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The use of "elder" must, I think, be taken as a self-description. I do not get the impression that they occupy some sort of official position within their various cultures. Mangoe ( talk) 02:46, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
I found or others have mentioned in AfD(s). And there are a few in external links. I'll add to as others mention them:
This appears to be the only real source, but it's very problematic. It doesn't seem to be an independent or dispassionate work, as per the foreword:
It has been a great honor to work closely with the International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers in crafting this book. [....] I have done my best to express what I have heard and learned from the Grandmothers, but my ability to act as a bridge or translator to a wider audience is, to a certain extent, hindered by the limits of my own understanding and experience. [....] Finally, though my name appears on the cover of this book, the words of wisdom expressed within it are not mine, and I do not lay claim to them.
Schaefer comes off, in this, as essentially an amanuensis, and her capsule biographies come across as borderline hagiographies. I cannot consider this book to be a reliable, secondary source. Mangoe ( talk) 13:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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The use of "elder" must, I think, be taken as a self-description. I do not get the impression that they occupy some sort of official position within their various cultures. Mangoe ( talk) 02:46, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
I found or others have mentioned in AfD(s). And there are a few in external links. I'll add to as others mention them:
This appears to be the only real source, but it's very problematic. It doesn't seem to be an independent or dispassionate work, as per the foreword:
It has been a great honor to work closely with the International Council of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers in crafting this book. [....] I have done my best to express what I have heard and learned from the Grandmothers, but my ability to act as a bridge or translator to a wider audience is, to a certain extent, hindered by the limits of my own understanding and experience. [....] Finally, though my name appears on the cover of this book, the words of wisdom expressed within it are not mine, and I do not lay claim to them.
Schaefer comes off, in this, as essentially an amanuensis, and her capsule biographies come across as borderline hagiographies. I cannot consider this book to be a reliable, secondary source. Mangoe ( talk) 13:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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