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How do you pronounce her name? Like "Ha-cho"?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-poet-laureate-joy-harjo-on-opening-a-doorway-of-hope-for-indigenous-artists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1DE0:8FB0:4139:3DEF:387C:33DA ( talk) 04:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
is she not queer? and if she is, why is this not mentioned?
^To the above,
Joy Harjo is currently married and in a heterosexual relationship, if your query is regarding her sexuality. This very fact is not mentioned in her article because it is neither note worthy or relevant. I suppose literary contributions to works with homosexual themes fueled your incorrect and offensive assumption, but this is not the case. Further, queer is typically understood and absorbed as a pejorative term. The terms homosexual or gay would be more appropriate and more widely accessible in this encyclopedic setting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakemcsparin ( talk • contribs) 06:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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I have done extensive copy editing to try to improve the English and style of this article throughout. I deleted sections that seem too "peacock" (she received many awards, etc., she is highly praised, highly thought of - give facts and cites.) Parkwells ( talk) 18:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
While there are academic sources appearing at the bottom of the article, many cites refer to unsubstantiated blogs (some of which do not have a high quality of writing, so give readers little reason to rely on them) and Harjo's own website, a practice that is discouraged by Wikipedia MOS. Editors should concentrate on using Reliable Sources, preferably academic and mainstream journals and media. Parkwells ( talk) 18:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Would someone who knows how to edit well like to add her post in Tulsa?
https://pitchfork.com/news/poet-joy-harjo-named-bob-dylan-centers-first-artist-in-residence/
"Poet Joy Harjo Named Bob Dylan Center’s First Artist-in-Residence. U.S. poet laureate (and Tulsa native) begins her six-year tenure when the center opens on May 10 2022."
Htrowsle ( talk) 16:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Tobacco Origin Story and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 13#Tobacco Origin Story until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. BarleyButt ( talk) 18:04, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Joy Harjo claims that her mother was of Cherokee descent, but this seems questionable. She says that neither her mother nor her maternal grandmother were enrolled. I checked the Dawes Rolls for her mother's parents Desmond Baker and Leona Mae Evans. Neither is listed. Her great-grandmother (Leona's mother) was named Lena Evans. There is no Lena Evans listed as Cherokee on the Dawes Rolls, only a Muscogee Lena Evans. Harjo claims that she found her great-grandmother's marriage certificate to a man named Tom Christian, so she guesses that Tom was her great-grandfather, and says he was enrolled as Chickasaw. There is a Tom Christian listed on the Dawes Rolls as Chickasaw. This isn't enough information to list her as a legitimate Cherokee descendant. I don't even think it's enough information to list her as a legit Chickasaw descendant, given that she only "guesses" that Tom Christian was her biological great-grandfather. She seems a bit more confident of this in her 2021 memoir Poet Warrior, claiming Tom Christian as her maternal great-grandfather. She also claims that she found a "Cherokee Nation marriage certificate" for Lena Evans. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 07:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Why was Joy inspired by Simon J. Ortiz? 68.233.28.194 ( talk) 01:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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How do you pronounce her name? Like "Ha-cho"?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-poet-laureate-joy-harjo-on-opening-a-doorway-of-hope-for-indigenous-artists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1DE0:8FB0:4139:3DEF:387C:33DA ( talk) 04:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
is she not queer? and if she is, why is this not mentioned?
^To the above,
Joy Harjo is currently married and in a heterosexual relationship, if your query is regarding her sexuality. This very fact is not mentioned in her article because it is neither note worthy or relevant. I suppose literary contributions to works with homosexual themes fueled your incorrect and offensive assumption, but this is not the case. Further, queer is typically understood and absorbed as a pejorative term. The terms homosexual or gay would be more appropriate and more widely accessible in this encyclopedic setting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakemcsparin ( talk • contribs) 06:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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I have done extensive copy editing to try to improve the English and style of this article throughout. I deleted sections that seem too "peacock" (she received many awards, etc., she is highly praised, highly thought of - give facts and cites.) Parkwells ( talk) 18:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
While there are academic sources appearing at the bottom of the article, many cites refer to unsubstantiated blogs (some of which do not have a high quality of writing, so give readers little reason to rely on them) and Harjo's own website, a practice that is discouraged by Wikipedia MOS. Editors should concentrate on using Reliable Sources, preferably academic and mainstream journals and media. Parkwells ( talk) 18:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Would someone who knows how to edit well like to add her post in Tulsa?
https://pitchfork.com/news/poet-joy-harjo-named-bob-dylan-centers-first-artist-in-residence/
"Poet Joy Harjo Named Bob Dylan Center’s First Artist-in-Residence. U.S. poet laureate (and Tulsa native) begins her six-year tenure when the center opens on May 10 2022."
Htrowsle ( talk) 16:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Tobacco Origin Story and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 13#Tobacco Origin Story until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. BarleyButt ( talk) 18:04, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Joy Harjo claims that her mother was of Cherokee descent, but this seems questionable. She says that neither her mother nor her maternal grandmother were enrolled. I checked the Dawes Rolls for her mother's parents Desmond Baker and Leona Mae Evans. Neither is listed. Her great-grandmother (Leona's mother) was named Lena Evans. There is no Lena Evans listed as Cherokee on the Dawes Rolls, only a Muscogee Lena Evans. Harjo claims that she found her great-grandmother's marriage certificate to a man named Tom Christian, so she guesses that Tom was her great-grandfather, and says he was enrolled as Chickasaw. There is a Tom Christian listed on the Dawes Rolls as Chickasaw. This isn't enough information to list her as a legitimate Cherokee descendant. I don't even think it's enough information to list her as a legit Chickasaw descendant, given that she only "guesses" that Tom Christian was her biological great-grandfather. She seems a bit more confident of this in her 2021 memoir Poet Warrior, claiming Tom Christian as her maternal great-grandfather. She also claims that she found a "Cherokee Nation marriage certificate" for Lena Evans. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 07:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Why was Joy inspired by Simon J. Ortiz? 68.233.28.194 ( talk) 01:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)