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The Porn FAQ at http://www.iafd.com/person.asp?perfid=Cicciolina&gender=F gives her birth date as Wednesday, December 26, 1951 contradicting the information in the article. http://search.excaliburfilms.com/pornlist/starpgs/ciccioli.htm gives December 12. AxelBoldt
So Cicciolina is not dead after all! — JIP | Talk 5 July 2005 19:20 (UTC)
She was born in Hungary but became a porn star (and much more) in Italy. Should she be considered (for category purposes) a Hungarian porn star or an Italian porn star? - EdgarAllanToe 14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
As a former member of the Italian Parliament, she is styled 'Honourable Anna Ilona Staller'. Please do not remove the correct manner of address. 81.208.83.215 13:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
The title "Onorevole" (Honourable) is applied only to the actual members of the Parliament, not to the former members.Check the Italian version of the page where there's no "Honourable" applied to the name 84.222.95.52 22:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This article should be renamed according to Wikipedia's policy to "Cicciolina", as this is Ilona Staller's stage name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.217.121 ( talk) 10:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
And is it a technical term? I'm completely confused. 4.248.47.106 ( talk) 18:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
This statement about rumors of Cicciolina fellating an Italian Stallion are a text book example of Wikipedia's policy of rumors about public figures. To wit:
In the case of significant public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable, third-party published sources to take material from, and Wikipedia biographies should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article.
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A politician is alleged to have had an affair. He denies it, but the New York Times publishes the allegations, and there is a public scandal. The allegation may belong in the biography, citing the New York Times as the source.
The two articles cited refute the rumor nearly 20 years after it appeared, so it's not appropriate to include them in the text (According to the Belfast Telegraph...) but the rumor persists and looms large in the subjects notoriety. Plus, there's basis to the rumor: the zoophilia with a horse did go down in a film she starred in, except by a different ... uhh... actress. 20:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Her first appearence in a Playboy issue was in Italian Playboy, June 1980. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.91.36.14 ( talk) 22:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
The article begins by describing Cicciolina as an "Italian politician, porn-star, and singer". In terms of notability, the order needs to be changed : She is most notable for having being a pornographic model and film performer, first and foremost, then for her brief stint in Italian politics and then as a (novelty) singer. Also, the sentence "She is famous for delivering political speeches with one breast exposed", needs to be moved from the introduction to the section about her political career.- The Gnome ( talk) 19:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: One of the most famous porn star Ilona Staller 26th November 2011th will have a 60th years. Being on the list of the Radical Party Marco Panella since 1987 until 1992 the Deputies of the Parliament of Italy, acquired the requirements to recieve a state pension of 3,000 euros a month. Happy days a well-deserved retirement, Onorevole Cicciolina. 78.2.84.129 ( talk) 20:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: A former secret agent, porn actress and politician Ilona Staller Cicciolina be spiritualy transformed. She is now retired, lives in Rome and go every Sunday to Mass at the Vatican. 78.2.47.187 ( talk) 02:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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The radio show on Radio Luna called Voulez-vous coucher avec moi? she started in 1976, not in 1973: in that year the ratio station don't existed yet, indeed it started in 1976 following the italian "free radio" fenomena, when a lot of local and indipendent radio stations started in the late 1970's. -- Il Passeggero - I love to love you 07:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IlPasseggero ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 14:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Ilona Staller → Cicciolina – This is per WP:COMMONNAME. Even the article itself says in the first sentence that she is better known as Cicciolina. Google News Search, for example, returns 12,800 results for "Cicciolina" and 2,800 for "Ilona Staller". Vanjagenije (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. sst ✈ 09:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
"Ilona the Very Best" on Bulldozer's album "IX" (1987) "Ilona has been elected" on Bulldozer's album "Neurodeliri" (1988) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.139.13.205 ( talk) 08:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Chi ha tradotto "cicciolino" con "little chubby" si è probabilmente confuso con "cicciottino". In italiano, il termine "cicciolino", così come il suo corrispondente femminile "cicciolina", viene usato come termine affettuoso, praticamente analogo a "ciccino", e molto simile a "tesoruccio", "amoruccio" ecc., e non ha nulla a che vedere con la grassezza, tanto è vero che anche il mio nipotino, che è decisamente magro, viene da me chiamato "cicciolino", in alternanza con "tesoruccio" e altri termini simili. Se uno volesse dire "little chubby", direbbe "cicciottino" ("tt" al posto di "l"), che appunto fa riferimento alla grassezza, anche se in forma attenuata e in un certo senso vezzeggiativa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.32.65.198 ( talk) 22:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
The Italian WP has her as "Ilona Staller, all'anagrafe Elena Anna Staller, nota anche con lo pseudonimo di Cicciolina" but does not give pronunciations. It might be useful to add pronunciations for Staller and Cicciolina.-- Johnsoniensis ( talk) 11:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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The Porn FAQ at http://www.iafd.com/person.asp?perfid=Cicciolina&gender=F gives her birth date as Wednesday, December 26, 1951 contradicting the information in the article. http://search.excaliburfilms.com/pornlist/starpgs/ciccioli.htm gives December 12. AxelBoldt
So Cicciolina is not dead after all! — JIP | Talk 5 July 2005 19:20 (UTC)
She was born in Hungary but became a porn star (and much more) in Italy. Should she be considered (for category purposes) a Hungarian porn star or an Italian porn star? - EdgarAllanToe 14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
As a former member of the Italian Parliament, she is styled 'Honourable Anna Ilona Staller'. Please do not remove the correct manner of address. 81.208.83.215 13:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
The title "Onorevole" (Honourable) is applied only to the actual members of the Parliament, not to the former members.Check the Italian version of the page where there's no "Honourable" applied to the name 84.222.95.52 22:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
This article should be renamed according to Wikipedia's policy to "Cicciolina", as this is Ilona Staller's stage name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.226.217.121 ( talk) 10:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
And is it a technical term? I'm completely confused. 4.248.47.106 ( talk) 18:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
This statement about rumors of Cicciolina fellating an Italian Stallion are a text book example of Wikipedia's policy of rumors about public figures. To wit:
In the case of significant public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable, third-party published sources to take material from, and Wikipedia biographies should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article.
Example
A politician is alleged to have had an affair. He denies it, but the New York Times publishes the allegations, and there is a public scandal. The allegation may belong in the biography, citing the New York Times as the source.
The two articles cited refute the rumor nearly 20 years after it appeared, so it's not appropriate to include them in the text (According to the Belfast Telegraph...) but the rumor persists and looms large in the subjects notoriety. Plus, there's basis to the rumor: the zoophilia with a horse did go down in a film she starred in, except by a different ... uhh... actress. 20:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Her first appearence in a Playboy issue was in Italian Playboy, June 1980. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.91.36.14 ( talk) 22:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
The article begins by describing Cicciolina as an "Italian politician, porn-star, and singer". In terms of notability, the order needs to be changed : She is most notable for having being a pornographic model and film performer, first and foremost, then for her brief stint in Italian politics and then as a (novelty) singer. Also, the sentence "She is famous for delivering political speeches with one breast exposed", needs to be moved from the introduction to the section about her political career.- The Gnome ( talk) 19:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: One of the most famous porn star Ilona Staller 26th November 2011th will have a 60th years. Being on the list of the Radical Party Marco Panella since 1987 until 1992 the Deputies of the Parliament of Italy, acquired the requirements to recieve a state pension of 3,000 euros a month. Happy days a well-deserved retirement, Onorevole Cicciolina. 78.2.84.129 ( talk) 20:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: A former secret agent, porn actress and politician Ilona Staller Cicciolina be spiritualy transformed. She is now retired, lives in Rome and go every Sunday to Mass at the Vatican. 78.2.47.187 ( talk) 02:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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The radio show on Radio Luna called Voulez-vous coucher avec moi? she started in 1976, not in 1973: in that year the ratio station don't existed yet, indeed it started in 1976 following the italian "free radio" fenomena, when a lot of local and indipendent radio stations started in the late 1970's. -- Il Passeggero - I love to love you 07:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IlPasseggero ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 14:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Ilona Staller → Cicciolina – This is per WP:COMMONNAME. Even the article itself says in the first sentence that she is better known as Cicciolina. Google News Search, for example, returns 12,800 results for "Cicciolina" and 2,800 for "Ilona Staller". Vanjagenije (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. sst ✈ 09:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
"Ilona the Very Best" on Bulldozer's album "IX" (1987) "Ilona has been elected" on Bulldozer's album "Neurodeliri" (1988) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.139.13.205 ( talk) 08:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Chi ha tradotto "cicciolino" con "little chubby" si è probabilmente confuso con "cicciottino". In italiano, il termine "cicciolino", così come il suo corrispondente femminile "cicciolina", viene usato come termine affettuoso, praticamente analogo a "ciccino", e molto simile a "tesoruccio", "amoruccio" ecc., e non ha nulla a che vedere con la grassezza, tanto è vero che anche il mio nipotino, che è decisamente magro, viene da me chiamato "cicciolino", in alternanza con "tesoruccio" e altri termini simili. Se uno volesse dire "little chubby", direbbe "cicciottino" ("tt" al posto di "l"), che appunto fa riferimento alla grassezza, anche se in forma attenuata e in un certo senso vezzeggiativa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.32.65.198 ( talk) 22:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
The Italian WP has her as "Ilona Staller, all'anagrafe Elena Anna Staller, nota anche con lo pseudonimo di Cicciolina" but does not give pronunciations. It might be useful to add pronunciations for Staller and Cicciolina.-- Johnsoniensis ( talk) 11:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)