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I think it is important to have most of the additional factual information on this page, I think it is a good upgrade of the page. Ânes-pur-sàng ( talk) 21:46, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

I do not think it is correct that an upgrade can be simply removed by you, User:Theroadislong when the creator User:Jersey Coastguard is supported by an independent party, namely myself. If as you say "It is YOU who needs to get consensus." then no upgrades could be done without having a number of people approving something they cannot even see. Please explain what you believe is wrong with the upgrade ? Can it be toned down in any way to suit you ? Ânes-pur-sàng ( talk) 22:00, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Your edit was entirely unreferenced, Wikipedia only reports on what the reliable sources say about a subject. Theroadislong ( talk)

It was not my expansion of the article, that was User:Jersey Coastguard, all I did was remove some bold headings, for which you thanked me. However coming back to the article, if it is just about referencing, is it not normal to just post a warning in the article about needing references and if they do not appear after a month or so, in then removing the unreferenced material. Ânes-pur-sàng ( talk) 23:59, 12 November 2016 (UTC) reply

I agree with Theroadislong that this was not a good "upgrade". It removed usual lead para style, removed a reference, added large amounts of unreferenced material (possibly WP:OR), and large amounts of material not necessarily relevant. In any case, User:Jersey Coastguard has since been blocked from editing. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 00:17, 13 November 2016 (UTC) reply