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Some thoughts on that portion of the article ahead of a potential FAC:
I unfortunately only have the McCandless source on me right now, and it's a general history of the state during the statehood to brink of the Civil War period. If there's any further research needed, I can manage to get ahold of a copy of LeSueur's work on the conflict. Hog Farm Talk 03:04, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Smith and five others, including Rigdon, were charged with treason, and transferred to the jail at Liberty, Missouri, to await trial.
In the open the wording is, “ Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ.”
I am not aware of any organization officially identifying as LDS Church. I know many Latter-day Saints who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but if you are identifying official names then the official name is shown incorrectly.
For brevity I could see’The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS)’ after first use. Or short form ‘the Church’. But first use should show official name. Also, it may sound awkward, but it makes sense to me to remove ‘the’ before Community of Christ to avoid confusion around its official name. 2001:56A:F73F:4500:7D48:3302:EEE9:780D ( talk) 03:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Under the section titled, "Joseph Smith Jr.", 2nd paragraph, is this sentence, "The same year he organized the Church of Christ, calling it a restoration of the early Christian Church."
Suggestion: add a sentence clarifying that the church name was subsequently changed to the current title, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-daySaints", based on this recorded statement in April 26, 1838
"For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", Doctrine and Covenants 115:4
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/115?id=p4&lang=eng#p4
The name of the church was reitterated by the current president of the church:
"The Correct Name of the Church"
The emphasis on the correct name has eclipsed "Mormon church" or other popular references.
Suggestion: tie hyperlinks to the name of the church to that churches official website, which offers comprehensive historical records
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/books-and-lessons/church-history?lang=eng Sdoud ( talk) 01:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
The religion he founded is followed to the present day by millions of global adherents and several churches, the largest of which is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
In Missouri, the church also took the name "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"
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The statement in quotes below is not accurate there is no LDS Church, and members of the church have always referred to one another as Saints. They did for a period of time accept being called Mormons, but it was derogatory and often used to imply the members were not Christian, or that they were non member sympathizers of the church in general.
"Mormons generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ."
It should read "Saints generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints commonly referred to as the LDS Church, and the Community of Christ." Jason Wasden ( talk) 22:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Some thoughts on that portion of the article ahead of a potential FAC:
I unfortunately only have the McCandless source on me right now, and it's a general history of the state during the statehood to brink of the Civil War period. If there's any further research needed, I can manage to get ahold of a copy of LeSueur's work on the conflict. Hog Farm Talk 03:04, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Smith and five others, including Rigdon, were charged with treason, and transferred to the jail at Liberty, Missouri, to await trial.
In the open the wording is, “ Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ.”
I am not aware of any organization officially identifying as LDS Church. I know many Latter-day Saints who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but if you are identifying official names then the official name is shown incorrectly.
For brevity I could see’The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS)’ after first use. Or short form ‘the Church’. But first use should show official name. Also, it may sound awkward, but it makes sense to me to remove ‘the’ before Community of Christ to avoid confusion around its official name. 2001:56A:F73F:4500:7D48:3302:EEE9:780D ( talk) 03:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Under the section titled, "Joseph Smith Jr.", 2nd paragraph, is this sentence, "The same year he organized the Church of Christ, calling it a restoration of the early Christian Church."
Suggestion: add a sentence clarifying that the church name was subsequently changed to the current title, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-daySaints", based on this recorded statement in April 26, 1838
"For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", Doctrine and Covenants 115:4
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/115?id=p4&lang=eng#p4
The name of the church was reitterated by the current president of the church:
"The Correct Name of the Church"
The emphasis on the correct name has eclipsed "Mormon church" or other popular references.
Suggestion: tie hyperlinks to the name of the church to that churches official website, which offers comprehensive historical records
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/books-and-lessons/church-history?lang=eng Sdoud ( talk) 01:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
The religion he founded is followed to the present day by millions of global adherents and several churches, the largest of which is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
In Missouri, the church also took the name "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"
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The statement in quotes below is not accurate there is no LDS Church, and members of the church have always referred to one another as Saints. They did for a period of time accept being called Mormons, but it was derogatory and often used to imply the members were not Christian, or that they were non member sympathizers of the church in general.
"Mormons generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ."
It should read "Saints generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints commonly referred to as the LDS Church, and the Community of Christ." Jason Wasden ( talk) 22:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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