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The result of the move request was: NOMINATOR WITHDRAWAL. ( non-admin closure) ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 06:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Premier of Victoria → List of premiers of Victoria – To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. This article is more of a list rather than an article with the majority of the page being a table rather than prose. The page 'Premiers of Victoria' should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 02:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I would reconsider my oppose if a requested move with all the state's premier articles was made– I will withdraw this request and initiate another request encompassing all the states who's articles have the same issue. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 04:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) - 🔥 𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
– To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. The articles are lists rather than an articles with the majority of the page in each article consisting of tables rather than prose. The page's current titles should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). (Note: I have omitted a few States from the move as they contain a considerable amount of prose and a split would be more appropriate). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 07:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
information about the role, responsibilities, how one comes to hold that office, and any notable high/low lightsthat doesn't actually exist in the articles in their current form. As they stand the articles are predominately the list with a short lead. This move will allow the lists to keep their edit history and for the subsequent redirects that will be created to become prose articles (as can be seen with Prime Minister of Australia and List of prime ministers of Australia). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 14:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Postscript: Premier of Victoria was moved against the above consensus, discussion ensued at WP:RM/TR, and the article returned to its original longstanding title. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 05:12, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Does the Legend for political parties need to be there (at the top of the ' List of premiers of Victoria' section) when it states the political party in the 8th column? ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Are the Monarch and Governor columns necessary when we have Governor of Victoria and Monarch of Australia articles as well as this information in the infoboxes of most of the premiers. To me is seems like clutter. Thoughts? ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:38, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
I propose that the article be split in two: List of premiers of Victoria and Premier of Victoria. The split has been suggested in the peer review for this article by HoHo3143 and JML1148. The split will be consistent with articles Prime Minister of Australia and List of prime ministers of Australia, and will also allow for the merging of List of premiers of Victoria by time in office into the List of premiers of Victoria aritcle. ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 05:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Pinging users that may be interested: @ Totallynotarandomalt69, Steelkamp, and Axver: ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 05:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Note to closer of split discussion: If the result of the discussion is 'split', in order to best retain the contribution history of the two pages, I suggest moving this article to 'List of premiers of Victoria' as the majority of this article's history pertains to the list of premiers section. I also suggest moving User:GMH Melbourne/Premier of Victoria into this title ('Premier of Victoria') as that page has already had the prose copied over and has in its history has the contributions of all the users that helped form the prose that exists now. GMH Melbourne ( talk) 19:48, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: NOMINATOR WITHDRAWAL. ( non-admin closure) ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 06:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Premier of Victoria → List of premiers of Victoria – To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. This article is more of a list rather than an article with the majority of the page being a table rather than prose. The page 'Premiers of Victoria' should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 02:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I would reconsider my oppose if a requested move with all the state's premier articles was made– I will withdraw this request and initiate another request encompassing all the states who's articles have the same issue. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 04:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) - 🔥 𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 12:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
– To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. The articles are lists rather than an articles with the majority of the page in each article consisting of tables rather than prose. The page's current titles should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). (Note: I have omitted a few States from the move as they contain a considerable amount of prose and a split would be more appropriate). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 07:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
information about the role, responsibilities, how one comes to hold that office, and any notable high/low lightsthat doesn't actually exist in the articles in their current form. As they stand the articles are predominately the list with a short lead. This move will allow the lists to keep their edit history and for the subsequent redirects that will be created to become prose articles (as can be seen with Prime Minister of Australia and List of prime ministers of Australia). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 14:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Postscript: Premier of Victoria was moved against the above consensus, discussion ensued at WP:RM/TR, and the article returned to its original longstanding title. Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 05:12, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Does the Legend for political parties need to be there (at the top of the ' List of premiers of Victoria' section) when it states the political party in the 8th column? ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Are the Monarch and Governor columns necessary when we have Governor of Victoria and Monarch of Australia articles as well as this information in the infoboxes of most of the premiers. To me is seems like clutter. Thoughts? ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 01:38, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
I propose that the article be split in two: List of premiers of Victoria and Premier of Victoria. The split has been suggested in the peer review for this article by HoHo3143 and JML1148. The split will be consistent with articles Prime Minister of Australia and List of prime ministers of Australia, and will also allow for the merging of List of premiers of Victoria by time in office into the List of premiers of Victoria aritcle. ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 05:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Pinging users that may be interested: @ Totallynotarandomalt69, Steelkamp, and Axver: ––– GMH Melbourne ( talk) 05:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Note to closer of split discussion: If the result of the discussion is 'split', in order to best retain the contribution history of the two pages, I suggest moving this article to 'List of premiers of Victoria' as the majority of this article's history pertains to the list of premiers section. I also suggest moving User:GMH Melbourne/Premier of Victoria into this title ('Premier of Victoria') as that page has already had the prose copied over and has in its history has the contributions of all the users that helped form the prose that exists now. GMH Melbourne ( talk) 19:48, 13 January 2024 (UTC)