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No doubt the Bull was decreed on 1582-02-24 on a modern representation of the Julian Calendar; and the Julian Calendar was certainly used at the time. But Opera Mathematica V p.15, as shown at ND, which contains the end of the Bull, has "Datum Tusculi Anno Incarnationis Dominicæ M. D. LXXXI. Sexto Calend. Martij, Pontificatus nostri Anno Decimo.", and MDLXXXI equals 1581. The Article seems to have no mention of the change of the day of the change of the number of the year, so the point seems to need clarification in the Article. 82.163.24.100 ( talk) 13:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Opera Mathematica V p.13, which contains the beginning of the Bull, has M. D. LXXXII. at the top. If that is applicable also to the following Canons, it would mean that the Canons were written or issued in the following year, i.e. after March 24th, 1582, Julian. However, the Article presently has "Attached to the bull were six canons ..." which to me seems to mean that the Canons were attached to the Bull on the date of decree. That's a possible inconsistency. Is the date of writing or isue of the Canons known with certainty? 82.163.24.100 ( talk) 13:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Contains "By "restore", Gregory meant to move the vernal equinox close to March 21, ... ". The Almighty may be able to move an Equinox; but that is not within the power of a Pope. It should read " ... to move March 21 [to be] close to the vernal equinox, ... ". 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 15:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
At the end of the section, I see "(1612)" as the date of the Opera Mathematica. A search for Clavius Opera Mathematica shows "HTML" dates 1611, 1611-12, 1612, and finds two different "front page"s, one clearly 1611 and the other clearly 1612. It would be nice to have the matter resolved. On the Clavius page, I see that he died "6 February 1612" - but was that a Julian or Gregorian date, and which calendars were the printers using? A detail, of course, but it would be nice to get it perfected. 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 12:10, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
In my view, there's a much better version of the present Reference 4 at http://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/ECHOdocuView/ECHOzogiLib?mode=imagepath&url=/mpiwg/online/permanent/library/YXK9FE9W/pageimg - 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 15:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
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No doubt the Bull was decreed on 1582-02-24 on a modern representation of the Julian Calendar; and the Julian Calendar was certainly used at the time. But Opera Mathematica V p.15, as shown at ND, which contains the end of the Bull, has "Datum Tusculi Anno Incarnationis Dominicæ M. D. LXXXI. Sexto Calend. Martij, Pontificatus nostri Anno Decimo.", and MDLXXXI equals 1581. The Article seems to have no mention of the change of the day of the change of the number of the year, so the point seems to need clarification in the Article. 82.163.24.100 ( talk) 13:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Opera Mathematica V p.13, which contains the beginning of the Bull, has M. D. LXXXII. at the top. If that is applicable also to the following Canons, it would mean that the Canons were written or issued in the following year, i.e. after March 24th, 1582, Julian. However, the Article presently has "Attached to the bull were six canons ..." which to me seems to mean that the Canons were attached to the Bull on the date of decree. That's a possible inconsistency. Is the date of writing or isue of the Canons known with certainty? 82.163.24.100 ( talk) 13:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Contains "By "restore", Gregory meant to move the vernal equinox close to March 21, ... ". The Almighty may be able to move an Equinox; but that is not within the power of a Pope. It should read " ... to move March 21 [to be] close to the vernal equinox, ... ". 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 15:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
At the end of the section, I see "(1612)" as the date of the Opera Mathematica. A search for Clavius Opera Mathematica shows "HTML" dates 1611, 1611-12, 1612, and finds two different "front page"s, one clearly 1611 and the other clearly 1612. It would be nice to have the matter resolved. On the Clavius page, I see that he died "6 February 1612" - but was that a Julian or Gregorian date, and which calendars were the printers using? A detail, of course, but it would be nice to get it perfected. 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 12:10, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
In my view, there's a much better version of the present Reference 4 at http://echo.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/ECHOdocuView/ECHOzogiLib?mode=imagepath&url=/mpiwg/online/permanent/library/YXK9FE9W/pageimg - 94.30.84.71 ( talk) 15:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)