him in that same context[...]There's plenty of sources here to write
Press Your Luck scandal appropriately, but it too would need to reckon with the other problems listed on this—and the article's talk—page.
I don't usually deal with BLPs in this context, so I'm not sure what the most appropriate move should be here, but this is not the first time
WP:BLP1E has come up within his context so I feel it should be discussed. Ten Pound Hammer • (
What did I screw up now?) 15:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Conradt did have 'a Wikipedia Biography created for over ten years', but 90% of that biography was about the [event and its fallout] (there are only a couple of sentences about his life before that, and none of those provided any real notability per BIO). I am sure that if that article had been only that section and nominated for deletion, it would have been deleted. Thus, his notability lies purely in the [event in question], and that is what we now have.I obviously concurred, having written the newer article, but it was nice to have that whole AN/I thread as confirmation. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 06:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
These cases are not comparable.I and others are not having any difficulty doing so; I'm sorry you're unable.
First, to say so again: this was not a scandal.Unfortunately we cannot cite User:SnowFire for that. However, Game Show Network, Damn Interesting, the Boston Herald, Mental Floss, Canino, Brian Brushwood, the Dayton Daily News, and others do all use that word when referring to the overall event.
I strongly oppose any attempt to move this to a title with "scandal" in the name.Given your opposition to reliable sources who use that word, I'll repeat Ten Pound's Hammer: what title would you give the article about this event? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)