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Vecchio should be a lot older than 14 at the time of the massacre. Someone should check on that.
Living near her at the time I can say 14 would be about right (though I thought she had just turned 15 before she ran away). My teacher said that she was fifteen, and a high school run-away at the time. She was living around campus with some friends. She looks about 12 to me. -- 86.29.247.152 05:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Is it just me or does everyone around here look nonchalant in the picture? They seem like its just another day and no one is upset that a body is laying there following a shooting. Why is that? BartonBelle 11:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC) What relationship did she have to the victim? BartonBelle 11:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
She looks about 15 to me :-/.-- 86.29.244.95 ( talk) 20:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I question the encyclopedic value of including information such as the sentence that as a teenager, the subject "continued her delinquency, however, and was later arrested on charges of theft and prostitution[1]." I previously had deleted this sentence on the ground that it was then unsourced negative information in the biography of a living person (see generally, WP:LIVING) plus it was only of the most marginal relevance even if true. This was reverted and a source has now been added, but I still do not see how this information is relevant to this article given the limited basis for notability of this individual. The subject of this article is currently living a private life and, while her presence at the horrific events described and depiction in an iconic photograph make her a reasonable subject for an article, there is no reason that she should be burdened by having her teenage indiscretions broadcast on a site like this one. Comments please. Newyorkbrad 21:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
In this story and the article about the photographer, John Filo, the world famous photo of Mary Vecchio is nowhere to be seen.
Detailed descriptions of these two people are in Wikipedia only because of that photograph.
Also, there might be some people who never saw the picture. Some people may have forgotten about it. Or, being too young, they don't know about the photograph's signifigance, it's historical importance.
The articles on Vecchio and Filo tell us that the original picture had a section removed. That was supposedly because it was considered distracting to the photo's emotional impact. Readers of those stories should see the original photo and the retouched one to decide for themselves if the alteration should have been made.
Seeing at least the famous slightly changed picture could help readers be aware of how the strife over Vietnam was tearing the country apart. TomRoch17 ( talk) 03:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I am a few months younger than Vecchio and remember the day. I was angry of course fora many years.
Much later I recall watching a made for TV movie based on the events of that day. It's now many years since I saw movie, but one thing that stays with me even today is a court room demonstration made by the defense attorney in the movie in which he threw a rolled up piece of paper at a witness to demonstrate that the National Guard could very well have been fearful of the demonstrators - fearful enough to have used their weapons. The actual protestors threw rocks iirc.
The parallels with recent demonstrations are undeniable. Overreaction by both demonstrators and authorities are becoming grotesque. We need to chill as my kids say. 67.82.179.221 ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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Vecchio should be a lot older than 14 at the time of the massacre. Someone should check on that.
Living near her at the time I can say 14 would be about right (though I thought she had just turned 15 before she ran away). My teacher said that she was fifteen, and a high school run-away at the time. She was living around campus with some friends. She looks about 12 to me. -- 86.29.247.152 05:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC) Is it just me or does everyone around here look nonchalant in the picture? They seem like its just another day and no one is upset that a body is laying there following a shooting. Why is that? BartonBelle 11:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC) What relationship did she have to the victim? BartonBelle 11:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
She looks about 15 to me :-/.-- 86.29.244.95 ( talk) 20:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I question the encyclopedic value of including information such as the sentence that as a teenager, the subject "continued her delinquency, however, and was later arrested on charges of theft and prostitution[1]." I previously had deleted this sentence on the ground that it was then unsourced negative information in the biography of a living person (see generally, WP:LIVING) plus it was only of the most marginal relevance even if true. This was reverted and a source has now been added, but I still do not see how this information is relevant to this article given the limited basis for notability of this individual. The subject of this article is currently living a private life and, while her presence at the horrific events described and depiction in an iconic photograph make her a reasonable subject for an article, there is no reason that she should be burdened by having her teenage indiscretions broadcast on a site like this one. Comments please. Newyorkbrad 21:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
In this story and the article about the photographer, John Filo, the world famous photo of Mary Vecchio is nowhere to be seen.
Detailed descriptions of these two people are in Wikipedia only because of that photograph.
Also, there might be some people who never saw the picture. Some people may have forgotten about it. Or, being too young, they don't know about the photograph's signifigance, it's historical importance.
The articles on Vecchio and Filo tell us that the original picture had a section removed. That was supposedly because it was considered distracting to the photo's emotional impact. Readers of those stories should see the original photo and the retouched one to decide for themselves if the alteration should have been made.
Seeing at least the famous slightly changed picture could help readers be aware of how the strife over Vietnam was tearing the country apart. TomRoch17 ( talk) 03:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I am a few months younger than Vecchio and remember the day. I was angry of course fora many years.
Much later I recall watching a made for TV movie based on the events of that day. It's now many years since I saw movie, but one thing that stays with me even today is a court room demonstration made by the defense attorney in the movie in which he threw a rolled up piece of paper at a witness to demonstrate that the National Guard could very well have been fearful of the demonstrators - fearful enough to have used their weapons. The actual protestors threw rocks iirc.
The parallels with recent demonstrations are undeniable. Overreaction by both demonstrators and authorities are becoming grotesque. We need to chill as my kids say. 67.82.179.221 ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)