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PROD discussion

This article has been marked for deletion.

Reasons for deletion: MacMinute was no big deal. In the scheme of the history of computers and the internet the granularity which describes a MacMinute is one incredibly boring history.

Reasons for keeping: It's history. Stan Flack was one of the primary early adopters of the internet as a way for people to converse and exchange information. Stan created MacCentral then moved on to create MacMinute. These forums where the buzz for in the know Macintosh users who were in love with their computers.

OK, time moves on and forums are really no longer relevant. Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn have made them irrelevant. But don't we want to keep a historical reference to what occurred?

Yes, on the one hand Wikipedia does not want to be the Encyclopedia of information all piled up around 2000 to 2011 present but that is the nature of the beast.

Personal aside happened yesterday: I was in an old Gloucester bookshop and realized the paragraph I was reading was describing the personal attributes of my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather in 1635. A huge book with a $150 price tag on it. I asked the owner if I could xerox the one page. He got irate and said it would cost me $150 to copy.

I guess the take home message from the preceding is that one can have an incredible amount of info but that one sentence is so precious to someone 400 years later. Are you asking to delete that one sentence about Stan who besides being a pioneer in the internet frontier was also a good man? MBCF ( talk) 02:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply

So just remove the PROD tag then. But bare in mind that that I don't write the policies, like WP:MEMORIAL, I just follow them as best I can. Also, you can improve the article and find independent sources (see WP:RS). HereToHelp ( talk to me) 04:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply


Although my debate seems onesided towards keeping I am undecided. I guess I'll remove PROD and do a little editing in the future to make it a more useful historical note. Maybe revisit the PROD in a year or two. MBCF ( talk) 12:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply
Now that the PROD has been removed this article can never be PRODed again. If you make a case at AfD if/when you decide it's a lost cause, it might be persuasive. In the meantime, happy editing. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 14:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply
Just removed the PROD which I thought could not be reinserted. I cleaned it up and I think it would be a mistake to remove Stan Flack from the early computer history of Apple News on Wikipedia. Maybe we will do that to Zuckerberg and Faceook when they dissapear? Both would be a mistake. :MBCF
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

PROD discussion

This article has been marked for deletion.

Reasons for deletion: MacMinute was no big deal. In the scheme of the history of computers and the internet the granularity which describes a MacMinute is one incredibly boring history.

Reasons for keeping: It's history. Stan Flack was one of the primary early adopters of the internet as a way for people to converse and exchange information. Stan created MacCentral then moved on to create MacMinute. These forums where the buzz for in the know Macintosh users who were in love with their computers.

OK, time moves on and forums are really no longer relevant. Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn have made them irrelevant. But don't we want to keep a historical reference to what occurred?

Yes, on the one hand Wikipedia does not want to be the Encyclopedia of information all piled up around 2000 to 2011 present but that is the nature of the beast.

Personal aside happened yesterday: I was in an old Gloucester bookshop and realized the paragraph I was reading was describing the personal attributes of my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather in 1635. A huge book with a $150 price tag on it. I asked the owner if I could xerox the one page. He got irate and said it would cost me $150 to copy.

I guess the take home message from the preceding is that one can have an incredible amount of info but that one sentence is so precious to someone 400 years later. Are you asking to delete that one sentence about Stan who besides being a pioneer in the internet frontier was also a good man? MBCF ( talk) 02:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply

So just remove the PROD tag then. But bare in mind that that I don't write the policies, like WP:MEMORIAL, I just follow them as best I can. Also, you can improve the article and find independent sources (see WP:RS). HereToHelp ( talk to me) 04:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply


Although my debate seems onesided towards keeping I am undecided. I guess I'll remove PROD and do a little editing in the future to make it a more useful historical note. Maybe revisit the PROD in a year or two. MBCF ( talk) 12:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply
Now that the PROD has been removed this article can never be PRODed again. If you make a case at AfD if/when you decide it's a lost cause, it might be persuasive. In the meantime, happy editing. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 14:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC) reply
Just removed the PROD which I thought could not be reinserted. I cleaned it up and I think it would be a mistake to remove Stan Flack from the early computer history of Apple News on Wikipedia. Maybe we will do that to Zuckerberg and Faceook when they dissapear? Both would be a mistake. :MBCF

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