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There needs to be a page about FSA-ISIS conflict, (or rather SRF-ISIS conflict, not that the FSA has rebranded itself). Not sure where to put the news about the ISIS executing Ammar al-Wawi...for now I'll just put it on the Idlib Governorate page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrogTrain ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 20 December 2013
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Hello, I propose to divide this article into Rebel-ISIS conflict and Inter-rebel conflict. ISIS is not generally seen as part of the rebel opposition. It is a group opposed by basically everyone else (the few allies like Jund-al-aqsa or Yarmouk martyrs etc. shall be of course listed below them same as it is now).
FSA/Ahrar-as-sham/Jaysh-al-islam/JTS vs. Al-Nusra/Tahrir-as-sham/Al-Rahman is basically completely unrelated conflict (the only one truly inter-rebel), which still holds the same line for several years (with some name changes, defections etc.) disrupted by ceasefire periods and continuing until today (with another ceaserfire taking place between HTS and JTS right now).
The war against ISIS is generally over with rebel victory.
The current state of the article is really messed up. I might help with adding appropriate group and status info into the infobox (notice there is for example Old commanders and strength info for Islamic front, which is not listed as belligerent anymore - just one of the many small errors) as well as few references to another article if someone clears off the ISIS stuff into separate article.-- 217.30.64.202 ( talk) 00:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello guys, thanks for division of the article. Many great work has been done there. I have made few more changes into the infobox:
1) Adding the groups fighting in Ghouta (with Ahrar ash-Sham/Tahrir ash-Sham support)
2) Differentiation between Qatari and Saudi supported groups (though the relationships between so many groups over so many years is extremely complex and support differed and changed time to time, generally it was Saudis backing Ahrar and allies while Qatar backing Tahrir and allies, which was also part of their proxy conflict, therefore I added the word "occasionally" for the other side)
3) I have problems with the "Islamic front" alliance, which existed about one year only. The infobox keeps the old info of "40k-70k", who were perhaps fighting ISIS at some point, but I have serious doubts, such a strength was ever subject to some infighting. There is no source, nor date of the information, so I added "citation needed" template and it might be good to look into it in the future.
Anyway I like the current shape of this article with several brief chapters and a lot of references to another article about specific battles. Just one last think, I am a bit confused with Rif Damashq/Ghouta clashes being part of the chapter on FSA-Islamic front conflict. Is not it more likely content for the previous Ahrar ash-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam and Al-Qaeda chapter?
Is there anything needed to be done now about the article (for example moving of the mentioned Ghouta clashes), that I can help with? I am trying to reach consensus first, since I do not have much time to waste on opposed move as well as I am not experienced contributor and native speaker.-- 217.30.64.202 ( talk) 23:49, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Considering the FSA has split into numerous splinter factions, with some of whom have integrated themselves into the SDF, while others have preferred to work alongside Turkey leading to infighting between FSA splinters, I kinda am surprised how it's not mentioned in this page. Since it's pretty relevant to this article, shouldn't the conflict between pro-SDF FSA vs Turkish-backed FSA factions also get included here? 10:57, 20 March 2024 GigaMigaDigaChad ( talk) (EST)
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There needs to be a page about FSA-ISIS conflict, (or rather SRF-ISIS conflict, not that the FSA has rebranded itself). Not sure where to put the news about the ISIS executing Ammar al-Wawi...for now I'll just put it on the Idlib Governorate page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrogTrain ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 20 December 2013
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Hello, I propose to divide this article into Rebel-ISIS conflict and Inter-rebel conflict. ISIS is not generally seen as part of the rebel opposition. It is a group opposed by basically everyone else (the few allies like Jund-al-aqsa or Yarmouk martyrs etc. shall be of course listed below them same as it is now).
FSA/Ahrar-as-sham/Jaysh-al-islam/JTS vs. Al-Nusra/Tahrir-as-sham/Al-Rahman is basically completely unrelated conflict (the only one truly inter-rebel), which still holds the same line for several years (with some name changes, defections etc.) disrupted by ceasefire periods and continuing until today (with another ceaserfire taking place between HTS and JTS right now).
The war against ISIS is generally over with rebel victory.
The current state of the article is really messed up. I might help with adding appropriate group and status info into the infobox (notice there is for example Old commanders and strength info for Islamic front, which is not listed as belligerent anymore - just one of the many small errors) as well as few references to another article if someone clears off the ISIS stuff into separate article.-- 217.30.64.202 ( talk) 00:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello guys, thanks for division of the article. Many great work has been done there. I have made few more changes into the infobox:
1) Adding the groups fighting in Ghouta (with Ahrar ash-Sham/Tahrir ash-Sham support)
2) Differentiation between Qatari and Saudi supported groups (though the relationships between so many groups over so many years is extremely complex and support differed and changed time to time, generally it was Saudis backing Ahrar and allies while Qatar backing Tahrir and allies, which was also part of their proxy conflict, therefore I added the word "occasionally" for the other side)
3) I have problems with the "Islamic front" alliance, which existed about one year only. The infobox keeps the old info of "40k-70k", who were perhaps fighting ISIS at some point, but I have serious doubts, such a strength was ever subject to some infighting. There is no source, nor date of the information, so I added "citation needed" template and it might be good to look into it in the future.
Anyway I like the current shape of this article with several brief chapters and a lot of references to another article about specific battles. Just one last think, I am a bit confused with Rif Damashq/Ghouta clashes being part of the chapter on FSA-Islamic front conflict. Is not it more likely content for the previous Ahrar ash-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam and Al-Qaeda chapter?
Is there anything needed to be done now about the article (for example moving of the mentioned Ghouta clashes), that I can help with? I am trying to reach consensus first, since I do not have much time to waste on opposed move as well as I am not experienced contributor and native speaker.-- 217.30.64.202 ( talk) 23:49, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Considering the FSA has split into numerous splinter factions, with some of whom have integrated themselves into the SDF, while others have preferred to work alongside Turkey leading to infighting between FSA splinters, I kinda am surprised how it's not mentioned in this page. Since it's pretty relevant to this article, shouldn't the conflict between pro-SDF FSA vs Turkish-backed FSA factions also get included here? 10:57, 20 March 2024 GigaMigaDigaChad ( talk) (EST)