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While J24 is signed for Minehead, it is actually 25 miles away from the motorway! Also, driving north it's faster to leave the M25 at J25, while now that the Bridgwater "northern distributor road" (=30mph bypass) has been built it must be quicker going south to leave at J23... 80.46.142.136 12:15, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Pyrotec 19:59, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Surely moving this page for disambiguation was a bad idea - M5 (Sydney) is much better known as Metroad 5 anyway. Majority of M5 motorway Google search is English M5... Erath 21:54, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
Redoubling my claim now that the Sydney motorway has been moved back to Metroad 5. Erath 12:31, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
This will provide continuity with other UK motorways. It was originally disambiguated for "M5 motorway (Sydney)", which was, always should have been, and has now been reverted to, Metroad 5.
Moved 19 Sep 2005. I still haven't altered all the links to the old location as I ran out of time this afternoon. I also felt it necessary to alter the disambiguating statement at the top of the page to the {{otheruses}} tag because there is also the M5 motorway (Northern Ireland). -- Francs 2000 15:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I have restored information that was reverted recently. I have also added a reference to confirm the information. Regan123 22:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know when the roadworks on the link between M6 south and M5 will be finished? I'm convinced that this is the cause of the M^ congestion back to J11 most evenings. My 6 minutes (in normal times) of M6 is usually taking 30+ minutes at the moment. I can't find anything on the Highways Agency website. TIA MikesPlant 12:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I have just been in to each of the service station articles for the M5 and have added a coordinates template. Having this in an article means that you can click a link (that appears on the top right corner of the page) and be taken to a number of geographic information / mapping links that allow you, for example, to view the actual location of the feature in the article in a tool such as Google Maps.
Encoding the coordinates is really easy. I searched for the service station by name at Streetmap then clicked the map until I was happy that the arrow was in the right place. Then I clicked "Convert/Measure Coordinates" link to get the OSGB grid reference and decimal latitude and longitude for the arrow on the map. Following that it is simply a case of copy/paste to enter the coords into the template.
Here is an example for Frankley Services {{coor title d|52.429095|N|2.017943|W|region:GB_source:enwiki-osgb36(SO988812)}}. So the latitude is 52.429095, the longitude is 2.017943 and the OSGB gridref is SO988812. Note that the longitude here is in the western hemisphere. Streetmap encodes this with a minus sign. Please omit the minus sign when copy/pasting the coords across.
IMHO adding coords to features, already established Wikipedia practice, adds a nice usability touch to the service stations on this motorway. It could (should?) be extended to service stations on other motorways and possibly to other features like interchanges (if not already applied e.g. Almondsbury Interchange). It could even be taken further by providing coords for each junction - but I'm not going to do that! -- Cheesy Mike 15:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I changed all the coord templates and added coords for the Avonmouth Bridge. That's enough for today!. b.t.w. While on the subject, does using the coord template make an object show up in Google Earth? I have noticed as I browse google earth that certain wikipedia icons and article links appear, but I have no idea how this occurs. -- Cheesy Mike 17:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
The listbox of junctions seems to be wrong. According to it, you drive South on the M5 near Bristol, passing Jn 17 [Bristol (West) A4018 & Severn Beach B4055]. You then (apparently) get to Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] before Jn 18a [No exit]. This seems to fit with what one actually experiences driving it.
However, going North, this is not representative. You pass the exit for Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] then shortly after that is the slip road for Jn 18a [SOUTH WALES, Cardiff, Newport M49]. Given there is no southbound exit at Jn 18a, but that the article is currently out of sync with the reality driving North (see [1]) would it not make sense to therefore swap the order of 18 and 18a?
Answers on a postcard please... -- Peeky44 20:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Pyrotec, you have probably worked this out by now, but if you're going to advise people to look at an atlas, please carefully do so yourself. Firstly, I do (vaguely) know the history of the M4 Severn Bridges. Secondly, some information for you, available from any map of the area:
-- Peeky44 ( talk) 12:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised and disappointed to see the coordinates removed from this article with an edit sumamry of "remove travel guide info per WP:NOT", since coordinates are not a "travel guide" and consensus on WP:NOT is that coordinates are acceptable content. I trust that they will now be restored. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 22:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why this page sits where it does? Other countries have enormously longer and more important M5 motorways, e.g., M5 motorway (Russia). I believe M5 motorway should be reserved for a disambiguation page. -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I feel the current construction history is not in depth enough, as it stands it implies that most of the extensions South of J8 opened in one go. Jenuk1985 ( talk) 02:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I have made a number of changes to the Exit list layout. In particular
Unless there is anything patently wrong with the above, may I respectfully request that these changes be discussed before anything is reverted. Once there is consensus, I will retrofit this to all other articles to which I have added driver location sign information. Martinvl ( talk) 20:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
This article should be moved back. GoodDay ( talk) 21:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Why do we now have two distances to each junction. Surely the best solution is to measure the dustance to underneath the junction if we do have to have distances to a spuriously accurate 100m. Nevertheless, UK road distances are always measured in miles not km. Why do we have the culturally irrelevant km? Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
The distances should definitely be in both. Despite the fact Driver Location Signs are in metric, the country still uses miles for everyday use. Use the km if you must, but please have miles as well. Lenzar ( talk) 19:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Consensus was reached not so long about that distances in the UK exit lists should be in both miles and km (miles first), its just that we haven't got round to converting them yet. Any volunteers? Jeni ( talk) 22:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I see no movement on this. Is the plan still to have miles listed in addition to km? Lenzar ( talk) 11:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The list of primary destinations in the infobox is ridiculously long - it seems to include every town and city in the midlands and south west. I suggest it should be cut down. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 09:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Using the principle of WP:BOLD I have reverted the additions. Let's have a discussion to reach consensus on what the destinations should be before overloading the infobox. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 09:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I invite Imzadi1979 to show me what part of WP:RJL is being "violated" by the inclusion of coordinates for junctions in this article, and for Rschen to specify where in RJL additional columns for coords are not allowed. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The regional destinations are sourced as they are, leave them as is unless you can source them differently with a reliable source. Jeni ( talk) 17:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Traffic presumably also heads north-east. Such expressions need to be tightened to be encyclopaedic. Roads don't move but traffic does. A road extends between places, usually with traffic in both directions. Language needs to be found to reflect that reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 ( talk) 08:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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While J24 is signed for Minehead, it is actually 25 miles away from the motorway! Also, driving north it's faster to leave the M25 at J25, while now that the Bridgwater "northern distributor road" (=30mph bypass) has been built it must be quicker going south to leave at J23... 80.46.142.136 12:15, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Pyrotec 19:59, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Surely moving this page for disambiguation was a bad idea - M5 (Sydney) is much better known as Metroad 5 anyway. Majority of M5 motorway Google search is English M5... Erath 21:54, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
Redoubling my claim now that the Sydney motorway has been moved back to Metroad 5. Erath 12:31, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
This will provide continuity with other UK motorways. It was originally disambiguated for "M5 motorway (Sydney)", which was, always should have been, and has now been reverted to, Metroad 5.
Moved 19 Sep 2005. I still haven't altered all the links to the old location as I ran out of time this afternoon. I also felt it necessary to alter the disambiguating statement at the top of the page to the {{otheruses}} tag because there is also the M5 motorway (Northern Ireland). -- Francs 2000 15:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I have restored information that was reverted recently. I have also added a reference to confirm the information. Regan123 22:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know when the roadworks on the link between M6 south and M5 will be finished? I'm convinced that this is the cause of the M^ congestion back to J11 most evenings. My 6 minutes (in normal times) of M6 is usually taking 30+ minutes at the moment. I can't find anything on the Highways Agency website. TIA MikesPlant 12:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I have just been in to each of the service station articles for the M5 and have added a coordinates template. Having this in an article means that you can click a link (that appears on the top right corner of the page) and be taken to a number of geographic information / mapping links that allow you, for example, to view the actual location of the feature in the article in a tool such as Google Maps.
Encoding the coordinates is really easy. I searched for the service station by name at Streetmap then clicked the map until I was happy that the arrow was in the right place. Then I clicked "Convert/Measure Coordinates" link to get the OSGB grid reference and decimal latitude and longitude for the arrow on the map. Following that it is simply a case of copy/paste to enter the coords into the template.
Here is an example for Frankley Services {{coor title d|52.429095|N|2.017943|W|region:GB_source:enwiki-osgb36(SO988812)}}. So the latitude is 52.429095, the longitude is 2.017943 and the OSGB gridref is SO988812. Note that the longitude here is in the western hemisphere. Streetmap encodes this with a minus sign. Please omit the minus sign when copy/pasting the coords across.
IMHO adding coords to features, already established Wikipedia practice, adds a nice usability touch to the service stations on this motorway. It could (should?) be extended to service stations on other motorways and possibly to other features like interchanges (if not already applied e.g. Almondsbury Interchange). It could even be taken further by providing coords for each junction - but I'm not going to do that! -- Cheesy Mike 15:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I changed all the coord templates and added coords for the Avonmouth Bridge. That's enough for today!. b.t.w. While on the subject, does using the coord template make an object show up in Google Earth? I have noticed as I browse google earth that certain wikipedia icons and article links appear, but I have no idea how this occurs. -- Cheesy Mike 17:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
The listbox of junctions seems to be wrong. According to it, you drive South on the M5 near Bristol, passing Jn 17 [Bristol (West) A4018 & Severn Beach B4055]. You then (apparently) get to Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] before Jn 18a [No exit]. This seems to fit with what one actually experiences driving it.
However, going North, this is not representative. You pass the exit for Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] then shortly after that is the slip road for Jn 18a [SOUTH WALES, Cardiff, Newport M49]. Given there is no southbound exit at Jn 18a, but that the article is currently out of sync with the reality driving North (see [1]) would it not make sense to therefore swap the order of 18 and 18a?
Answers on a postcard please... -- Peeky44 20:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Pyrotec, you have probably worked this out by now, but if you're going to advise people to look at an atlas, please carefully do so yourself. Firstly, I do (vaguely) know the history of the M4 Severn Bridges. Secondly, some information for you, available from any map of the area:
-- Peeky44 ( talk) 12:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I was surprised and disappointed to see the coordinates removed from this article with an edit sumamry of "remove travel guide info per WP:NOT", since coordinates are not a "travel guide" and consensus on WP:NOT is that coordinates are acceptable content. I trust that they will now be restored. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 22:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason why this page sits where it does? Other countries have enormously longer and more important M5 motorways, e.g., M5 motorway (Russia). I believe M5 motorway should be reserved for a disambiguation page. -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I feel the current construction history is not in depth enough, as it stands it implies that most of the extensions South of J8 opened in one go. Jenuk1985 ( talk) 02:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I have made a number of changes to the Exit list layout. In particular
Unless there is anything patently wrong with the above, may I respectfully request that these changes be discussed before anything is reverted. Once there is consensus, I will retrofit this to all other articles to which I have added driver location sign information. Martinvl ( talk) 20:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
This article should be moved back. GoodDay ( talk) 21:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Why do we now have two distances to each junction. Surely the best solution is to measure the dustance to underneath the junction if we do have to have distances to a spuriously accurate 100m. Nevertheless, UK road distances are always measured in miles not km. Why do we have the culturally irrelevant km? Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
The distances should definitely be in both. Despite the fact Driver Location Signs are in metric, the country still uses miles for everyday use. Use the km if you must, but please have miles as well. Lenzar ( talk) 19:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Consensus was reached not so long about that distances in the UK exit lists should be in both miles and km (miles first), its just that we haven't got round to converting them yet. Any volunteers? Jeni ( talk) 22:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
I see no movement on this. Is the plan still to have miles listed in addition to km? Lenzar ( talk) 11:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The list of primary destinations in the infobox is ridiculously long - it seems to include every town and city in the midlands and south west. I suggest it should be cut down. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 09:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Using the principle of WP:BOLD I have reverted the additions. Let's have a discussion to reach consensus on what the destinations should be before overloading the infobox. -- Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator ( Talk) 09:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I invite Imzadi1979 to show me what part of WP:RJL is being "violated" by the inclusion of coordinates for junctions in this article, and for Rschen to specify where in RJL additional columns for coords are not allowed. -- Tagishsimon (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The regional destinations are sourced as they are, leave them as is unless you can source them differently with a reliable source. Jeni ( talk) 17:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Traffic presumably also heads north-east. Such expressions need to be tightened to be encyclopaedic. Roads don't move but traffic does. A road extends between places, usually with traffic in both directions. Language needs to be found to reflect that reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 ( talk) 08:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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