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Should the letters be moved to Wikisource? Whose translation it is? Is it copyright free? -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, the last section may contain original research. I would be extra-cautious about anything said about Khazars full two centuries after their extermination. A writer of the late 12th century might have taken any foreigner for a "Khazar". -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
No, Abraham ibn Daud was very specific that the rabbinical students he encountered were ethnic Khazars. The destruction by Sviatoslav was not an extermination and references to the Khazars continue for some time thereafter. ibn Daud was well acquainted with the Khazars, as were many other early medieval rabbis. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
The translation is from Jacob Marcus, The Jew in the Medieval World: A Sourcebook, 315-1791, (New York: JPS, 1938), 227-232. Later printings of this text (e.g. by Atheneum, 1969, 1972, 1978) do not indicate that the copyright was renewed; the original edition's copyright lapsed. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I know of at least one reliable historical analysis of the possibilities/probabilities of a later forgery, and it is extensively quoted in the article. Maybe this [JSTOR 10.2979/jewisocistud.19.3.1 link] will work here too? The first step for you [and me] would be to read this article very carefully. It should contain also some suggestions on how to proceed with research on this topic. I intend to read it sometime soon, as time allows. Maybe you can get to it faster than me? Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 21:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I am surprised that the article doesn't state anywhere how historians came into possession of this letter. Was it discovered, passed down from prior generations, or something else? Shaked13 ( talk) 05:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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Should the letters be moved to Wikisource? Whose translation it is? Is it copyright free? -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, the last section may contain original research. I would be extra-cautious about anything said about Khazars full two centuries after their extermination. A writer of the late 12th century might have taken any foreigner for a "Khazar". -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
No, Abraham ibn Daud was very specific that the rabbinical students he encountered were ethnic Khazars. The destruction by Sviatoslav was not an extermination and references to the Khazars continue for some time thereafter. ibn Daud was well acquainted with the Khazars, as were many other early medieval rabbis. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
The translation is from Jacob Marcus, The Jew in the Medieval World: A Sourcebook, 315-1791, (New York: JPS, 1938), 227-232. Later printings of this text (e.g. by Atheneum, 1969, 1972, 1978) do not indicate that the copyright was renewed; the original edition's copyright lapsed. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 04:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I know of at least one reliable historical analysis of the possibilities/probabilities of a later forgery, and it is extensively quoted in the article. Maybe this [JSTOR 10.2979/jewisocistud.19.3.1 link] will work here too? The first step for you [and me] would be to read this article very carefully. It should contain also some suggestions on how to proceed with research on this topic. I intend to read it sometime soon, as time allows. Maybe you can get to it faster than me? Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 21:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I am surprised that the article doesn't state anywhere how historians came into possession of this letter. Was it discovered, passed down from prior generations, or something else? Shaked13 ( talk) 05:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)