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Kkoluch1, I see from your contribution list that you are either a new editor, or have created a new editor to work on Mary Beal. Excellent well done, the article does need some work on it, but you cannot add a sentence like Mary Beale was most likely taught how to paint when she was living in [[London]] by [[Robert Walker (painter)|Robert Walker]] as this is an opinion not a referenced fact. You will also notice a few {citation needed} added, because the fact / statement will need a reference, this is, after all, an encyclopedia. When I can return I will assist in adding this new information where referenced and not a thought or opinion. Thanks Edmund Patrick confer 06:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC) reply

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Illegible image deleted

I am removing this image because it is illegible due to the contrast issue. I have asked at Commons if it is correctable and if so, I will restore it. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 21:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

See Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop#Memorial to Mary Beale. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you for that intervention. Now we have the question: which text does the image illustrate? We already have a memorial picture (rather better than this one, IMO). Do we really need another? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 18:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If there is no text noting the existence of the memorial, then some should be added. The alternative image is too cluttered. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I have to admit that the retouched version is considerably clearer so I have to agree with Andy's swap, even though I like the candlelit more. "To illustrate, not to decorate" applies. Yes, the article does mention it: Her tomb was destroyed by enemy bombs during the Second World War. A memorial to her lies within the church. (How did the article ever end up with two images of the same memorial, even if one was so illegible as not to be obviously the same scene?) -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 20:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hunting?

Has anyone got

  • Hunting, Penelope (2019). My dearest heart : the artist Mary Beale (1633-1699). Bendor Grosvenor. London: Unicorn. ISBN  978-1-912690-08-4. OCLC  1057291032.

It is cited about five times but without page numbers. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 09:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

"The Excellent Mrs Mary Beale"?

At present, the article says

On 18 October 1654 Charles and Mary's first son, Bartholomew, was buried. Little else is known about their first son. Their second son was baptised on 14 February 1655/6 and also named Bartholomew.

The first two sentences are uncited but it seems incredible that an editor would invent it. Nevertheless, the ODNB article says she had just two children. The last sentence is supported by Walshe & Jefree's ""The Excellent Mrs Mary Beale" exhibition catalogue. Does anyone have a copy or access to one? Does it support the mysterious first child? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 00:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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additional material added by Kkoluch1 Suggestion

Kkoluch1, I see from your contribution list that you are either a new editor, or have created a new editor to work on Mary Beal. Excellent well done, the article does need some work on it, but you cannot add a sentence like Mary Beale was most likely taught how to paint when she was living in [[London]] by [[Robert Walker (painter)|Robert Walker]] as this is an opinion not a referenced fact. You will also notice a few {citation needed} added, because the fact / statement will need a reference, this is, after all, an encyclopedia. When I can return I will assist in adding this new information where referenced and not a thought or opinion. Thanks Edmund Patrick confer 06:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC) reply

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2021 and 15 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Moldgirl.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:49, 18 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Illegible image deleted

I am removing this image because it is illegible due to the contrast issue. I have asked at Commons if it is correctable and if so, I will restore it. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 21:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

See Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop#Memorial to Mary Beale. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you for that intervention. Now we have the question: which text does the image illustrate? We already have a memorial picture (rather better than this one, IMO). Do we really need another? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 18:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If there is no text noting the existence of the memorial, then some should be added. The alternative image is too cluttered. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I have to admit that the retouched version is considerably clearer so I have to agree with Andy's swap, even though I like the candlelit more. "To illustrate, not to decorate" applies. Yes, the article does mention it: Her tomb was destroyed by enemy bombs during the Second World War. A memorial to her lies within the church. (How did the article ever end up with two images of the same memorial, even if one was so illegible as not to be obviously the same scene?) -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 20:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Hunting?

Has anyone got

  • Hunting, Penelope (2019). My dearest heart : the artist Mary Beale (1633-1699). Bendor Grosvenor. London: Unicorn. ISBN  978-1-912690-08-4. OCLC  1057291032.

It is cited about five times but without page numbers. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 09:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

"The Excellent Mrs Mary Beale"?

At present, the article says

On 18 October 1654 Charles and Mary's first son, Bartholomew, was buried. Little else is known about their first son. Their second son was baptised on 14 February 1655/6 and also named Bartholomew.

The first two sentences are uncited but it seems incredible that an editor would invent it. Nevertheless, the ODNB article says she had just two children. The last sentence is supported by Walshe & Jefree's ""The Excellent Mrs Mary Beale" exhibition catalogue. Does anyone have a copy or access to one? Does it support the mysterious first child? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 00:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC) reply


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