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Nominator: Generalissima ( talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Ghosts of Europa ( talk · contribs) Looking forward to reviewing another of your articles (notwithstanding the depressing subject matter) 05:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
The whereabouts of the escaped slave had been discovered the day before setting sail, and Saunders hired agents to attempt to capture the fugitive in order to recuperate some of his continued financial losses.- Was this attempted capture successful?
Despite urging of caution, Saunders continued making large purchases of slaves, having sent 17 slaves to Franklin & Armfield by September 1831- Who urged caution to whom, and about what? Did Franklin tell Saunders to be cautious buying slaves because sales were down?
Sales made in Louisiana were passed as ones made in Virginia or Tennessee.- It's not clear what this entailed. Did Saunders lie on a form? The passive voice here sounds awkward, like the article denies him agency.
Slaves could also be sold "at sea", with buyers in New Orleans purchasing the slaves while the ship was en route, thereby introducing their own property into the state, outlined in the legislation as a legal exception- This is in a section titled Fraudulent Trade in Louisiana, but is it actually fraud, or just a loophole?
creating a massive profit which was then used by Saunders- Consider "Saunders earned a massive profit, which he used..."
The ability, albeit temporary, for Franklin & Armfield and their associates to violate the Louisiana legislation created a significant boom greatly capitalized on by Saunders.- I had to read this a few times to realize that "The ability to violate legislation created a boom" was effectively saying "They made money by breaking the law". I think this would be clearer if the subject of the sentence was Franklin & Armfield, not "the ability".
Although the following seasons were less lucrative, Saunders continued to profit from a booming slave market, as significant plantation expansion followed in the wake of Indian removal and the Trail of Tears. An active banking sector allowed for easy access to loans, compounding the number of farmers able to acquire slaves. However, a corresponding rise in competition accompanied the bull market, leading to increasingly high prices for enslaved people in Virginia. However, these were generally outmatched by demand in the Deep South, shipping around a hundred individuals during the 1832–1833 season- I find this whole paragraph hard to follow. It's compressing a lot of history I never learned, and the "x, but y, but z" structure makes me feel like I can't find my footing. In the last sentence, who or what is shipping a hundred people? Saunders? The Deep South?
Saunders never formally acknowledged his children, although most of his children received inheritance as part of his will- I'm not sure what this means. Putting children in a will isn't a formal acknowledgment?
A staunch supporter of Andrew Jackson, but the source only mentions his support for one specific policy of Jackson's. This seems like a stretch.
I think you've addressed everything I noticed. If you decide to push this to FAC, I would recommend adding a Background section to provide a bit more historical context, although I don't think that's necessary for GA.
This article is very reliant on a single source, but it's clearly a good source. I didn't find anything else on JSTOR or through Googling, so I can't point to anything you should have used instead. I think this is good for GA.
Jourdan Saunders has been listed as one of the
History good articles under the
good article criteria. If you can improve it further,
please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can
reassess it. Review: March 23, 2024. ( Reviewed version). |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
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A fact from Jourdan Saunders appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 4 April 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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The result was: promoted by
AirshipJungleman29
talk 00:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima ( talk). Self-nominated at 08:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jourdan Saunders; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: Generalissima ( talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Ghosts of Europa ( talk · contribs) Looking forward to reviewing another of your articles (notwithstanding the depressing subject matter) 05:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
The whereabouts of the escaped slave had been discovered the day before setting sail, and Saunders hired agents to attempt to capture the fugitive in order to recuperate some of his continued financial losses.- Was this attempted capture successful?
Despite urging of caution, Saunders continued making large purchases of slaves, having sent 17 slaves to Franklin & Armfield by September 1831- Who urged caution to whom, and about what? Did Franklin tell Saunders to be cautious buying slaves because sales were down?
Sales made in Louisiana were passed as ones made in Virginia or Tennessee.- It's not clear what this entailed. Did Saunders lie on a form? The passive voice here sounds awkward, like the article denies him agency.
Slaves could also be sold "at sea", with buyers in New Orleans purchasing the slaves while the ship was en route, thereby introducing their own property into the state, outlined in the legislation as a legal exception- This is in a section titled Fraudulent Trade in Louisiana, but is it actually fraud, or just a loophole?
creating a massive profit which was then used by Saunders- Consider "Saunders earned a massive profit, which he used..."
The ability, albeit temporary, for Franklin & Armfield and their associates to violate the Louisiana legislation created a significant boom greatly capitalized on by Saunders.- I had to read this a few times to realize that "The ability to violate legislation created a boom" was effectively saying "They made money by breaking the law". I think this would be clearer if the subject of the sentence was Franklin & Armfield, not "the ability".
Although the following seasons were less lucrative, Saunders continued to profit from a booming slave market, as significant plantation expansion followed in the wake of Indian removal and the Trail of Tears. An active banking sector allowed for easy access to loans, compounding the number of farmers able to acquire slaves. However, a corresponding rise in competition accompanied the bull market, leading to increasingly high prices for enslaved people in Virginia. However, these were generally outmatched by demand in the Deep South, shipping around a hundred individuals during the 1832–1833 season- I find this whole paragraph hard to follow. It's compressing a lot of history I never learned, and the "x, but y, but z" structure makes me feel like I can't find my footing. In the last sentence, who or what is shipping a hundred people? Saunders? The Deep South?
Saunders never formally acknowledged his children, although most of his children received inheritance as part of his will- I'm not sure what this means. Putting children in a will isn't a formal acknowledgment?
A staunch supporter of Andrew Jackson, but the source only mentions his support for one specific policy of Jackson's. This seems like a stretch.
I think you've addressed everything I noticed. If you decide to push this to FAC, I would recommend adding a Background section to provide a bit more historical context, although I don't think that's necessary for GA.
This article is very reliant on a single source, but it's clearly a good source. I didn't find anything else on JSTOR or through Googling, so I can't point to anything you should have used instead. I think this is good for GA.