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Denver's highest point coordinates appear to be just outside the boundary of the City and County of Denver; i have confirmed this fault on Google Earth, Open Street Maps, and Denver's GIS service; a possible actual Denver high point is approx 33m north, 39°37′37″N 105°06′36″W / 39.626967°N 105.109877°W / 39.626967; -105.109877; this point's elevation is 5688 ft per Google Earth and 1736m (5696 ft) via query via the Open Elevation API; [1]; the Peakbagger entry referenced for this location has a map view that shows the out-of-boundary error more clearly when the default view is changed to ArcGIS or Open Streetmap (ArcGIS shows an non-orthogonal boundary that is inconsistent with other sources)

the location i suggest is on the roadway — the adjacent median and sidewalks are slightly higher; i have not field-verified this info, but a blogger has documented their efforts to visit this highest point, putting it on the adjacent sidewalk at 5680 ft, but not providing coordinates [2]

an alternative location that has been raised significantly by highway earthworks, is within the I-25 / I-225 interchange at 39°38′00″N 104°54′19″W / 39.633284°N 104.905293°W / 39.633284; -104.905293; Google Earth gives 5693 ft, yet Open Elevation API gives 1718m (5636ft) (possibly reflecting the pre-earthworks elevation)

Garbanzito ( talk) 23:13, 28 November 2018 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Open Elevation API query for a point in Denver". Open Elevation API. Retrieved 28 November 2018.
  2. ^ "Denver High Point - Rise Near NE Corner of Kipling & Belleview". ColoradoGuy.com. Retrieved 28 November 2018.
I agree that Peakbagger isn't, perhaps, the most reliable source; but I think that it is, at least, more reliable than the ColoradoGuy blogger. Your objections to the location currently in the article and speculations about a possible revision seem to me to involve an unacceptable (for Wikipedia purposes) measure of original research. I'm going to close the {{ geodata-check}} tag above so that it doesn't unnecessarily attract the attention of people who monitor Category:Talk pages requiring geodata verification, who probably can't do any more about the situation than I can. Discussion can continue here; but unless someone can come up with a reliable, published source giving a location different from the one currently specified in the article, I see no reason to change the coordinates. Deor ( talk) 19:11, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply
thanks, i understand the reason not to use the coordinates i speculated upon (which is why i didn't update the actual page); if Peakbagger is clearly referencing a point not within Denver, wouldn't it then make the most sense to simply remove that coordinate (and reference) from the table? if a reference is required to show that the point is not in Denver, would this JSON result from the FCC Enterprise Area API suffice? Garbanzito ( talk) 22:50, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply
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Coordinate error

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Denver's highest point coordinates appear to be just outside the boundary of the City and County of Denver; i have confirmed this fault on Google Earth, Open Street Maps, and Denver's GIS service; a possible actual Denver high point is approx 33m north, 39°37′37″N 105°06′36″W / 39.626967°N 105.109877°W / 39.626967; -105.109877; this point's elevation is 5688 ft per Google Earth and 1736m (5696 ft) via query via the Open Elevation API; [1]; the Peakbagger entry referenced for this location has a map view that shows the out-of-boundary error more clearly when the default view is changed to ArcGIS or Open Streetmap (ArcGIS shows an non-orthogonal boundary that is inconsistent with other sources)

the location i suggest is on the roadway — the adjacent median and sidewalks are slightly higher; i have not field-verified this info, but a blogger has documented their efforts to visit this highest point, putting it on the adjacent sidewalk at 5680 ft, but not providing coordinates [2]

an alternative location that has been raised significantly by highway earthworks, is within the I-25 / I-225 interchange at 39°38′00″N 104°54′19″W / 39.633284°N 104.905293°W / 39.633284; -104.905293; Google Earth gives 5693 ft, yet Open Elevation API gives 1718m (5636ft) (possibly reflecting the pre-earthworks elevation)

Garbanzito ( talk) 23:13, 28 November 2018 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Open Elevation API query for a point in Denver". Open Elevation API. Retrieved 28 November 2018.
  2. ^ "Denver High Point - Rise Near NE Corner of Kipling & Belleview". ColoradoGuy.com. Retrieved 28 November 2018.
I agree that Peakbagger isn't, perhaps, the most reliable source; but I think that it is, at least, more reliable than the ColoradoGuy blogger. Your objections to the location currently in the article and speculations about a possible revision seem to me to involve an unacceptable (for Wikipedia purposes) measure of original research. I'm going to close the {{ geodata-check}} tag above so that it doesn't unnecessarily attract the attention of people who monitor Category:Talk pages requiring geodata verification, who probably can't do any more about the situation than I can. Discussion can continue here; but unless someone can come up with a reliable, published source giving a location different from the one currently specified in the article, I see no reason to change the coordinates. Deor ( talk) 19:11, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply
thanks, i understand the reason not to use the coordinates i speculated upon (which is why i didn't update the actual page); if Peakbagger is clearly referencing a point not within Denver, wouldn't it then make the most sense to simply remove that coordinate (and reference) from the table? if a reference is required to show that the point is not in Denver, would this JSON result from the FCC Enterprise Area API suffice? Garbanzito ( talk) 22:50, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply

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