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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " Did you know?" column on July 18, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Melville Fuller's mustache (pictured) was denounced as "deplorable" by the New York Sun, which claimed that it distracted lawyers and debased the court's dignity?
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Gonzalez vs. Williams

Chief Justice Fuller's famous immigration case, Gonzalez vs. Williams, was not mentioned in the article so I added details pertaining to the case, including the mention of Isabel Gonzalez (appellant), and how she paved the way for US citizenship rights for Puerto Rico. Belinda Torres-Mary ( talk) 18:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Term of service as Chief Justice

Hi. Mr. Fuller started as Chief Justice of the United States on October 8, 1888, not July 20, 1888. He was confirmed by the Senate on July 20, but he chose not to take the oath, which is what counts as the start for our purposes (and nearly everyone else's). The oath is mentioned here: < http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/members_text.aspx>

Quoting from that page:

The date a Member of the Court took his/her Judicial oath (the Judiciary Act provided “That the Justices of the Supreme Court, and the district judges, before they proceed to execute the duties of their respective offices, shall take the following oath . . . ”) is here used as the date of the beginning of his/her service, for until that oath is taken he/she is not vested with the prerogatives of the office.

I clarified the situation in this edit. The other lists on Wikipedia (e.g., List of United States Chief Justices by age and List of Chief Justices of the United States by time in office) use October 8, the U.S. Supreme Court uses it (see link above), Kermit L. Hall lists it as such, and the cited book discusses this in detail (and the book discusses Mr. Fuller's reasoning, which could also be added to the article, if anyone were so inclined). -- MZMcBride ( talk) 01:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

MZMcBride, I would suggest that you might want to format the references like I did in Morrison Waite‎. Oyez.org also has all the relevant dates of confirmation receipt of commission, and oath of office. That would be closer to standard. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 08:26, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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Expansion

I have substantially expanded this article, so I'd appreciate it if any talk-page watchers would like to read it through to find any embarrassing mistakes. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC) reply

Not a mistake, but I would suggest noting that Fuller's death during the Republican administration of William Howard Taft gave the president the ability to shift the composition of the court. Taft could have appointed a Republican to succeed Fuller as Chief Justice, but instead opted to elevate Associate Justice Edward Douglass White. However, Taft did nominate Republican Willis Van Devanter to fill the vacancy on the court caused by White's elevation. BD2412 T 18:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Very interesting! From what I gather, Taft and White had very similar judicial philosophies notwithstanding their different political parties. As such, elevating White was hardly the act of altruism that the modern eye might perceive it to be. (Some even think Taft deliberately chose the older White so that he could succeed him when the time came. If that was his plan, it worked!) I'm not sure how helpful this fascinating information would be here, though: it would probably make more sense to discuss it in White's article. If I ever finish Fuller, perhaps I'll work on White. He seems to have been a very interesting character also. (Wouldn't it be great if "Chief Justices of the United States" became a good/featured topic? That would be such a wonderful thing, although it would take eons to complete.) Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this. May I ask your thoughts on this article's readiness for GAN? I'm proud of my work here, but I'd appreciate another perspective from someone who understands both the Good Article process and the law – e.g. you. Cheers! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 04:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Well, I will say that I have only brought a handful of articles to GA status, and never guided the process, but I don't see anything here that falls afoul of GA standards. I have started a stub for the redlinked case, McCray v. United States. BD2412 T 05:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks for starting McCray - I was going to do that eventually but I'm glad you've taken care of it. I've now nominated Fuller for GA status, so we'll see what becomes of that. Again, thanks! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 06:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Featured articleMelville Fuller is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on February 11, 2022.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 11, 2021 Good article nomineeListed
August 30, 2021 Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
September 6, 2021 Peer reviewReviewed
October 17, 2021 Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " Did you know?" column on July 18, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Melville Fuller's mustache (pictured) was denounced as "deplorable" by the New York Sun, which claimed that it distracted lawyers and debased the court's dignity?
Current status: Featured article

Gonzalez vs. Williams

Chief Justice Fuller's famous immigration case, Gonzalez vs. Williams, was not mentioned in the article so I added details pertaining to the case, including the mention of Isabel Gonzalez (appellant), and how she paved the way for US citizenship rights for Puerto Rico. Belinda Torres-Mary ( talk) 18:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Term of service as Chief Justice

Hi. Mr. Fuller started as Chief Justice of the United States on October 8, 1888, not July 20, 1888. He was confirmed by the Senate on July 20, but he chose not to take the oath, which is what counts as the start for our purposes (and nearly everyone else's). The oath is mentioned here: < http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/members_text.aspx>

Quoting from that page:

The date a Member of the Court took his/her Judicial oath (the Judiciary Act provided “That the Justices of the Supreme Court, and the district judges, before they proceed to execute the duties of their respective offices, shall take the following oath . . . ”) is here used as the date of the beginning of his/her service, for until that oath is taken he/she is not vested with the prerogatives of the office.

I clarified the situation in this edit. The other lists on Wikipedia (e.g., List of United States Chief Justices by age and List of Chief Justices of the United States by time in office) use October 8, the U.S. Supreme Court uses it (see link above), Kermit L. Hall lists it as such, and the cited book discusses this in detail (and the book discusses Mr. Fuller's reasoning, which could also be added to the article, if anyone were so inclined). -- MZMcBride ( talk) 01:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

MZMcBride, I would suggest that you might want to format the references like I did in Morrison Waite‎. Oyez.org also has all the relevant dates of confirmation receipt of commission, and oath of office. That would be closer to standard. 7&6=thirteen ( ) 08:26, 22 May 2012 (UTC) reply

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Expansion

I have substantially expanded this article, so I'd appreciate it if any talk-page watchers would like to read it through to find any embarrassing mistakes. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC) reply

Not a mistake, but I would suggest noting that Fuller's death during the Republican administration of William Howard Taft gave the president the ability to shift the composition of the court. Taft could have appointed a Republican to succeed Fuller as Chief Justice, but instead opted to elevate Associate Justice Edward Douglass White. However, Taft did nominate Republican Willis Van Devanter to fill the vacancy on the court caused by White's elevation. BD2412 T 18:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Very interesting! From what I gather, Taft and White had very similar judicial philosophies notwithstanding their different political parties. As such, elevating White was hardly the act of altruism that the modern eye might perceive it to be. (Some even think Taft deliberately chose the older White so that he could succeed him when the time came. If that was his plan, it worked!) I'm not sure how helpful this fascinating information would be here, though: it would probably make more sense to discuss it in White's article. If I ever finish Fuller, perhaps I'll work on White. He seems to have been a very interesting character also. (Wouldn't it be great if "Chief Justices of the United States" became a good/featured topic? That would be such a wonderful thing, although it would take eons to complete.) Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this. May I ask your thoughts on this article's readiness for GAN? I'm proud of my work here, but I'd appreciate another perspective from someone who understands both the Good Article process and the law – e.g. you. Cheers! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 04:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Well, I will say that I have only brought a handful of articles to GA status, and never guided the process, but I don't see anything here that falls afoul of GA standards. I have started a stub for the redlinked case, McCray v. United States. BD2412 T 05:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Thanks for starting McCray - I was going to do that eventually but I'm glad you've taken care of it. I've now nominated Fuller for GA status, so we'll see what becomes of that. Again, thanks! Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 06:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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