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Actually "Il Politecnico" had nothing to do with the Turinese academic institution of the same name. The title was inspired by Cattaneo's pioneering 19th century magazine. See the relevant articles on Italian Wikipedia or check e.g. this Italian academic source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.59.14 ( talk) 10:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Is If on a winter's night a traveler really that much more popular than his other stories? Enough to warrant a section on it? I haven't really seen any evidence of this anywhere... Recury 19:26, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It doesn't look to be a proper fair use image, since it is part of a book cover that is used to illustrate something besides the book. It will probably have to be deleted. Anyone have any other photos of Calvino? Recury 21:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope this resolves matters. Richard G. Shewmaker 08:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to do some work on the bibliography. There's some confusion in it between the publication dates of his works in Italian and later translations. In a number of cases the publication date given is the date an item originally printed in a magazine was published in book form.
His short stories and novellas present a real challenge, not only because many were first printed in magazines, but because some were printed in book form several times in combination with others.
Another challenge is that not all of his work was translated into English. I'm pretty sure a few of the titles were translated differently too.
The bibliography consists primarily of his fiction, but some non-fiction is in it as well. He wrote a tremendous amount of non-fiction: literary essays, lectures and introductions in great part. It probably makes sense to separate those.
I have almost all of his fiction in Italian. I have only a very small amount of his non-fiction but several books about him which provide a lot of information about his earlier works. I only have one of his books in English. I'll add the story titles for each of the collections since I have them on hand.
I'll bring up anything questionable here. Richard G. Shewmaker 23:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Quiddity. Many thanks for your kind encouragement. Martin McLaughlin's Italo Calvino (Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 1998) has a "Translations in English" section in its bibliography (p. 175-176) where the following translaters are listed: Archibald Colquhoun, Peggy Wright, William Weaver, George Martin, Tim Parks, Patrick Creagh (Six Memos for the Next Millenium), and Martin McLaughlin (revised Colquhoun's translation of The Path to the Spiders' Nests). I'll make a note today on translators and titles in the Calvino article. All best -- Jumbolino ( talk) 08:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
The bibliography of secondary sources is most incomplete. I added works but there is more to be done. The reference list is inappropriate. Only one list is cited and the author is not even mentioned. Wrong! Dr. Constance Markey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Consrance Markey ( talk • contribs) 21:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Despite "Constance Markey"'s misunderstanding of secondary sources here (sources that were used in the article itself) and his/her disruptive behaviour, the bibliography proposed by this editor is solid and helpful (I'm familiar with each reference, in particular, Ricci and Markey - the latter academic not to be confused with the "Constance Markey" editor) and propose that the list be included under the heading "Further reading". If no one objects, I'll insert the list below (revised and cleaned up). -- Jumbolino ( talk) 10:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I've converted the Fiction list into a table. Any objections, or should I continue? -- Quiddity ( talk) 09:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I think the article currently lists all the major works that were translated into English, and a few major untranslated works. FYI, I was mainly using these pages as guides (plus more that I've misplaced the links to), plus the few hardcopies I have at hand:
I have removed a couple of items that don't appear to have ever been translated directly ("I racconti" and "Cosmicomiche vecchie e nuove"), as the complete list of his Italian works would be too vast for this article.
Let me/us know here, if there's anything missing, or if anyone needs help adding or shifting content. Thanks :) -- Quiddity ( talk) 22:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I got a little lost at the mention of his belonging to a Fascist group in his youth... its placement early on lets one think he held these views as an adult. I'm curious about the source for this, and if true, and that membership was compulsory, maybe this just isn't important enough to include... it gives an odd impression, since he was anti-Fascist and actually fought fot the Resistance... just a thought Semodisesamo ( talk) 18:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Unitareas, I really appreciate your attempt to prove that a person who had been in the Communist Party for 12 years was not a communist. Now stop it, please. (Same goes for Calvino being an outspoken atheist). You must consider that biographical details should not be changed according to the editor's will.-- SandorKrasna ( talk) 16:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Following what has been done for Calvino, Unitareas's deletions should be reverted for Andrea Camilleri [1], Mario Monicelli [2], Marco Bellocchio [3], Giovanna Mezzogiorno [4], Gabriele d'Annunzio [5], Daniele Luttazzi [6], Margherita Hack [7], and many more.-- Sum ( talk) 20:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Was Calvino interested in the writer Cyrano de Bergerac ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrano_de_Bergerac_(writer))? If so, the article incorrectly links to the play by Rostand. If, on the other hand, he was interested in Rostand's play Cyrano de Bergerac, then the article should be edited to name Rostand, in parallel with the remainder of the list which is entirely made up of the names of writers. zadignose ( talk) 08:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
The use of the passive tense is maddening. Were deemed defective by whom? Rick Norwood ( talk) 00:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I thought I'd check to see if anybody's interested enough to comment re: what I'm proposing to do. There are inaccuracies in publication dates and manner of publication (together vs. singly; novel vs. story vs. collection of stories; genre; and more) that I think are worth taking the time to straighten up. That said, I'd rather not if it just turns into a pissing match. I don't have the time for that.
I own almost all of the book versions of Calvino's works (in Italian) and from them it's easy enough to see when the dates indicated in this article are inaccurate as well as when different titles were published together in book form (vs. magazine) for the first time.
Please let me know if you feel strongly about this one way or another. Many thanks. Tadiew ( talk) 03:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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Actually "Il Politecnico" had nothing to do with the Turinese academic institution of the same name. The title was inspired by Cattaneo's pioneering 19th century magazine. See the relevant articles on Italian Wikipedia or check e.g. this Italian academic source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.59.14 ( talk) 10:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Is If on a winter's night a traveler really that much more popular than his other stories? Enough to warrant a section on it? I haven't really seen any evidence of this anywhere... Recury 19:26, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It doesn't look to be a proper fair use image, since it is part of a book cover that is used to illustrate something besides the book. It will probably have to be deleted. Anyone have any other photos of Calvino? Recury 21:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope this resolves matters. Richard G. Shewmaker 08:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to do some work on the bibliography. There's some confusion in it between the publication dates of his works in Italian and later translations. In a number of cases the publication date given is the date an item originally printed in a magazine was published in book form.
His short stories and novellas present a real challenge, not only because many were first printed in magazines, but because some were printed in book form several times in combination with others.
Another challenge is that not all of his work was translated into English. I'm pretty sure a few of the titles were translated differently too.
The bibliography consists primarily of his fiction, but some non-fiction is in it as well. He wrote a tremendous amount of non-fiction: literary essays, lectures and introductions in great part. It probably makes sense to separate those.
I have almost all of his fiction in Italian. I have only a very small amount of his non-fiction but several books about him which provide a lot of information about his earlier works. I only have one of his books in English. I'll add the story titles for each of the collections since I have them on hand.
I'll bring up anything questionable here. Richard G. Shewmaker 23:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Quiddity. Many thanks for your kind encouragement. Martin McLaughlin's Italo Calvino (Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 1998) has a "Translations in English" section in its bibliography (p. 175-176) where the following translaters are listed: Archibald Colquhoun, Peggy Wright, William Weaver, George Martin, Tim Parks, Patrick Creagh (Six Memos for the Next Millenium), and Martin McLaughlin (revised Colquhoun's translation of The Path to the Spiders' Nests). I'll make a note today on translators and titles in the Calvino article. All best -- Jumbolino ( talk) 08:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
The bibliography of secondary sources is most incomplete. I added works but there is more to be done. The reference list is inappropriate. Only one list is cited and the author is not even mentioned. Wrong! Dr. Constance Markey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Consrance Markey ( talk • contribs) 21:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Despite "Constance Markey"'s misunderstanding of secondary sources here (sources that were used in the article itself) and his/her disruptive behaviour, the bibliography proposed by this editor is solid and helpful (I'm familiar with each reference, in particular, Ricci and Markey - the latter academic not to be confused with the "Constance Markey" editor) and propose that the list be included under the heading "Further reading". If no one objects, I'll insert the list below (revised and cleaned up). -- Jumbolino ( talk) 10:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I've converted the Fiction list into a table. Any objections, or should I continue? -- Quiddity ( talk) 09:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I think the article currently lists all the major works that were translated into English, and a few major untranslated works. FYI, I was mainly using these pages as guides (plus more that I've misplaced the links to), plus the few hardcopies I have at hand:
I have removed a couple of items that don't appear to have ever been translated directly ("I racconti" and "Cosmicomiche vecchie e nuove"), as the complete list of his Italian works would be too vast for this article.
Let me/us know here, if there's anything missing, or if anyone needs help adding or shifting content. Thanks :) -- Quiddity ( talk) 22:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I got a little lost at the mention of his belonging to a Fascist group in his youth... its placement early on lets one think he held these views as an adult. I'm curious about the source for this, and if true, and that membership was compulsory, maybe this just isn't important enough to include... it gives an odd impression, since he was anti-Fascist and actually fought fot the Resistance... just a thought Semodisesamo ( talk) 18:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Unitareas, I really appreciate your attempt to prove that a person who had been in the Communist Party for 12 years was not a communist. Now stop it, please. (Same goes for Calvino being an outspoken atheist). You must consider that biographical details should not be changed according to the editor's will.-- SandorKrasna ( talk) 16:45, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Following what has been done for Calvino, Unitareas's deletions should be reverted for Andrea Camilleri [1], Mario Monicelli [2], Marco Bellocchio [3], Giovanna Mezzogiorno [4], Gabriele d'Annunzio [5], Daniele Luttazzi [6], Margherita Hack [7], and many more.-- Sum ( talk) 20:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Was Calvino interested in the writer Cyrano de Bergerac ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrano_de_Bergerac_(writer))? If so, the article incorrectly links to the play by Rostand. If, on the other hand, he was interested in Rostand's play Cyrano de Bergerac, then the article should be edited to name Rostand, in parallel with the remainder of the list which is entirely made up of the names of writers. zadignose ( talk) 08:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
The use of the passive tense is maddening. Were deemed defective by whom? Rick Norwood ( talk) 00:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I thought I'd check to see if anybody's interested enough to comment re: what I'm proposing to do. There are inaccuracies in publication dates and manner of publication (together vs. singly; novel vs. story vs. collection of stories; genre; and more) that I think are worth taking the time to straighten up. That said, I'd rather not if it just turns into a pissing match. I don't have the time for that.
I own almost all of the book versions of Calvino's works (in Italian) and from them it's easy enough to see when the dates indicated in this article are inaccurate as well as when different titles were published together in book form (vs. magazine) for the first time.
Please let me know if you feel strongly about this one way or another. Many thanks. Tadiew ( talk) 03:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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"True to its historic roots, the Waldensian movement today is centred on
Piedmont in
Northern Italy" is a poster child for
wp:OR. (I should say more, hopefully soon.)
--
Jerzy•
t 18:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)