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This page has been listed for deletion by one of Wiki's police. I would like to see this page saved on Wikipedia for the educational value. The information is truthful and relevant. People are learning about sex offenders and desire to make informed decisions on current legislation in their communities. By reading profiles or biographies of established offenders, readers are able to achieve a better understanding. jaimenote
Vfd vote failed due to no consensus at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Joseph_E._Duncan_III. -- Woohookitty 20:24, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
It should definitely be kept. Does anyone have any info on his previous crime(s)?
I don't think it should be deleted, but maybe some references would be nice? This was all over the news at the time, so I think it's notable enough, and the article is clearly written, but appears unsourced. 24.131.12.228 06:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The page should explain the two external URL's. Why are there two? How do they differ? Is he the writer of both? How does he write from prison?
Changed the intro from "serial killer" to "alleged serial killer," as required by WP:BLP. Per [1] he is yet to be tried. The confession to earlier murders is described in the newspaper as "alleged." Edison 18:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
"If charged and convicted he may face a life sentence in Federal Supermax Prison in Florence, Colorado."
Wouldn't the abduction and murder of a child earn him a death sentence from the state of California? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smb2a ( talk • contribs) 23:43, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
the fifth nail does still exist, the most recent update was on august 13th 2018 titled "No shit Sherlock"
I didn't read all of the two blogs, but i read a number of the posts on each, and the Wikipedia article doesn't give it enough credit. It's very insightful, compassionate, honest, introspective, and valuable as a means for society to reflect on the phenomenon of criminality and how/why we should regard criminals differently. The Wikipedia article basically just makes him sound like a sex offense advocate. In fact, the one post I read regarding sex offense was saying that the way we're treating it is wrong because it only serves to exacerbate the problem of sex crimes. Let's have a more balanced view expressed in the "The Fifth Nail" section, please. Inhahe ( talk) 13:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Joseph Duncan was a child kidnapper. He killed a 10 year-old boy named Anthony Martinez which I want to be back to living because I pray for him and murdered a lot of the members of the Groene family. He murdered Brenda Groene, Slade Groene and Mark Mckenzie(Brenda's ex-wife). He kidnapped Shasta and Dylan Groene. Later, Dylan Groene got killed by Joseph Duncan. Shasta was still alive. He took Shasta Groene to a Denny's restaurant in Idaho. Someone noticed Joseph Duncan and then called the police. The police arrested Joseph Duncan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.145.85.248 ( talk) 03:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
" Waitress: 'I picked her up and held her'." CNN. Saturday July 2, 2005. WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I have done a substantial amount of cleanup on this article, including placing sections in some logical order, and updating the article with more recent developments. Please remember that, as much as anyone with a conscience ought to detest this person, WP:BLP still applies, and any contentious information must be backed up with a reliable source. Additionally, per WP:BLPNAME we should avoid using names of living people mentioned in passing if it is possible to do so without losing context. — KuyaBriBri Talk 20:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm so shocked that there are people like him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princessaleex ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
How is the eviction of a victim and her father of any relevance in an article about the criminal? It reads as a very awkward and irrelevant addition.
This article was nominated for deletion on 9 July 2005. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
A news item involving Joseph Edward Duncan was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 30 March 2021. |
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This page has been listed for deletion by one of Wiki's police. I would like to see this page saved on Wikipedia for the educational value. The information is truthful and relevant. People are learning about sex offenders and desire to make informed decisions on current legislation in their communities. By reading profiles or biographies of established offenders, readers are able to achieve a better understanding. jaimenote
Vfd vote failed due to no consensus at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Joseph_E._Duncan_III. -- Woohookitty 20:24, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
It should definitely be kept. Does anyone have any info on his previous crime(s)?
I don't think it should be deleted, but maybe some references would be nice? This was all over the news at the time, so I think it's notable enough, and the article is clearly written, but appears unsourced. 24.131.12.228 06:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The page should explain the two external URL's. Why are there two? How do they differ? Is he the writer of both? How does he write from prison?
Changed the intro from "serial killer" to "alleged serial killer," as required by WP:BLP. Per [1] he is yet to be tried. The confession to earlier murders is described in the newspaper as "alleged." Edison 18:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
"If charged and convicted he may face a life sentence in Federal Supermax Prison in Florence, Colorado."
Wouldn't the abduction and murder of a child earn him a death sentence from the state of California? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smb2a ( talk • contribs) 23:43, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
the fifth nail does still exist, the most recent update was on august 13th 2018 titled "No shit Sherlock"
I didn't read all of the two blogs, but i read a number of the posts on each, and the Wikipedia article doesn't give it enough credit. It's very insightful, compassionate, honest, introspective, and valuable as a means for society to reflect on the phenomenon of criminality and how/why we should regard criminals differently. The Wikipedia article basically just makes him sound like a sex offense advocate. In fact, the one post I read regarding sex offense was saying that the way we're treating it is wrong because it only serves to exacerbate the problem of sex crimes. Let's have a more balanced view expressed in the "The Fifth Nail" section, please. Inhahe ( talk) 13:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Joseph Duncan was a child kidnapper. He killed a 10 year-old boy named Anthony Martinez which I want to be back to living because I pray for him and murdered a lot of the members of the Groene family. He murdered Brenda Groene, Slade Groene and Mark Mckenzie(Brenda's ex-wife). He kidnapped Shasta and Dylan Groene. Later, Dylan Groene got killed by Joseph Duncan. Shasta was still alive. He took Shasta Groene to a Denny's restaurant in Idaho. Someone noticed Joseph Duncan and then called the police. The police arrested Joseph Duncan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.145.85.248 ( talk) 03:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
" Waitress: 'I picked her up and held her'." CNN. Saturday July 2, 2005. WhisperToMe ( talk) 16:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I have done a substantial amount of cleanup on this article, including placing sections in some logical order, and updating the article with more recent developments. Please remember that, as much as anyone with a conscience ought to detest this person, WP:BLP still applies, and any contentious information must be backed up with a reliable source. Additionally, per WP:BLPNAME we should avoid using names of living people mentioned in passing if it is possible to do so without losing context. — KuyaBriBri Talk 20:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm so shocked that there are people like him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princessaleex ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
How is the eviction of a victim and her father of any relevance in an article about the criminal? It reads as a very awkward and irrelevant addition.