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In case there's any mystification, Irish poetry was right to begin with, since it's a general term, while Irish Poetry is a proper name. We would only use "Irish Poetry" for a band, album, book, etc. Stan 14:21, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Will lyrical artists such as Feargal Sharkey of The Undertones ever find a place on a poetry page? Hopefully someday. Even though the modern medium of compact disk attracts poetic talent it is obviously diffiult to reconcile the the two media of paper and recording on a realistic Wikipedia page lookup level. In case you are wondering, Sharkey wrote and performed the lines: "Everything Goes When You're Dead//Everything Empties From Inside Of Your Head//No Point In Waiting Today//Stupid Revenge Is What's Making You Stay." This stanza is delivered in a very cheerful pop format that is patterned after the singing of traditional Irish tenors. It seems like very modern Yeats to me, as translated through the genre of the Irish tenor. Perhaps a little sweeter, if you know this recording, from Positive Touch by The Undertones. I hate to interrupt poetic study, but there is a lot of quality in this music product and a wise student would certainly take it into consideration in his or her academic outlook. As a student of both Irish poetry and The Undertones I can certainly recommend Positive Touch to any and all. As a student of poetry, however, I certainly fall short when it comes to saying something meaningful on an academic peer-review level. I am sorry if this entry seems out of place in this article's Talk area. -- McDogm 00:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I saw Irish Poetry on the front page, so, i added information about the irish poet i do know about, Robert D. Joyce. I know him cuz Dead Can Dance did a number on irish songs in their Into the Labyrinth album. If you know any more info, i'd be appreciated. Thanks. Project2501a 02:02, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Do these articles get downgraded on the brain-dead but trendy "second album" or "film sequel" basis - or is there some more objective reason? ( Sarah777 22:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC))
I have deleted some lines of irrelevant waffle about poetry sales in the twentieth century from the 'Irish Poetry Now' section. They seemed to me to have nothing to do with the subject. This section, I'd like to suggest, is badly in need of a clean-up and expansion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.17.168 ( talk) 20:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I have treied to add a section and links to the article about the Weaver Poets of Ulster, but to no avail, being undone for lack of citation. On e of the subjects from this genre Sameuel Ferguson is featured in the article.
Can I ask someone to reorder the article to take note of this subgenre of Irish poetry from the 19th century, or are Ulster Scots excluded from Irish poetry? As a nationalsit who desires the reunification of my country, and in the intrest of fair play and a balief in equality, I think this area of our poetic tradition needs to be highlighted in equality of importance with any of the other sections. Eiri Amach ( talk) 15:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This page is in need of a major overhaul. The idea that Ciaran Carson is a poet who has just 'emerged' in recent years, for instance, is ludicrous. Equally ludicrous, in comparison, is the amount of space occupied by one Basil Payne, a writer I think it's fair to say does not deserve to be on this page at all. Major rewrites needed all round. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.75.186 ( talk) 14:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Gerard McKeown, in 'Poetry Now', has not published a book of poetry. How can he therefore be worthy of an encyclopaedia entry? I suggest deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.83.52 ( talk) 08:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please do something about this article. It is abysmal, and has been for a long time. Derek Mahon is one of the newer emerging Irish poets, apparently. The unpublished non-entity Basil Payne is deserving of a whole paragraph. SORT IT OUT, SOMEONE.
I suggest you sort yourself out first, your ignorance is only superceeded by your arrogance. Basil Payne was first published in 1961, has four published books, and certainly deserves more than a paragraph -unlike you, he did not write without knowledge. Regards, his sons.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.206.198.200 ( talk) 23:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
This is a pastiche of an article that needs a major rewrite. Virtually nothing in the text is referenced. The twentieth century sections seem to have adisconnect between the importance of individual poets and the amount of space devoted to them. Cathar11 ( talk) 03:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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The lead mentions two languages, but shouldn't it mention a third, Hiberno-Latin? — Srnec ( talk) 17:56, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I have given the section on the twentieth century a fairly severe pruning, given the amount of superfluous information and the generally subjective tone. The links to various poets should supply all the further information that is necessary about the individuals in question. I have also added a number of references. Further work may be necessary.
I shall also devote some attention to preceding sections.
Colin Ryan ( talk) 06:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't the article, especially the lede, address the ambiguity of the term "Irish poet"? That is it that includes poets from both the Republic of Ireland and from Northern Ireland; any poet writing in the Island of Ireland, whatever their nationality. Furthermore, does this article sufficiently articulate the political situation? Rwood128 ( talk) 20:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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I found several plagiarized quotations from what appears to be an e-book, Poetry Kaleidoscope by Nicolae Sfetcu. There may be more.
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Rwood128 ( talk) 22:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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In case there's any mystification, Irish poetry was right to begin with, since it's a general term, while Irish Poetry is a proper name. We would only use "Irish Poetry" for a band, album, book, etc. Stan 14:21, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Will lyrical artists such as Feargal Sharkey of The Undertones ever find a place on a poetry page? Hopefully someday. Even though the modern medium of compact disk attracts poetic talent it is obviously diffiult to reconcile the the two media of paper and recording on a realistic Wikipedia page lookup level. In case you are wondering, Sharkey wrote and performed the lines: "Everything Goes When You're Dead//Everything Empties From Inside Of Your Head//No Point In Waiting Today//Stupid Revenge Is What's Making You Stay." This stanza is delivered in a very cheerful pop format that is patterned after the singing of traditional Irish tenors. It seems like very modern Yeats to me, as translated through the genre of the Irish tenor. Perhaps a little sweeter, if you know this recording, from Positive Touch by The Undertones. I hate to interrupt poetic study, but there is a lot of quality in this music product and a wise student would certainly take it into consideration in his or her academic outlook. As a student of both Irish poetry and The Undertones I can certainly recommend Positive Touch to any and all. As a student of poetry, however, I certainly fall short when it comes to saying something meaningful on an academic peer-review level. I am sorry if this entry seems out of place in this article's Talk area. -- McDogm 00:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I saw Irish Poetry on the front page, so, i added information about the irish poet i do know about, Robert D. Joyce. I know him cuz Dead Can Dance did a number on irish songs in their Into the Labyrinth album. If you know any more info, i'd be appreciated. Thanks. Project2501a 02:02, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Do these articles get downgraded on the brain-dead but trendy "second album" or "film sequel" basis - or is there some more objective reason? ( Sarah777 22:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC))
I have deleted some lines of irrelevant waffle about poetry sales in the twentieth century from the 'Irish Poetry Now' section. They seemed to me to have nothing to do with the subject. This section, I'd like to suggest, is badly in need of a clean-up and expansion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.17.168 ( talk) 20:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I have treied to add a section and links to the article about the Weaver Poets of Ulster, but to no avail, being undone for lack of citation. On e of the subjects from this genre Sameuel Ferguson is featured in the article.
Can I ask someone to reorder the article to take note of this subgenre of Irish poetry from the 19th century, or are Ulster Scots excluded from Irish poetry? As a nationalsit who desires the reunification of my country, and in the intrest of fair play and a balief in equality, I think this area of our poetic tradition needs to be highlighted in equality of importance with any of the other sections. Eiri Amach ( talk) 15:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This page is in need of a major overhaul. The idea that Ciaran Carson is a poet who has just 'emerged' in recent years, for instance, is ludicrous. Equally ludicrous, in comparison, is the amount of space occupied by one Basil Payne, a writer I think it's fair to say does not deserve to be on this page at all. Major rewrites needed all round. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.75.186 ( talk) 14:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Gerard McKeown, in 'Poetry Now', has not published a book of poetry. How can he therefore be worthy of an encyclopaedia entry? I suggest deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.83.52 ( talk) 08:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please do something about this article. It is abysmal, and has been for a long time. Derek Mahon is one of the newer emerging Irish poets, apparently. The unpublished non-entity Basil Payne is deserving of a whole paragraph. SORT IT OUT, SOMEONE.
I suggest you sort yourself out first, your ignorance is only superceeded by your arrogance. Basil Payne was first published in 1961, has four published books, and certainly deserves more than a paragraph -unlike you, he did not write without knowledge. Regards, his sons.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.206.198.200 ( talk) 23:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
This is a pastiche of an article that needs a major rewrite. Virtually nothing in the text is referenced. The twentieth century sections seem to have adisconnect between the importance of individual poets and the amount of space devoted to them. Cathar11 ( talk) 03:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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The lead mentions two languages, but shouldn't it mention a third, Hiberno-Latin? — Srnec ( talk) 17:56, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I have given the section on the twentieth century a fairly severe pruning, given the amount of superfluous information and the generally subjective tone. The links to various poets should supply all the further information that is necessary about the individuals in question. I have also added a number of references. Further work may be necessary.
I shall also devote some attention to preceding sections.
Colin Ryan ( talk) 06:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn't the article, especially the lede, address the ambiguity of the term "Irish poet"? That is it that includes poets from both the Republic of Ireland and from Northern Ireland; any poet writing in the Island of Ireland, whatever their nationality. Furthermore, does this article sufficiently articulate the political situation? Rwood128 ( talk) 20:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
:
I found several plagiarized quotations from what appears to be an e-book, Poetry Kaleidoscope by Nicolae Sfetcu. There may be more.
Rwood128 (
talk) 18:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Rwood128 ( talk) 22:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)