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On 31 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Society of Jesus to Jesuits. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The result of the move request was: moved. The !vote count suggests we have a consensus to move, and more importantly the strength of arguments points in the same direction: the supporters make strong policy-based arguments (particularly under WP:COMMONNAME), while some oppose !votes aren't rooted in policies or guidelines at all. There are reasonable concerns based on WP:PRECISE, but those arguments have been rebutted and, ultimately, haven't convinced most !voters that the current title best satisfies the criteria. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:36, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Society of Jesus → Jesuits – "Jesuit" is the common English name used for the order, used in public branding. For example, the website for the order ( https://www.jesuits.org/) first mentions "Society of Jesus" only on the "About Page"; the use of "Society of Jesus" has similar limited use on the United Kingdom website ( https://www.jesuit.org.uk/). Renaming this page to "Jesuits" would be more familiar to the general public, and be in line with the articles for other major orders such as the "Order of Friars Minor" ( Franciscans) or the "Order of Preachers" ( Dominican Order) – Zfish118⋉ talk 00:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC). In the renamed article, "Society of Jesus" would remain a bold faced official title in the first paragraph. – Zfish118⋉ talk 00:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 20:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. – Zfish118⋉ talk 23:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Anybody have an idea why there are so many broken citation links in this article? It seems like more than just regular over time link rot? Jahaza ( talk) 04:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
I see several references that the Society of Jesus is the largest male religious order in the world. In this article it merely makes the claim that it's the largest order of priests and brothers. If the SJ is the largest male religious order, what is the largest religious order overall? I can't imagine a monolithic order of female religious that comes close. Elizium23 ( talk) 17:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
@ ForsythiaJo: The new Ireland section is very long. It may be better to create a Jesuits in Ireland article, and put a summary here. – Zfish118⋉ talk 21:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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On 31 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Society of Jesus to Jesuits. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The result of the move request was: moved. The !vote count suggests we have a consensus to move, and more importantly the strength of arguments points in the same direction: the supporters make strong policy-based arguments (particularly under WP:COMMONNAME), while some oppose !votes aren't rooted in policies or guidelines at all. There are reasonable concerns based on WP:PRECISE, but those arguments have been rebutted and, ultimately, haven't convinced most !voters that the current title best satisfies the criteria. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:36, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Society of Jesus → Jesuits – "Jesuit" is the common English name used for the order, used in public branding. For example, the website for the order ( https://www.jesuits.org/) first mentions "Society of Jesus" only on the "About Page"; the use of "Society of Jesus" has similar limited use on the United Kingdom website ( https://www.jesuit.org.uk/). Renaming this page to "Jesuits" would be more familiar to the general public, and be in line with the articles for other major orders such as the "Order of Friars Minor" ( Franciscans) or the "Order of Preachers" ( Dominican Order) – Zfish118⋉ talk 00:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC). In the renamed article, "Society of Jesus" would remain a bold faced official title in the first paragraph. – Zfish118⋉ talk 00:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 20:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. – Zfish118⋉ talk 23:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Anybody have an idea why there are so many broken citation links in this article? It seems like more than just regular over time link rot? Jahaza ( talk) 04:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
I see several references that the Society of Jesus is the largest male religious order in the world. In this article it merely makes the claim that it's the largest order of priests and brothers. If the SJ is the largest male religious order, what is the largest religious order overall? I can't imagine a monolithic order of female religious that comes close. Elizium23 ( talk) 17:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
@ ForsythiaJo: The new Ireland section is very long. It may be better to create a Jesuits in Ireland article, and put a summary here. – Zfish118⋉ talk 21:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)