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Jimmythegoff has inserted a claim that Mr Steyn is "conspiracy theorist and musical theatre enthusiast", a cite with the quote "who the bad guys are" (apparently in reference to something about Russians and/or Ukrainians), an extra mention of Broadway Babies Say Goodnight, a long increase of the bit about his behaviour during his failed television show (source = dailybeast.com), some insults by Dan Kennedy and Charlie Pierce quoted in the Boston Phoenix. The words "conspiracy theorist" were later deleted.) I believe all of the edit should be undone as undue, but now there have been subsequent edits so I'm not sure other editors agree. So I'm asking first: is there consensus for any of Jimmythegoff's additions? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 17:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Thismess on October 25 added "Steyn has been on the Advisory Board of the International Free Press Society, a key component of the international counter-jihad network." I reverted. Thismess on October 26 added "Steyn has referenced Bat Ye'or's Eurabia theory and has been on the board of advisors of the International Free Press Society, both key components of the international counter-jihad network." (and later changed "network" to "movement"). Apparently Thismess doesn't think it's appropriate to discuss contested additions on the talk page, so I will: (a) at least one of the cites looks like a biased opinion and perhaps they all are (b) whether they think IFPS is counter-jihad is about IFPS not Mark Steyn (c) saying somebody has "referenced" Bat Ye'or is saying almost nothing -- by putting it in the article Thismess has also "referenced" Bat Ye'or and so have I by mentioning this, I hope that illustrates how trivial the implications of the word are. Who supports/opposes Thismess's addition? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 16:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Mr Steyn is 64 - not 63 (his birthday was on the 8th of December). I have tried clicking on "edit" - but the out-of-date age does not seem to appear on the screen in a way I can change it. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:710D:2A6E:4012:ABE8 ( talk) 10:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
43arcsec added a section "A Disgrace to the profession" via 4 edits, the first one had edit summary = "With the international attention being engendered by the defamation suit trial, it was important to add to the book list the book that is the center of the suit." I reverted. Never mind that I don't believe this book is a central thing in the trial. One problem is that its source is Mr Steyn (book and testimony) which would be okay if it was clear why it's important e.g. someone noticed it, but that's lacking so far. Another problem is that the section ended with "On August 17, 2011 Steyn discussed the book ..." -- but the book was published in 2015. I'm not against giving the book more publicity, I'm only thinking this doesn't look appropriate in this form at this time, and if others feel it should be re-inserted, fine. Do they? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 15:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Mann's work purporting a dramatic recent rise in global temperaturesand
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Jimmythegoff has inserted a claim that Mr Steyn is "conspiracy theorist and musical theatre enthusiast", a cite with the quote "who the bad guys are" (apparently in reference to something about Russians and/or Ukrainians), an extra mention of Broadway Babies Say Goodnight, a long increase of the bit about his behaviour during his failed television show (source = dailybeast.com), some insults by Dan Kennedy and Charlie Pierce quoted in the Boston Phoenix. The words "conspiracy theorist" were later deleted.) I believe all of the edit should be undone as undue, but now there have been subsequent edits so I'm not sure other editors agree. So I'm asking first: is there consensus for any of Jimmythegoff's additions? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 17:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Thismess on October 25 added "Steyn has been on the Advisory Board of the International Free Press Society, a key component of the international counter-jihad network." I reverted. Thismess on October 26 added "Steyn has referenced Bat Ye'or's Eurabia theory and has been on the board of advisors of the International Free Press Society, both key components of the international counter-jihad network." (and later changed "network" to "movement"). Apparently Thismess doesn't think it's appropriate to discuss contested additions on the talk page, so I will: (a) at least one of the cites looks like a biased opinion and perhaps they all are (b) whether they think IFPS is counter-jihad is about IFPS not Mark Steyn (c) saying somebody has "referenced" Bat Ye'or is saying almost nothing -- by putting it in the article Thismess has also "referenced" Bat Ye'or and so have I by mentioning this, I hope that illustrates how trivial the implications of the word are. Who supports/opposes Thismess's addition? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 16:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Mr Steyn is 64 - not 63 (his birthday was on the 8th of December). I have tried clicking on "edit" - but the out-of-date age does not seem to appear on the screen in a way I can change it. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:710D:2A6E:4012:ABE8 ( talk) 10:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
43arcsec added a section "A Disgrace to the profession" via 4 edits, the first one had edit summary = "With the international attention being engendered by the defamation suit trial, it was important to add to the book list the book that is the center of the suit." I reverted. Never mind that I don't believe this book is a central thing in the trial. One problem is that its source is Mr Steyn (book and testimony) which would be okay if it was clear why it's important e.g. someone noticed it, but that's lacking so far. Another problem is that the section ended with "On August 17, 2011 Steyn discussed the book ..." -- but the book was published in 2015. I'm not against giving the book more publicity, I'm only thinking this doesn't look appropriate in this form at this time, and if others feel it should be re-inserted, fine. Do they? Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 15:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Mann's work purporting a dramatic recent rise in global temperaturesand
notable scientists including Nobel Prize winner....