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A. Demidov ( talk) 11:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
There are just a few areas that I think remain unclear either from lack of info or from ambiguity in the wording, though there may be a little awkward wording left. I'm posting here to make sure my changes didn't change the meaning and to bring up a couple issues I think need to be addressed:
The main thing I think the article still needs is references after factual statements. And of course more info would also be great! Many thanks to Demidov2007 for expanding the article! delldot talk 08:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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I don't know if I should replace "There is a well-developed, internationally important engine-constructing industry." by "There is a well-developed, internationally important engineering industry."
A. Demidov ( talk) 11:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I added a new sub section Melitopol in World War II. As for the rest, I didn't touch it today, but I am going to replace engine-constructing by engeneering, because one enterprise of Melitopol produces engines for vehicles, another designs and produces compressors... different compressors, which are exported to different enterprises of the world. I know something about it, because being in college, I had a scientific work relating to it. However, I will save the word engine-constructing until I mention the enterprise in the article... Or it may be done now?
About template... I don't even know how to name my mistake. I actually meant tag. What tag? Well, I don't know. I update the article every day, this contradicts the conditions of the League (of copy-editors). Nobody of CEs will copyedit the article, which is tagged with the {{copyedit}} tag and re-edited every single day. Is there another tag?
As for the cherry, I didn't understand what you meant, to be honest. To what exactly section?
A. Demidov ( talk) 18:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I replaced "not all of the enterprises were renamed" by "no one of the enterprises was renamed", since that was what I meant by "all of the enterprises were not renamed". I don't touch the rest of the article and edits by Delldot until I translate the major part.
By the way, thanks for the new edit, Delldot! Sure, I would notice "began increase" and add "to" but it would take a lot of attention and time. As for "Nazi Germany", I just didn't know if it needed the definite article or not.
Some mistakes are not corrected, but I should translate more text today, and also from Ukrainian Wikipedia. Generally, it contains much less data than the Russian version does, but since Melitopol is a Ukrainian city, the article of uk:Мелітополь doesn't lack info. Actually, I'd add it anyway, but this would take much time; all I have to do by now is to translate something from Ukrainian into English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demidov2007 ( talk • contribs) 08:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Somebody's edited the article and misunderstood the sense of the sentence "officials stated that it was necessary to disarm the depots and that the only measure available to do so was to carry out controlled explosions on a regular basis", this did not cause the very first fire. Please, do not move anything like "Reasons for the explosions vary: " to such meaningful sentences.
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Are we sure Melitopol is under Russia's control? Ukraine denies it and even the UK have cast doubt on it-- Karma1998 ( talk) 13:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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WHAT: Remove the line stating that the city is in Russian control.
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ALTERNATIVE SOURCE: The articled linked below quotes British armed forces minister, James Heappey, disputing the announcement by Russia's defense ministry: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk-believes-russians-have-not-taken-melitopol-minister-heappey-says-2022-02-26/ Rcixrp ( talk) 04:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Galina Danilchenko was appointed mayor by Russian military. But the Melitopol City Council had declared that "The occupying troops of the Russian Federation are trying to illegally create an occupation administration of the city of Melitopol. [1] The City Council appealed to the Prosecutor General of Ukraine Iryna Venediktova to launch a pre-trial investigation into Danilchenko and her party Opposition Bloc for treason. [1] According to Lovemankind83 " Danilchenko is "de-facto" mayor because she has the support of the souvereign in melitopol: The Russsian army". How can Danilchenko be "de-facto" mayor when "her own" city council states she is a traitor? Besides we do not know if any civil servant takes/executes her order. You can only be be "de-facto" mayor if you have any real power; "Russia says you are mayor, so you are mayor" is simply a faulty argument. It would be best to state that currently she is the Russian installed mayor. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please handle the disambiguation page Melitopol (disambiguation)
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The director has been liberated, curator perished. Two different women. Xx236 ( talk) 09:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/mayor-up-to-60-000-people-remain-in-russian-occupied-melitopol-or-one-third-of-pre-invasion-population Xx236 ( talk) 06:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
From the lead "As of January 2022 Melitopol's population was approximately 148,851". The phrase suggests that the city has still many inhabitants. should be removed from the lead. Xx236 ( talk) 07:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
The first sentence states the city is in the “south-west” of Ukraine. I’m not an expert but when I look at the map it sure looks like it is in the southEAST of Ukraine. Thoughts? Sherseydc ( talk) 14:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
There is (was) no "Russia-affiliated" police chief. Oleksandr Mishchenko was a defector. A traitor, who served a fascist dictatorship. Similarly, Quisling was not a German-affiliated Norwegian politician, but a Norwegian traitor, a Nazi collaborator. 188.143.53.137 ( talk) 09:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
From July 2023 Melitopol and Hoboken are sister cities https://www.hobokennj.gov/news/city-of-hoboken-and-city-of-melitopol-ukraine-unite-as-sister-cities GrV ( talk) 11:27, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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I request that in the country section Russia be added as a (De facto) while Ukraine is put as (De jure) LegendaryChristopher ( talk) 01:18, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Ideally the audio pronunciation for Russian (and maybe even Greek) could also be added, but the only audio file available on Commons is the Ukrainian one. Thank you. 70.181.1.68 ( talk) 16:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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A. Demidov ( talk) 11:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
There are just a few areas that I think remain unclear either from lack of info or from ambiguity in the wording, though there may be a little awkward wording left. I'm posting here to make sure my changes didn't change the meaning and to bring up a couple issues I think need to be addressed:
The main thing I think the article still needs is references after factual statements. And of course more info would also be great! Many thanks to Demidov2007 for expanding the article! delldot talk 08:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I can answer all of the questions of Dellbot.
I re-edited the article:
I don't know if I should replace "There is a well-developed, internationally important engine-constructing industry." by "There is a well-developed, internationally important engineering industry."
A. Demidov ( talk) 11:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I added a new sub section Melitopol in World War II. As for the rest, I didn't touch it today, but I am going to replace engine-constructing by engeneering, because one enterprise of Melitopol produces engines for vehicles, another designs and produces compressors... different compressors, which are exported to different enterprises of the world. I know something about it, because being in college, I had a scientific work relating to it. However, I will save the word engine-constructing until I mention the enterprise in the article... Or it may be done now?
About template... I don't even know how to name my mistake. I actually meant tag. What tag? Well, I don't know. I update the article every day, this contradicts the conditions of the League (of copy-editors). Nobody of CEs will copyedit the article, which is tagged with the {{copyedit}} tag and re-edited every single day. Is there another tag?
As for the cherry, I didn't understand what you meant, to be honest. To what exactly section?
A. Demidov ( talk) 18:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I replaced "not all of the enterprises were renamed" by "no one of the enterprises was renamed", since that was what I meant by "all of the enterprises were not renamed". I don't touch the rest of the article and edits by Delldot until I translate the major part.
By the way, thanks for the new edit, Delldot! Sure, I would notice "began increase" and add "to" but it would take a lot of attention and time. As for "Nazi Germany", I just didn't know if it needed the definite article or not.
Some mistakes are not corrected, but I should translate more text today, and also from Ukrainian Wikipedia. Generally, it contains much less data than the Russian version does, but since Melitopol is a Ukrainian city, the article of uk:Мелітополь doesn't lack info. Actually, I'd add it anyway, but this would take much time; all I have to do by now is to translate something from Ukrainian into English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demidov2007 ( talk • contribs) 08:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Somebody's edited the article and misunderstood the sense of the sentence "officials stated that it was necessary to disarm the depots and that the only measure available to do so was to carry out controlled explosions on a regular basis", this did not cause the very first fire. Please, do not move anything like "Reasons for the explosions vary: " to such meaningful sentences.
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Are we sure Melitopol is under Russia's control? Ukraine denies it and even the UK have cast doubt on it-- Karma1998 ( talk) 13:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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WHAT: Remove the line stating that the city is in Russian control.
WHY: This is in dispute, and the only source making this claim is Russia's defense ministry.
ALTERNATIVE SOURCE: The articled linked below quotes British armed forces minister, James Heappey, disputing the announcement by Russia's defense ministry: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk-believes-russians-have-not-taken-melitopol-minister-heappey-says-2022-02-26/ Rcixrp ( talk) 04:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Galina Danilchenko was appointed mayor by Russian military. But the Melitopol City Council had declared that "The occupying troops of the Russian Federation are trying to illegally create an occupation administration of the city of Melitopol. [1] The City Council appealed to the Prosecutor General of Ukraine Iryna Venediktova to launch a pre-trial investigation into Danilchenko and her party Opposition Bloc for treason. [1] According to Lovemankind83 " Danilchenko is "de-facto" mayor because she has the support of the souvereign in melitopol: The Russsian army". How can Danilchenko be "de-facto" mayor when "her own" city council states she is a traitor? Besides we do not know if any civil servant takes/executes her order. You can only be be "de-facto" mayor if you have any real power; "Russia says you are mayor, so you are mayor" is simply a faulty argument. It would be best to state that currently she is the Russian installed mayor. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please handle the disambiguation page Melitopol (disambiguation)
Please add a hatnote
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-- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 04:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
The director has been liberated, curator perished. Two different women. Xx236 ( talk) 09:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/mayor-up-to-60-000-people-remain-in-russian-occupied-melitopol-or-one-third-of-pre-invasion-population Xx236 ( talk) 06:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
From the lead "As of January 2022 Melitopol's population was approximately 148,851". The phrase suggests that the city has still many inhabitants. should be removed from the lead. Xx236 ( talk) 07:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
The first sentence states the city is in the “south-west” of Ukraine. I’m not an expert but when I look at the map it sure looks like it is in the southEAST of Ukraine. Thoughts? Sherseydc ( talk) 14:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
There is (was) no "Russia-affiliated" police chief. Oleksandr Mishchenko was a defector. A traitor, who served a fascist dictatorship. Similarly, Quisling was not a German-affiliated Norwegian politician, but a Norwegian traitor, a Nazi collaborator. 188.143.53.137 ( talk) 09:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
From July 2023 Melitopol and Hoboken are sister cities https://www.hobokennj.gov/news/city-of-hoboken-and-city-of-melitopol-ukraine-unite-as-sister-cities GrV ( talk) 11:27, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
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I request that in the country section Russia be added as a (De facto) while Ukraine is put as (De jure) LegendaryChristopher ( talk) 01:18, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Change the beginning of the article from:
'''Melitopol''' ({{lang-uk|Меліто́поль}}; {{IPA-uk|mel⁽ʲ⁾iˈtɔpolʲ|IPA}}; {{lang-ru|Мелитополь}}; based on {{lang-el|Μελιτόπολις}}, {{literal translation|honey city}})
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'''Melitopol''' ({{lang-uk|Меліто́поль}}; {{IPA-uk|mel⁽ʲ⁾iˈtɔpolʲ|IPA|audio=Uk-Мелітополь.ogg}}; {{lang-ru|Мелитополь}}; based on {{lang-el|Μελιτόπολις}}, {{literal translation|honey city}})
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Ideally the audio pronunciation for Russian (and maybe even Greek) could also be added, but the only audio file available on Commons is the Ukrainian one. Thank you. 70.181.1.68 ( talk) 16:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)