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Aside from a few exterior shots, none of the Carry On films were shot in London - they were all made at Pinewood. I'm not sure what they're doing here - they were about as far removed from the "Swinging London" culture as it's possible to be. 78.149.172.10 ( talk) 15:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I've removed a (very) large amount of material from this article, for various reasons. Rather than try to cram the explanation into an edit summary, I'm giving a breakdown here to make it easier for someone to restore it should they want to make the attempt. Much of what I've left should probably be deleted as well as inappropriate; I've only removed the fabrications and grossly irrelevant comments.
On a more general note, I strongly question the appropriateness of this article. The key turning points in the history of 20th century London (1933, 1945, 1965, 1986) all fall in the middle of decades, making breakdown-by-decade articles peculiarly pointless; 1961 London had very little in common with 1969 London.
The '60s was the decade when the Labour Party came to power under Harold Wilson from 1964 to 1970, 20 years after Clement Attlee.
Peggy Maffits' Greenwich fashion
Vidal Sasoon's style also became iconic and the distinctive style of East London at the time.
Leslie Hornby became known for wearing miniskirts, and walked the streets of London like a "big-eyed cockney Dolly bird" exposing as much of her legs and other features as permitted. [1] [2]
Twiggy, the top fashion model was introduced to the fashion scene by David Bailey, a leading photographer in the late '60s
It was the era when hippie culture, "Flower Power" and the slogan "Make Love not War" [3] was fashionable.
As a result of baby boom in the 1950s, London became the city with a population of 40% under the young category by the mid-1960s, citation needed a situation which happened only after the Roman Empire.
1960 was a year of much commotion in the city.
A group of anti-apartheid protesters also demonstrated at the Oval Cricket Ground.
Anti- Semitic protests also took place. [4]
After the London docks were closed in 1960, there was a dramatic change in the environmental conditions along the Thames River in London. The embankments underwent rehabilitation with the result walking along the Vauxhall Bridge to Butler's Wharf and further on was a pleasurable experience. Southern side of the river became a leisure spot and colorful boats carrying tourists started operating, and even the boat services to Canary island on the historic Thames became a reality. [5]
The titillating book, " Lady Chatterley’s Lover" by D.H.Lawrence, was in the news when the Penguin Publishers were taken to court for its publication as falling under the Obscene Publications Act. A jury of the Old Bailey Court, hearing the petition from 20 October to 2 November 1960, ruled that the book narrating the love affair between the Lady of the Manner and the Game Keeper and the use of four lettered words, was not obscene. [6]
In 1961, immigration peaked with over 100,000 West Indians living in London.
[Black immigration] ushered the creation of slums (due to shortage of accommodation on account of WWII bombed structures) and emergence of social problems. [1]
The first issue of the anarchist monthly magazine, Anarchy was published in London in March 1961; the magazine run until December 1970. [7] The Carl Rosa Opera Company stopped performing after its Don Giovanni performance on 17 September 1960, due to lack of funds, only to reopen in 1997. [8]
The 1961 London Trophy was a motor race on 22 May 1961 at Crystal Palace Circuit, run to Formula One standards.
Andi Lothian, a former Scottish music promoter, claimed that he coined the term Beatlemania after the Caird Hall Beatles concert that took place as part of The Beatles' Mini-Tour of Scotland, on 7 October 1963. [9]
and young fans resorted to rioting as a celebration when the Beatles got the MBE at the Buckingham Palace. [10]
John Profumo, the British Secretary of State for War was involved in a sex scandal with Christine Keeler who was a call girl. This affair took place in 1961–62. She was reported dallying with Profumo in the swimming pool at the Clivedon Estate of Lord Aston. The torrid affair involved Mandy Rice-Davies also, with Dr. David Ward as the organiser of the escapades at the estate where Russian spy Eugene Ivanov was also one of the many clients of the two call girls. In the furore, it was alleged that the country’s security was compromised. Profumo was forced to resign and the affair termed Profumo Affair damaged the reputation of Prime Minister Harold Macmillan's government. [10]
The Gaelic football club, Tír Chonaill Gaels, based in Greenford, was formed in London in 1962, and is one of the most successful in the London Gaelic Scene.
During 1964, London was the scene of a heady mix of Art Nouveau and rock and roll music. Victoria period clothing became popular with the boutique "Granie Takes a Trip", which relegated Woolworth's to oblivion. Music of the Beatles and other pop singers, TV and cult movies and admen made the rest of the world envy the booming culture of London with romance and love taking the front seat. [2]
Following on the foot steps of the west Indian immigrants was the adoption of West Indian styles which got infused into the London culture scene during the 1960s. Musically, the rude boy style of ska changed in music so also the dress styles underwent change over to "sta-press trousers, the Crombie overcoat, and the pork-pie hat"; initially skinheads dressed in this fashion which was later followed by punks. [11]
The Daily Herald newspaper, published in London during the period of 1912–1964, ceased publication when it transitioned to The Sun. [12]
Twiggy was given the epithet "The Face of 1966". The Chelsea Set, a "hard-partying, socially eclectic mix of largely idle 'toffs' and talented working-class movers and shakers" became well-known; Mary Quant was uncrowned queen of the group. [1]
The The Beatles, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Who, The Byrds and The Rolling Stones ruled the music roost of not only London but also the rest of the world.
Anti-immigration euphoria was orchestrated by Enoch Powell, Member of Parliament, in 1968, when the term "Rivers of Blood" was used to highlight the context, and he also called Britain "the Sick Man of Europe." His racist perorations caused him dishonor of dismissal from the Shadow Cabinet when Ted Heath was the Prime Minister. [13]
A new gallery for notable temporary exhibitions became an "event of significance in the unfolding relations between the public and modern art." [14]
Other popular models of the era included Veruschka, Peggy Moffitt
The Mini-Cooper car (launched in 1959) was used by a fleet of mini-cab taxis highlighted by advertising that covered their paintwork. [15]
The British film industry, under the new wave young film makers, got a boost when the Hollywood big names of Warner Brothers and MGM offloaded some of their film making to their units in London, and co-productions were filmed. But this only lasted till end of the '60s as there was a financial crunch when the American film makers withdrew from the London scene of joint productions.
I've only removed the most egregious examples of fabrications, misrepresentations and irrelevancies, and what remains still needs a lot of cleanup. Once the unreliable sources like this are removed, along with the cut-and-paste job from Wikipedia's existing Swinging London article, there will be virtually nothing left; if the authors of this do think the topic is salvageable, I'd strongly suggest they wipe it out and start again from a clean slate. I personally question whether it would be worth it; the 1960s weren't a particularly important period in London's history (the 1930s, 1940s and 1980s were when the radical changes took place) and I don't feel it's a topic of any priority.
As a general aside, the author(s) of this article seem way too fixated with the whole "swinging 60s" thing. You need to keep in mind that only a tiny, tiny clique of west end trendies ever took part in this and it was of no relevance to the overwhelming majority of the population; treating Cathy McGowan as representative of 1960s London is like treating Fall Out Boy as representative of modern Chicago. – iridescent 13:31, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks to Iridescent for auditing the relevance of the text to the requirements of this kind of article, and for relieving us of a considerable amount of trivial information. Tony (talk) 13:57, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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Aside from a few exterior shots, none of the Carry On films were shot in London - they were all made at Pinewood. I'm not sure what they're doing here - they were about as far removed from the "Swinging London" culture as it's possible to be. 78.149.172.10 ( talk) 15:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I've removed a (very) large amount of material from this article, for various reasons. Rather than try to cram the explanation into an edit summary, I'm giving a breakdown here to make it easier for someone to restore it should they want to make the attempt. Much of what I've left should probably be deleted as well as inappropriate; I've only removed the fabrications and grossly irrelevant comments.
On a more general note, I strongly question the appropriateness of this article. The key turning points in the history of 20th century London (1933, 1945, 1965, 1986) all fall in the middle of decades, making breakdown-by-decade articles peculiarly pointless; 1961 London had very little in common with 1969 London.
The '60s was the decade when the Labour Party came to power under Harold Wilson from 1964 to 1970, 20 years after Clement Attlee.
Peggy Maffits' Greenwich fashion
Vidal Sasoon's style also became iconic and the distinctive style of East London at the time.
Leslie Hornby became known for wearing miniskirts, and walked the streets of London like a "big-eyed cockney Dolly bird" exposing as much of her legs and other features as permitted. [1] [2]
Twiggy, the top fashion model was introduced to the fashion scene by David Bailey, a leading photographer in the late '60s
It was the era when hippie culture, "Flower Power" and the slogan "Make Love not War" [3] was fashionable.
As a result of baby boom in the 1950s, London became the city with a population of 40% under the young category by the mid-1960s, citation needed a situation which happened only after the Roman Empire.
1960 was a year of much commotion in the city.
A group of anti-apartheid protesters also demonstrated at the Oval Cricket Ground.
Anti- Semitic protests also took place. [4]
After the London docks were closed in 1960, there was a dramatic change in the environmental conditions along the Thames River in London. The embankments underwent rehabilitation with the result walking along the Vauxhall Bridge to Butler's Wharf and further on was a pleasurable experience. Southern side of the river became a leisure spot and colorful boats carrying tourists started operating, and even the boat services to Canary island on the historic Thames became a reality. [5]
The titillating book, " Lady Chatterley’s Lover" by D.H.Lawrence, was in the news when the Penguin Publishers were taken to court for its publication as falling under the Obscene Publications Act. A jury of the Old Bailey Court, hearing the petition from 20 October to 2 November 1960, ruled that the book narrating the love affair between the Lady of the Manner and the Game Keeper and the use of four lettered words, was not obscene. [6]
In 1961, immigration peaked with over 100,000 West Indians living in London.
[Black immigration] ushered the creation of slums (due to shortage of accommodation on account of WWII bombed structures) and emergence of social problems. [1]
The first issue of the anarchist monthly magazine, Anarchy was published in London in March 1961; the magazine run until December 1970. [7] The Carl Rosa Opera Company stopped performing after its Don Giovanni performance on 17 September 1960, due to lack of funds, only to reopen in 1997. [8]
The 1961 London Trophy was a motor race on 22 May 1961 at Crystal Palace Circuit, run to Formula One standards.
Andi Lothian, a former Scottish music promoter, claimed that he coined the term Beatlemania after the Caird Hall Beatles concert that took place as part of The Beatles' Mini-Tour of Scotland, on 7 October 1963. [9]
and young fans resorted to rioting as a celebration when the Beatles got the MBE at the Buckingham Palace. [10]
John Profumo, the British Secretary of State for War was involved in a sex scandal with Christine Keeler who was a call girl. This affair took place in 1961–62. She was reported dallying with Profumo in the swimming pool at the Clivedon Estate of Lord Aston. The torrid affair involved Mandy Rice-Davies also, with Dr. David Ward as the organiser of the escapades at the estate where Russian spy Eugene Ivanov was also one of the many clients of the two call girls. In the furore, it was alleged that the country’s security was compromised. Profumo was forced to resign and the affair termed Profumo Affair damaged the reputation of Prime Minister Harold Macmillan's government. [10]
The Gaelic football club, Tír Chonaill Gaels, based in Greenford, was formed in London in 1962, and is one of the most successful in the London Gaelic Scene.
During 1964, London was the scene of a heady mix of Art Nouveau and rock and roll music. Victoria period clothing became popular with the boutique "Granie Takes a Trip", which relegated Woolworth's to oblivion. Music of the Beatles and other pop singers, TV and cult movies and admen made the rest of the world envy the booming culture of London with romance and love taking the front seat. [2]
Following on the foot steps of the west Indian immigrants was the adoption of West Indian styles which got infused into the London culture scene during the 1960s. Musically, the rude boy style of ska changed in music so also the dress styles underwent change over to "sta-press trousers, the Crombie overcoat, and the pork-pie hat"; initially skinheads dressed in this fashion which was later followed by punks. [11]
The Daily Herald newspaper, published in London during the period of 1912–1964, ceased publication when it transitioned to The Sun. [12]
Twiggy was given the epithet "The Face of 1966". The Chelsea Set, a "hard-partying, socially eclectic mix of largely idle 'toffs' and talented working-class movers and shakers" became well-known; Mary Quant was uncrowned queen of the group. [1]
The The Beatles, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Who, The Byrds and The Rolling Stones ruled the music roost of not only London but also the rest of the world.
Anti-immigration euphoria was orchestrated by Enoch Powell, Member of Parliament, in 1968, when the term "Rivers of Blood" was used to highlight the context, and he also called Britain "the Sick Man of Europe." His racist perorations caused him dishonor of dismissal from the Shadow Cabinet when Ted Heath was the Prime Minister. [13]
A new gallery for notable temporary exhibitions became an "event of significance in the unfolding relations between the public and modern art." [14]
Other popular models of the era included Veruschka, Peggy Moffitt
The Mini-Cooper car (launched in 1959) was used by a fleet of mini-cab taxis highlighted by advertising that covered their paintwork. [15]
The British film industry, under the new wave young film makers, got a boost when the Hollywood big names of Warner Brothers and MGM offloaded some of their film making to their units in London, and co-productions were filmed. But this only lasted till end of the '60s as there was a financial crunch when the American film makers withdrew from the London scene of joint productions.
I've only removed the most egregious examples of fabrications, misrepresentations and irrelevancies, and what remains still needs a lot of cleanup. Once the unreliable sources like this are removed, along with the cut-and-paste job from Wikipedia's existing Swinging London article, there will be virtually nothing left; if the authors of this do think the topic is salvageable, I'd strongly suggest they wipe it out and start again from a clean slate. I personally question whether it would be worth it; the 1960s weren't a particularly important period in London's history (the 1930s, 1940s and 1980s were when the radical changes took place) and I don't feel it's a topic of any priority.
As a general aside, the author(s) of this article seem way too fixated with the whole "swinging 60s" thing. You need to keep in mind that only a tiny, tiny clique of west end trendies ever took part in this and it was of no relevance to the overwhelming majority of the population; treating Cathy McGowan as representative of 1960s London is like treating Fall Out Boy as representative of modern Chicago. – iridescent 13:31, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
References
History
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).{{
cite web}}
: Check date values in: |accessdate=
(
help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher=
(
help)
Thanks to Iridescent for auditing the relevance of the text to the requirements of this kind of article, and for relieving us of a considerable amount of trivial information. Tony (talk) 13:57, 28 October 2013 (UTC)