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The result of the move request was: no consensus. After extended time for discussion, there is a clear absence of consensus in favor of the proposed move at this time.
BD2412T 17:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Italian soft power →
Soft power of Italy – Somewhat more accurate, as "Italian" could suggest
Italians/the Italian diaspora, while "Italy" more closely suggests the Italian government. There are (to my knowledge) three articles on countries' soft power:
Italian soft power,
Soft power of China, and
Qatari soft power. I suggest this move be used as a litmus test to attempt to standardise article titles in this series, unless any editors can justify different titles for different countries' soft powers.
IgnatiusofLondon (
talk) 14:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.queen of 🖤 (they/them;
chat) 19:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think readers will be confused by the use of "Italian"; the topic makes no sense referring to anything other than the Italian state. On the other hand, "soft power of..." becomes decreasingly useful as a search formula the more entries are added to it, since readers are far more likely to search for the name of a country than for a term that could apply to dozens of them: Republic of Italy, earthquakes on Malta, etc. This is not to say that it is a bad title; just that it might be harder to find if more such articles are created, as we can reasonably anticipate over time. Standardization is not always necessary; I doubt whether much can be determined about the usefulness of different formulations from a "litmus test" at this stage.
P Aculeius (
talk) 12:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support For clarity.
Dympies (
talk) 03:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm with P Aculeius. I see no reason to move this, and don't find "Soft power of Italy" more clear; if anything, it's less idiomatic. But that doesn't mean I think it's worth changing "Soft power of China" either. --
asilvering (
talk) 23:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. After extended time for discussion, there is a clear absence of consensus in favor of the proposed move at this time.
BD2412T 17:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Italian soft power →
Soft power of Italy – Somewhat more accurate, as "Italian" could suggest
Italians/the Italian diaspora, while "Italy" more closely suggests the Italian government. There are (to my knowledge) three articles on countries' soft power:
Italian soft power,
Soft power of China, and
Qatari soft power. I suggest this move be used as a litmus test to attempt to standardise article titles in this series, unless any editors can justify different titles for different countries' soft powers.
IgnatiusofLondon (
talk) 14:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.queen of 🖤 (they/them;
chat) 19:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think readers will be confused by the use of "Italian"; the topic makes no sense referring to anything other than the Italian state. On the other hand, "soft power of..." becomes decreasingly useful as a search formula the more entries are added to it, since readers are far more likely to search for the name of a country than for a term that could apply to dozens of them: Republic of Italy, earthquakes on Malta, etc. This is not to say that it is a bad title; just that it might be harder to find if more such articles are created, as we can reasonably anticipate over time. Standardization is not always necessary; I doubt whether much can be determined about the usefulness of different formulations from a "litmus test" at this stage.
P Aculeius (
talk) 12:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support For clarity.
Dympies (
talk) 03:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm with P Aculeius. I see no reason to move this, and don't find "Soft power of Italy" more clear; if anything, it's less idiomatic. But that doesn't mean I think it's worth changing "Soft power of China" either. --
asilvering (
talk) 23:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
