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Low-skill jobs
It should be mentioned that Jats work low-skill jobs such as "worker jobs" like farm labourer, manual harvesting and other low-investment jobs such as Amazon driver, truck driver, and other driver jobs (this is a big business in the Punjab reason and is influenced in Punjabi culture). Jatts work "Dalit" jobs because they are technically Dalits and bottom varna (shudra).
2605:8D80:405:3525:B928:8EA3:1A6C:6EE9 (
talk) 10:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)reply
hahaha, so call sick minded brahman
Pulkitrathi (
talk) 05:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
First and foremost, it must be understood that Jaat is not merely a group but a proud clan that eschews the confines of the so-called Brahmanical caste system. Within the ethos of the Jaat community, there exists a profound reverence for hard work, where no task is deemed too menial or insignificant. Whether behind the wheel of a truck or engaged in any other occupation, Jaats carry out their endeavors with dignity, devoid of any sense of shame. However, it is imperative to note that the Jaat ethos vehemently opposes any form of exploitation or deceitful practices aimed at the society. Despite their steadfast dedication to labor, the Jaats find themselves relegated to the lower echelons of the Brahminical societal hierarchy. This positioning is a consequence of the Jaats' vocal condemnation of the orthodox stratagems deployed by Brahmins to manipulate and deceive the common populace.
Pulkitrathi (
talk) 05:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Nirwal are also jaat
Geeta532 (
talk) 15:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Add "Godara" in Clans list.
Godara Clan is a very popular Jat Clan, which resides in the states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, Delhi.Modern book written about the history of Bikaner (Rajasthan), in which complete description of Godara Jats has been given, Page No. 116 of 417, 2nd paragraph, Godara's Mentioned in row 5 of the page.
eBook source :-
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.321079Albertx07 (
talk) 08:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
I understand that they may be a part of the Jat community, but we need to follow our policies. As mentioned on my talk page, please provide modern source by a reliable author! This is a Raj era source; we don't use such sources; read
WP:RAJ! That's the reason I had mentioned the term 'modern'; we need modern scholarly sources. Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 11:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Godara is an important part of Jat Clans, many books have been written about them. As a source, I can show the book written by Author Manisha Chaudhary, and the book "Godara Vanshavali Evm Itihas" written by Rajkumar Godara, there is evidence of Godara Jats, but they are identified from their history, hence it is based on the old history. I can share the links of modern books written by many authors but they are writing history of Godara Jats. Apart from this, what are the sources, can you tell me, I will share. If books writen by authors in this modern era mentioning history of Godara Clan, is verifiable. Then I can share! If it isn't. There're no sources available! As per Wikipedia policies. There're many living person, who are politicians, athletes. is it acceptable? As a source..
Albertx07 (
talk) 11:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, please share a reliable source by a modern author (post Raj era). Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 13:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
a book named "Nomadic Narratives" written by Dr. Tanuja Kothiyal, in this book there's a brief context describing about Godara Jats. I'm sending you 2 links from different websites!
Link-1 :
Nomadic Narratives (Complete book uploaded on this website, to access you can visit)
Link-2 :
Godara Jats Part where book "Nomadic Narratives" Describes about Godara Jats!
Albertx07 (
talk) 14:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
A short upgrade in social status which is not included In Punjab and Haryana, where they form a dominant caste, the Jats did not enjoy any reservation benefits I request to add this respectively
Truthfindervert (
talk) 13:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2024
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Done The sources you provided aren't
reliable. One of them is a
mirror of this English Wikipedia page, and the other is a wiki, which isn't considered reliable since anyone can edit information on it. However, I managed to find a source that backs up your addition, so I've included it in the article. –
DreamRimmer (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
add VP of India Jagdeep Dhankhar
Hi, can someone please add current Vice President of India Jagdeep Dhankhar as notable Jat poltician along with Chaudhary Charan Singh and Chaudhary Devi Lal under the section Republic of India. Thanks.
Amitdabas123 (
talk) 12:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This article is written in
Indian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, analysed, defence) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other
varieties of English. According to the
relevant style guide, this should not be changed without
broad consensus.
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Jats article. This is
not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ethnic groups, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles relating to
ethnic groups, nationalities, and other cultural identities on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject South Asia, which aims to improve the quality and status of all
South Asia-related articles. For more information, please visit the Project page.South AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject South AsiaTemplate:WikiProject South AsiaSouth Asia articles
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Text and/or other creative content from
this version of
Jats was copied or moved into
Jat with
this edit on 17 July 2005. The former page's
history now serves to
provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
This article has previously been nominated to be moved.
Discussions:
No consensus, 4 October 2019, from
Jat people to
Jat.
This page has archives. Sections older than 60 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 5 sections are present.
Low-skill jobs
It should be mentioned that Jats work low-skill jobs such as "worker jobs" like farm labourer, manual harvesting and other low-investment jobs such as Amazon driver, truck driver, and other driver jobs (this is a big business in the Punjab reason and is influenced in Punjabi culture). Jatts work "Dalit" jobs because they are technically Dalits and bottom varna (shudra).
2605:8D80:405:3525:B928:8EA3:1A6C:6EE9 (
talk) 10:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)reply
hahaha, so call sick minded brahman
Pulkitrathi (
talk) 05:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
First and foremost, it must be understood that Jaat is not merely a group but a proud clan that eschews the confines of the so-called Brahmanical caste system. Within the ethos of the Jaat community, there exists a profound reverence for hard work, where no task is deemed too menial or insignificant. Whether behind the wheel of a truck or engaged in any other occupation, Jaats carry out their endeavors with dignity, devoid of any sense of shame. However, it is imperative to note that the Jaat ethos vehemently opposes any form of exploitation or deceitful practices aimed at the society. Despite their steadfast dedication to labor, the Jaats find themselves relegated to the lower echelons of the Brahminical societal hierarchy. This positioning is a consequence of the Jaats' vocal condemnation of the orthodox stratagems deployed by Brahmins to manipulate and deceive the common populace.
Pulkitrathi (
talk) 05:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Nirwal are also jaat
Geeta532 (
talk) 15:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Add "Godara" in Clans list.
Godara Clan is a very popular Jat Clan, which resides in the states of Rajasthan, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, Delhi.Modern book written about the history of Bikaner (Rajasthan), in which complete description of Godara Jats has been given, Page No. 116 of 417, 2nd paragraph, Godara's Mentioned in row 5 of the page.
eBook source :-
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.321079Albertx07 (
talk) 08:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
I understand that they may be a part of the Jat community, but we need to follow our policies. As mentioned on my talk page, please provide modern source by a reliable author! This is a Raj era source; we don't use such sources; read
WP:RAJ! That's the reason I had mentioned the term 'modern'; we need modern scholarly sources. Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 11:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Godara is an important part of Jat Clans, many books have been written about them. As a source, I can show the book written by Author Manisha Chaudhary, and the book "Godara Vanshavali Evm Itihas" written by Rajkumar Godara, there is evidence of Godara Jats, but they are identified from their history, hence it is based on the old history. I can share the links of modern books written by many authors but they are writing history of Godara Jats. Apart from this, what are the sources, can you tell me, I will share. If books writen by authors in this modern era mentioning history of Godara Clan, is verifiable. Then I can share! If it isn't. There're no sources available! As per Wikipedia policies. There're many living person, who are politicians, athletes. is it acceptable? As a source..
Albertx07 (
talk) 11:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, please share a reliable source by a modern author (post Raj era). Thanks.
Ekdalian (
talk) 13:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
a book named "Nomadic Narratives" written by Dr. Tanuja Kothiyal, in this book there's a brief context describing about Godara Jats. I'm sending you 2 links from different websites!
Link-1 :
Nomadic Narratives (Complete book uploaded on this website, to access you can visit)
Link-2 :
Godara Jats Part where book "Nomadic Narratives" Describes about Godara Jats!
Albertx07 (
talk) 14:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)reply
A short upgrade in social status which is not included In Punjab and Haryana, where they form a dominant caste, the Jats did not enjoy any reservation benefits I request to add this respectively
Truthfindervert (
talk) 13:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2024
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Done The sources you provided aren't
reliable. One of them is a
mirror of this English Wikipedia page, and the other is a wiki, which isn't considered reliable since anyone can edit information on it. However, I managed to find a source that backs up your addition, so I've included it in the article. –
DreamRimmer (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
add VP of India Jagdeep Dhankhar
Hi, can someone please add current Vice President of India Jagdeep Dhankhar as notable Jat poltician along with Chaudhary Charan Singh and Chaudhary Devi Lal under the section Republic of India. Thanks.
Amitdabas123 (
talk) 12:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)reply