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Year of birth, conflicting sources

Colvin's Guardian obituary says she was "born 12 January 1956", but several other sources disagree. Both biographical pieces in the Further reading section indicate 1957 as year of birth, as does the New Yorker obituary. Also, Colvin apparently was aged 43 in April 2000, aged 44 in April 2001, neither of which could be the case if she was born in January 1956. However, the Sunday Times confirms the 1956 year of birth, while (even more confusing) Yale Daily News says she was 57, indicating a DOB in 1955. -- bender235 ( talk) 20:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply

New Yorker obituary has 1956 and not 57....-- Egghead06 ( talk) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Yep, just saw them changing it now. As did Yale Daily News. It seems like 1956 is correct, on those books in the further reading section were wrong. -- bender235 ( talk) 12:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
The Times, sister paper of Colvin's employers The Sunday Times, also gives 12 January 1956. Sam Blacketer ( talk) 23:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Yale Daily News (link provided) updated its article to 56, and Colvin's employer The Sunday Times is reporting '56, so I think it's solid. -- JBrown23 ( talk) 12:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

THere seems to be a problem if all of the sources here are from obituaries. besides her death i'm not sure she is notable enough to have her own article 97.91.179.137 ( talk) 11:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Those aren't just obituaries. Check the Further reading section. -- bender235 ( talk) 15:01, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Clearly her work makes her notable enough that there would be sources prior to her death. -- JBrown23 ( talk) 12:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

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Honour

after journalists Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik were assassinated in Homs, Syria this morning, brave residents defied Assad and flooded the streets to honour them. Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1zOG6_2A4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.203.193.72 ( talk) 23:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks. Added it. -- bender235 ( talk) 00:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
And if you checked the uploaders other vids you'd see the same scene of protesters on days previous, with someone on an elevation holding up various signs, and why are there are no Marie Colvin signs in the crowd? My guess it's opportunist propagandising.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 06:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Maybe those were the same people, at the same place, demonstrating like they have been for the past twelve months. -- bender235 ( talk) 10:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
I've taken it out again. For such a claim a youtube video that in no way confirms anything other than some guy somewhere stood in front of a crowd and held up signs with the journalists' names is massively shortfalling the sourcing requirements for a biography. If a reliable source states similar and wishes to claim same, then by all means quote said reliable source.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 06:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
I found an RS reporting the story and citing the video: Syrian activists pay tribute to journalists Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik killed in Homs, The Daily Telegraph. Dlv999 ( talk) 12:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
That's a much better source to represent the data, thanks.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 20:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

American?

Channel 4 news in the UK referred to her as "British" earlier. Was this a mistake of theirs? Dual nationality? -- AlexSBaldwin ( talk) 00:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Yes, she was a dual national. . [1] I'll update the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.236.245 ( talk) 18:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
That ref does not say she held British citizenship; it merely describes her as 'Britain's', but that could mean merely in the sense that she lived in the UK and worked for a British newspaper. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC) reply

References

Date format

So, which date format do we use? Currently it's a mix of dmy and mdy. It should be a consistent format, according to mos. HandsomeFella ( talk) 22:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Use dmy: it's more logical, and needs no comma. Rothorpe ( talk) 22:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
This article should either use the American format throughout or the British format throughout. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Death details

I realize this is still breaking news, but that line quoted text for the Syrian military vowing to kill all foreign journalists NEEDS to be sourced if it's going to be included. I'm wiping it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.112.118 ( talk) 04:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

"before they were exhumed and repatriated to Damascus."

Where in the sources does it say this? -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 11:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Funeral

I've added some information on the funeral of Marie Colvin, an incredibly brave human being. [1] Lifebonzza ( talk) 18:09, 24 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks for this update. -- Mirokado ( talk) 22:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Picture

here is a picture of marie http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02147/marie-colvin_2147492b.jpg someone else can put it in i dont know how — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.189.5 ( talk) 15:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC) reply

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Year of birth, conflicting sources

Colvin's Guardian obituary says she was "born 12 January 1956", but several other sources disagree. Both biographical pieces in the Further reading section indicate 1957 as year of birth, as does the New Yorker obituary. Also, Colvin apparently was aged 43 in April 2000, aged 44 in April 2001, neither of which could be the case if she was born in January 1956. However, the Sunday Times confirms the 1956 year of birth, while (even more confusing) Yale Daily News says she was 57, indicating a DOB in 1955. -- bender235 ( talk) 20:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply

New Yorker obituary has 1956 and not 57....-- Egghead06 ( talk) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Yep, just saw them changing it now. As did Yale Daily News. It seems like 1956 is correct, on those books in the further reading section were wrong. -- bender235 ( talk) 12:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
The Times, sister paper of Colvin's employers The Sunday Times, also gives 12 January 1956. Sam Blacketer ( talk) 23:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Yale Daily News (link provided) updated its article to 56, and Colvin's employer The Sunday Times is reporting '56, so I think it's solid. -- JBrown23 ( talk) 12:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

THere seems to be a problem if all of the sources here are from obituaries. besides her death i'm not sure she is notable enough to have her own article 97.91.179.137 ( talk) 11:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Those aren't just obituaries. Check the Further reading section. -- bender235 ( talk) 15:01, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Clearly her work makes her notable enough that there would be sources prior to her death. -- JBrown23 ( talk) 12:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

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Honour

after journalists Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik were assassinated in Homs, Syria this morning, brave residents defied Assad and flooded the streets to honour them. Here’s the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1zOG6_2A4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.203.193.72 ( talk) 23:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks. Added it. -- bender235 ( talk) 00:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
And if you checked the uploaders other vids you'd see the same scene of protesters on days previous, with someone on an elevation holding up various signs, and why are there are no Marie Colvin signs in the crowd? My guess it's opportunist propagandising.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 06:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Maybe those were the same people, at the same place, demonstrating like they have been for the past twelve months. -- bender235 ( talk) 10:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
I've taken it out again. For such a claim a youtube video that in no way confirms anything other than some guy somewhere stood in front of a crowd and held up signs with the journalists' names is massively shortfalling the sourcing requirements for a biography. If a reliable source states similar and wishes to claim same, then by all means quote said reliable source.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 06:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
I found an RS reporting the story and citing the video: Syrian activists pay tribute to journalists Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik killed in Homs, The Daily Telegraph. Dlv999 ( talk) 12:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply
That's a much better source to represent the data, thanks.-- 163.1.146.16 ( talk) 20:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

American?

Channel 4 news in the UK referred to her as "British" earlier. Was this a mistake of theirs? Dual nationality? -- AlexSBaldwin ( talk) 00:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Yes, she was a dual national. . [1] I'll update the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.236.245 ( talk) 18:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
That ref does not say she held British citizenship; it merely describes her as 'Britain's', but that could mean merely in the sense that she lived in the UK and worked for a British newspaper. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC) reply

References

Date format

So, which date format do we use? Currently it's a mix of dmy and mdy. It should be a consistent format, according to mos. HandsomeFella ( talk) 22:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
Use dmy: it's more logical, and needs no comma. Rothorpe ( talk) 22:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC) reply
This article should either use the American format throughout or the British format throughout. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Death details

I realize this is still breaking news, but that line quoted text for the Syrian military vowing to kill all foreign journalists NEEDS to be sourced if it's going to be included. I'm wiping it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.112.118 ( talk) 04:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC) reply

"before they were exhumed and repatriated to Damascus."

Where in the sources does it say this? -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 11:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Funeral

I've added some information on the funeral of Marie Colvin, an incredibly brave human being. [1] Lifebonzza ( talk) 18:09, 24 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks for this update. -- Mirokado ( talk) 22:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Picture

here is a picture of marie http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02147/marie-colvin_2147492b.jpg someone else can put it in i dont know how — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.189.5 ( talk) 15:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC) reply

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