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If we have to have a separate British Airways destinations article (about which I am not convinced - it does not seem sensible to leave the original British Airways page to view this - the destinations were originally listed alphabetically on the BA page, which I think is much better) then at least it should state the date when these destinations are actually being served and where the information is taken from eg Summer 2005, BA timetable. Ardfern 3 July 2005 22:19 (UTC)
Some of these flags add colour to what is otherwise a dull list. However, the inclusion of state (and city!) flags is making it too unwieldy. Can we restrict it to national flags only? The alternative would be to remove the flags altogether as I am not convinced they are essential for understanding the information presented. -- John 20:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
To screen out the Bmed destinations, I used this list: http://web.archive.org/web/20011230083826/http://www.britishairways.com/inside/wrldwide/partners/franchise/docs/bmed.shtml
WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
As British Airways will begin scheduled service from LCY - JFK/EWR with a fuel stop at Shannon on west-bound flights I have added Shannon to destinations page but styled as Shannon - Shannon Airport fuel stop. Any other thoughts, changed you wish to make, etc. Please reply. Thanks. Zaps93 ( talk) 18:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Recently there have been changed regarding the name of Ukraine capital, Kiev. The change is 'supposingly' the correct spelling for Kyiv, but I visted earlier this year and it was still spelt Kiev of boarding pass, so my question is why Kyiv if it is recognised and spelt as Kiev? Zaps93 ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Kiev is latinisation of Russian way of calling the Ukrainian capital. When Ukraine gained its independence from the Soviet Union, it was proposed that in English Kyiv is used instead (being the latinisation of the Ukrainian pronunciation). It took some time, but several English speaking countries (e.g. Canada, USA and UK) officially adopted the new name. The old name is still in use though (like in your example). It becomes quite interesting when UEFA Champion League subtitles mention FC Dynamo Kyiv playing in Kiev. The situation is very similar to the Mumbai/Bombai case. You may imagine the politics surrounding this issue. Kyiv is the correct English spelling of the city. Andriy155 ( talk) 21:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
http://ukinukraine.fco.gov.uk/en/ - As has been clearly demonstrated, the official spelling of the word is in fact Kyiv. Notice how airlines also migrate to Kyiv: Wizzair (the other airline you keep on changing the name of the city for) is using Kyiv: http://wizzair.com/?language=EN Andriy155 ( talk) 21:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
BGN database shows Kyiv as BGN standard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andriy155 ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Kiev please - that's the city's name in English. The comparison with Bombay/Mumbai is not correct, because that city's name was actually changed, unlike Kiev, where there's been no change in name. Apples to oranges really. A more apt compare would be something like Milan (which is Milano in Italian, Mailand in German, and so on) or Cairo (Le Caire, Kairo, etc) - these are different ways of calling the same city. Jasepl ( talk) 07:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The 3rd general guideline of the naming conventions for geographic names currently states: "The contents (this applies to all articles using the name in question): The same name as in the title should be used consistently throughout the article." So, as long as the article on the city itself uses Kiev for its title, Kiev is the form that all other articles should use, including this one. — Besides, the name the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize (the core criterion of our naming conventions policy) is Kiev.
In any case, as MilborneOne mentions above, the naming issue itself should be discussed at Talk:Kiev/naming. If at some point discussion there leads to the article on the city being renamed to anything other than Kiev, that new name will be adopted in this article too, for consistency; but no before. - Best, Ev ( talk) 17:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
JFYI: The situation has evolved since 2009, there are now newer rules: WP:KYIV -- although Jimmy Dore still cannot spell it in his shows. 😊 -- Maxim Masiutin ( talk) 21:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I am just wondering why there are no states in the U.S.A. listed. They serve a large majority of cities all in a large variety of states and therefor I believe that states should be added to show their large network coverage in the U.S.A., like a major US airline. Your comments welcome. Regards, Zaps93 ( talk) 09:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Terminated destinations on the old list were without airports name so I made an effort to search for the airports. There is a possibility that some of them are wrong if so, contributions supported by references Will be appreciated. -- Meshoo.d ( talk) 22:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
British Airways will begin flying to Incheon International Airport from December 2, 2012 but there has been a dispute whether or not is this service a resumption or new service. 2 news articles are calling it a resumption but the airline's official press release calls it a new route. I know that the airline served Seoul in the past but they flew to Gimpo International Airport and ended service a little before Incheon became operational. 123.117.36.87 ( talk) 06:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Can these be added to the list with reference from BA World Cargo website? 182.178.63.22 ( talk) 18:56, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see the article of airports have hub of British Airways — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minhtuanvn 1995 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/20/ba-lcygrx-jul13/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minhtuanvn 1995 ( talk • contribs) 11:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
BA will fly to Las Palmas Gran Canaria and Granada http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/20/ba-lcygrx-jul13/ http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/03/ba-lhrlpa-w13/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.179.54.234 ( talk) 11:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2013/09/03/british-airways-dreamliner-austin-london-heahtrow/2757385/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.179.18.225 ( talk) 12:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi all, I just wanted to propose that the terminated destinations on this article either be removed, or put into a separate section with a valid reference to support its inclusion. What are your views? st170e talk 18:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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Distance is particularly useful as it provides context for understanding how the airline's network has evolved and allows for insights that aren't readily visible - for instance, until inclusion of this information, I wasn't aware that the shortest flights are NOT domestic flights. Journey Time is also useful in understanding how the airline manages congestion at larger airports, and add extra contingency. This obviously impacts on the profitability of routes - which provides additional context to understanding the network.
After adding the information, it was initially deleted, and claimed it was against a certain policy - but that policy there are no rules against this information. It was again deleted and claimed that this information is not "normally" included - but since when have we been strictly limited to what has gone before.
It was
said in a recent edit summary that These sources do not support the services were regular.
If parliamentary records aren't sufficient what would be needed? Perhaps the actual copies of something like this:
[3]
[4],
[5]
[6]?
219.76.24.216 (
talk) 08:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
BA already flew to Seoul before the opening of Inchon Airport in 2001. That airport was Kimpo, which has been added to the list. 219.76.24.197 ( talk) 08:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The BOAC flew to Haneda until its merger in 1971 with BEA and other airlines, whereas Narita wasn't opened until 1978. Do we need any references to "prove" that British Airways had regular flights to Haneda in the interim years? The same question for Singapore's Paya Lebar and Shanghai's Hung-ch'iao (though not too sure if the latter was already served by the BOAC before it became BA). 219.76.24.194 ( talk) 10:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Lead section:
"Following is a list of destinations the airline flies to, as of October 2020; terminated destinations are also listed". Why is the list of destinations on this date notable? Why are terminated destinations relevant? Many of the terminated destinations appear to have been terminated in the distant past, so why are they relevant to a listing as of October 2020?
Specific entries:
"From December 2023 we'll also fly to Innsbruck from London Gatwick during the winter months"(my emphasis), which implies that they don't only fly to this destination then. Additionally, this appears to be more WP:CRYSTALBALL citation. Considering the issues just in the "A" country section I stopped at this point.
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If we have to have a separate British Airways destinations article (about which I am not convinced - it does not seem sensible to leave the original British Airways page to view this - the destinations were originally listed alphabetically on the BA page, which I think is much better) then at least it should state the date when these destinations are actually being served and where the information is taken from eg Summer 2005, BA timetable. Ardfern 3 July 2005 22:19 (UTC)
Some of these flags add colour to what is otherwise a dull list. However, the inclusion of state (and city!) flags is making it too unwieldy. Can we restrict it to national flags only? The alternative would be to remove the flags altogether as I am not convinced they are essential for understanding the information presented. -- John 20:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
To screen out the Bmed destinations, I used this list: http://web.archive.org/web/20011230083826/http://www.britishairways.com/inside/wrldwide/partners/franchise/docs/bmed.shtml
WhisperToMe ( talk) 05:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
As British Airways will begin scheduled service from LCY - JFK/EWR with a fuel stop at Shannon on west-bound flights I have added Shannon to destinations page but styled as Shannon - Shannon Airport fuel stop. Any other thoughts, changed you wish to make, etc. Please reply. Thanks. Zaps93 ( talk) 18:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Recently there have been changed regarding the name of Ukraine capital, Kiev. The change is 'supposingly' the correct spelling for Kyiv, but I visted earlier this year and it was still spelt Kiev of boarding pass, so my question is why Kyiv if it is recognised and spelt as Kiev? Zaps93 ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Kiev is latinisation of Russian way of calling the Ukrainian capital. When Ukraine gained its independence from the Soviet Union, it was proposed that in English Kyiv is used instead (being the latinisation of the Ukrainian pronunciation). It took some time, but several English speaking countries (e.g. Canada, USA and UK) officially adopted the new name. The old name is still in use though (like in your example). It becomes quite interesting when UEFA Champion League subtitles mention FC Dynamo Kyiv playing in Kiev. The situation is very similar to the Mumbai/Bombai case. You may imagine the politics surrounding this issue. Kyiv is the correct English spelling of the city. Andriy155 ( talk) 21:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
http://ukinukraine.fco.gov.uk/en/ - As has been clearly demonstrated, the official spelling of the word is in fact Kyiv. Notice how airlines also migrate to Kyiv: Wizzair (the other airline you keep on changing the name of the city for) is using Kyiv: http://wizzair.com/?language=EN Andriy155 ( talk) 21:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
BGN database shows Kyiv as BGN standard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andriy155 ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Kiev please - that's the city's name in English. The comparison with Bombay/Mumbai is not correct, because that city's name was actually changed, unlike Kiev, where there's been no change in name. Apples to oranges really. A more apt compare would be something like Milan (which is Milano in Italian, Mailand in German, and so on) or Cairo (Le Caire, Kairo, etc) - these are different ways of calling the same city. Jasepl ( talk) 07:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
The 3rd general guideline of the naming conventions for geographic names currently states: "The contents (this applies to all articles using the name in question): The same name as in the title should be used consistently throughout the article." So, as long as the article on the city itself uses Kiev for its title, Kiev is the form that all other articles should use, including this one. — Besides, the name the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize (the core criterion of our naming conventions policy) is Kiev.
In any case, as MilborneOne mentions above, the naming issue itself should be discussed at Talk:Kiev/naming. If at some point discussion there leads to the article on the city being renamed to anything other than Kiev, that new name will be adopted in this article too, for consistency; but no before. - Best, Ev ( talk) 17:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
JFYI: The situation has evolved since 2009, there are now newer rules: WP:KYIV -- although Jimmy Dore still cannot spell it in his shows. 😊 -- Maxim Masiutin ( talk) 21:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I am just wondering why there are no states in the U.S.A. listed. They serve a large majority of cities all in a large variety of states and therefor I believe that states should be added to show their large network coverage in the U.S.A., like a major US airline. Your comments welcome. Regards, Zaps93 ( talk) 09:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Terminated destinations on the old list were without airports name so I made an effort to search for the airports. There is a possibility that some of them are wrong if so, contributions supported by references Will be appreciated. -- Meshoo.d ( talk) 22:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
British Airways will begin flying to Incheon International Airport from December 2, 2012 but there has been a dispute whether or not is this service a resumption or new service. 2 news articles are calling it a resumption but the airline's official press release calls it a new route. I know that the airline served Seoul in the past but they flew to Gimpo International Airport and ended service a little before Incheon became operational. 123.117.36.87 ( talk) 06:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Can these be added to the list with reference from BA World Cargo website? 182.178.63.22 ( talk) 18:56, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see the article of airports have hub of British Airways — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minhtuanvn 1995 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/20/ba-lcygrx-jul13/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minhtuanvn 1995 ( talk • contribs) 11:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
BA will fly to Las Palmas Gran Canaria and Granada http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/20/ba-lcygrx-jul13/ http://airlineroute.net/2013/05/03/ba-lhrlpa-w13/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.179.54.234 ( talk) 11:30, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2013/09/03/british-airways-dreamliner-austin-london-heahtrow/2757385/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.179.18.225 ( talk) 12:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi all, I just wanted to propose that the terminated destinations on this article either be removed, or put into a separate section with a valid reference to support its inclusion. What are your views? st170e talk 18:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
@ Spyder212: This [2] set of two edits was unsourced. Please do not accept edits like this one. The article has been PC-protected to prevent the addition of such information.-- Jetstreamer Talk 16:02, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Distance is particularly useful as it provides context for understanding how the airline's network has evolved and allows for insights that aren't readily visible - for instance, until inclusion of this information, I wasn't aware that the shortest flights are NOT domestic flights. Journey Time is also useful in understanding how the airline manages congestion at larger airports, and add extra contingency. This obviously impacts on the profitability of routes - which provides additional context to understanding the network.
After adding the information, it was initially deleted, and claimed it was against a certain policy - but that policy there are no rules against this information. It was again deleted and claimed that this information is not "normally" included - but since when have we been strictly limited to what has gone before.
It was
said in a recent edit summary that These sources do not support the services were regular.
If parliamentary records aren't sufficient what would be needed? Perhaps the actual copies of something like this:
[3]
[4],
[5]
[6]?
219.76.24.216 (
talk) 08:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
BA already flew to Seoul before the opening of Inchon Airport in 2001. That airport was Kimpo, which has been added to the list. 219.76.24.197 ( talk) 08:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The BOAC flew to Haneda until its merger in 1971 with BEA and other airlines, whereas Narita wasn't opened until 1978. Do we need any references to "prove" that British Airways had regular flights to Haneda in the interim years? The same question for Singapore's Paya Lebar and Shanghai's Hung-ch'iao (though not too sure if the latter was already served by the BOAC before it became BA). 219.76.24.194 ( talk) 10:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Lead section:
"Following is a list of destinations the airline flies to, as of October 2020; terminated destinations are also listed". Why is the list of destinations on this date notable? Why are terminated destinations relevant? Many of the terminated destinations appear to have been terminated in the distant past, so why are they relevant to a listing as of October 2020?
Specific entries:
"From December 2023 we'll also fly to Innsbruck from London Gatwick during the winter months"(my emphasis), which implies that they don't only fly to this destination then. Additionally, this appears to be more WP:CRYSTALBALL citation. Considering the issues just in the "A" country section I stopped at this point.
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What do you think about unprotection of the page?
According to WP:ADMINGUIDE/P, (see also WP:SILVERLOCK and WP:ROUGHSEMI) semi-protection can be used in cases of heavy vandalism by anonymous or new users. Are we currently experiencing heavy vandalism? I analyzed history and found the level of vandalism moderate, approximately the same as generally in Wikipedia, those regular edits are already monitored very well by watchers of the recent changes.
Thank you! Maxim Masiutin ( talk) 21:35, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi All, Just a heads up It is possible that this article will get deleted as I have noticed others getting deleted recently that also belong to major airlines. Unfortunately they are not allowed on Wikipedia anymore CHCBOY ( talk) 14:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)