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Something a bit odd in the dates on this page. The Bibliography section says "The Haunting (1992)", but the Awards section says it won the Carnegie Medal in 1982. I know it's a supernatural novel, but that's going a bit far :-) I think the Bibliography section has to be the wrong one, because my copy of The Haunting says it was first published in the UK in 1982. Not sure what that makes the real original publication date, though.
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The bibliography is very incomplete and probably misleading regarding her career as well. The US Library of Congress (which may not have all her books) lists five picture book titles for 1969, two 1970, two 1971. (about fifteen records pre-1972. having checked one i guess that most doubles represent UK and US editions)
One of the 1969 illustrators,
Helen Oxenbury for Dragon of an Ordinary Family (London: Heinemann), won the British
Kate Greenaway Medal for illustration that year, citing this book and one other.
•
LCC entry for that book; select "More like this" for return to Mahy. --
P64 (
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Is it like "ma-HIGH"? 86.182.10.94 ( talk) 16:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
The list of works is becoming unwieldy, so should be split into a List of works by Margaret Mahy article per WP:EMBED § Lists of works and timelines, but it needs sources. It's completely unreferenced at the moment. TimofKingsland ( talk) 15:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
Main|Works by Margaret Mahy}}
to {{
Main list|Works by Margaret Mahy}}
, and make a notable books list underneath, I won't be opposed to it.Quoting the cited obituary, which is paraphrased in the article:
I guess this is a simple mistake although it may be some cheesy technicality that we should not reproduce.
Ivan Southall of Australia won the 1971 Medal for Josh, first published by Angus & Robertson of Sydney, Australia. They were the first Australian author and first Australian book to be honoured.
The technical cheese might be residence v. nationality, that Mahy was outside Britain 1982/1983 while Southall lived in Britain whenever 1971/1972. It appears to me reading our Start biography that he was already quite well established as a writer, and one webpage emphasizes his 1950s/60s contribution or fame. He may have traveled while retaining an Australian publisher and editor or three. -- P64 ( talk) 00:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I just added a few external links that should provide good sources for anyone wanting to expand this page. There's a lot of content there between the external links now that could be added to this article. I was going to do a bit of this, but I have so many unfinished things at the moment, I don't know if I'll get around to it. But other good sources that could fill in other missing details that are either unused, or hardly used, include:
And obviously the many more obituaries, etc. listed at Google News (and here). I may just end up using this list myself later. TimofKingsland ( talk) 11:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
After a few emails, we have been kindly granted permission for three photos of Mahy, one of which I have put into the infobox (after some cropping, colour adjustments, and background blurring). The images are in commons:Category:Margaret Mahy, which is linked to in the external links section now too. TimofKingsland ( talk) 05:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC) [Edited by TimofKingsland ( talk) 07:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)]
Mahy won the so-called-but-not-by-us Little Nobel Prize or Nobel Prize of Children's Literature in 2006, the biennial Hans Christian Andersen Award. I added, as [ref name=ibby2006] currently #2, the entire archive of year 2006 materials at IBBY. See my green remarks above.
Mahy was the New Zealand 2004 nominee and 2002 nominee. To me that doesn't seem worth stating in the article, or not worth documenting. Perhaps there is a New Zealand Board of Books for Young People, responsible for nominations, with online coverage of biennial nominations that may be useful as a source here or elsewhere.
FWIW, if i skim correctly, NZ did not participate prior to 2002 ( "Candidates for the Hans Christian Andersen Awards 1956–2002"). That may be useful in coverage of NZ writers or NZ children's lit, not here but elsewhere, especially if one of you spots a 1956 to 2000 nomination that i missed. (I skimmed the whole list for English-language writers but the nature of the source makes that error-prone.) The linked book does somewhere say nomination is a significant expense that many smaller countries undertake only if they have a candidate likely to be strong internationally.
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Something a bit odd in the dates on this page. The Bibliography section says "The Haunting (1992)", but the Awards section says it won the Carnegie Medal in 1982. I know it's a supernatural novel, but that's going a bit far :-) I think the Bibliography section has to be the wrong one, because my copy of The Haunting says it was first published in the UK in 1982. Not sure what that makes the real original publication date, though.
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The bibliography is very incomplete and probably misleading regarding her career as well. The US Library of Congress (which may not have all her books) lists five picture book titles for 1969, two 1970, two 1971. (about fifteen records pre-1972. having checked one i guess that most doubles represent UK and US editions)
One of the 1969 illustrators,
Helen Oxenbury for Dragon of an Ordinary Family (London: Heinemann), won the British
Kate Greenaway Medal for illustration that year, citing this book and one other.
•
LCC entry for that book; select "More like this" for return to Mahy. --
P64 (
talk) 18:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it like "ma-HIGH"? 86.182.10.94 ( talk) 16:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
The list of works is becoming unwieldy, so should be split into a List of works by Margaret Mahy article per WP:EMBED § Lists of works and timelines, but it needs sources. It's completely unreferenced at the moment. TimofKingsland ( talk) 15:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
Main|Works by Margaret Mahy}}
to {{
Main list|Works by Margaret Mahy}}
, and make a notable books list underneath, I won't be opposed to it.Quoting the cited obituary, which is paraphrased in the article:
I guess this is a simple mistake although it may be some cheesy technicality that we should not reproduce.
Ivan Southall of Australia won the 1971 Medal for Josh, first published by Angus & Robertson of Sydney, Australia. They were the first Australian author and first Australian book to be honoured.
The technical cheese might be residence v. nationality, that Mahy was outside Britain 1982/1983 while Southall lived in Britain whenever 1971/1972. It appears to me reading our Start biography that he was already quite well established as a writer, and one webpage emphasizes his 1950s/60s contribution or fame. He may have traveled while retaining an Australian publisher and editor or three. -- P64 ( talk) 00:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I just added a few external links that should provide good sources for anyone wanting to expand this page. There's a lot of content there between the external links now that could be added to this article. I was going to do a bit of this, but I have so many unfinished things at the moment, I don't know if I'll get around to it. But other good sources that could fill in other missing details that are either unused, or hardly used, include:
And obviously the many more obituaries, etc. listed at Google News (and here). I may just end up using this list myself later. TimofKingsland ( talk) 11:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
After a few emails, we have been kindly granted permission for three photos of Mahy, one of which I have put into the infobox (after some cropping, colour adjustments, and background blurring). The images are in commons:Category:Margaret Mahy, which is linked to in the external links section now too. TimofKingsland ( talk) 05:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC) [Edited by TimofKingsland ( talk) 07:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)]
Mahy won the so-called-but-not-by-us Little Nobel Prize or Nobel Prize of Children's Literature in 2006, the biennial Hans Christian Andersen Award. I added, as [ref name=ibby2006] currently #2, the entire archive of year 2006 materials at IBBY. See my green remarks above.
Mahy was the New Zealand 2004 nominee and 2002 nominee. To me that doesn't seem worth stating in the article, or not worth documenting. Perhaps there is a New Zealand Board of Books for Young People, responsible for nominations, with online coverage of biennial nominations that may be useful as a source here or elsewhere.
FWIW, if i skim correctly, NZ did not participate prior to 2002 ( "Candidates for the Hans Christian Andersen Awards 1956–2002"). That may be useful in coverage of NZ writers or NZ children's lit, not here but elsewhere, especially if one of you spots a 1956 to 2000 nomination that i missed. (I skimmed the whole list for English-language writers but the nature of the source makes that error-prone.) The linked book does somewhere say nomination is a significant expense that many smaller countries undertake only if they have a candidate likely to be strong internationally.
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