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Featured articleIke Altgens is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on December 13, 2016.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 14, 2006 Peer reviewReviewed
May 12, 2006 Featured article candidatePromoted
August 3, 2010 Featured article reviewDemoted
February 11, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
March 28, 2014 Featured article candidateNot promoted
January 2, 2015 Good article nomineeListed
November 26, 2016 Featured article candidatePromoted
Current status: Featured article


Notes for editors—please read

More than 50 years later, the subject of the JFK assassination is as volatile as ever among scholars, students and researchers. For this article, I hope a few notes are agreeable.

  • This article is about Ike Altgens. Any changes by any editor, myself included, must be germane to the subject. POV of any kind must be quoted and properly cited.
  • Mr. Altgens was an accidental witness to history by all credible accounts.
  • His testimony to the FBI, the WC and to private researchers has been mostly consistent, if occasionally contradictory (as noted within the article). If there's any credible evidence of falsification of any kind, testimonial or photographic, by the man himself, I have yet to see it. (Obviously, that doesn't preclude the possibility that it exists.)
  • His images, while subject to much debate and controversy, must be discussed within his article as they pertain to him, or with careful specificity regarding what the images show. Questions, of course, have been raised as to what may or may not have been done with the images after they were made; unless credible evidence can tie any controversy to the man himself, these are arguments for assassination articles and not for Altgens'.
  • Similarly, the location and movements of Lee Harvey Oswald are only germane as they pertain to the photograph that's come to be known as Altgens No. 6—specifically, whether Oswald can be seen in the doorway. Where he said he was at that instant is relevant; where he was spotted "90 seconds later" is only barely relevant as a detail in an argument over whether Altgens' picture shows him in the doorway. Had anyone seen Oswald in transit from the sixth floor to the second floor would have been germane (not Oswald in Altgens 6); from the first floor to the second floor, possibly germane (can't rule him out of the picture); from the doorway to the second floor, definitely germane. (Of course, none of this has ever been documented as having happened.) Whether Roy Truly and Marion Baker saw him sweating or out of breath makes no difference to Altgens 6; whether he was drinking a soda, certainly not.
  • If I've done my job as an editor correctly, you have no idea whether I support one gunman or more than one, Oswald or otherwise. If Wikipedia is doing its job correctly, the reader should be presented with an article that supports nothing more than the verifiable and the relevant.

ATS 🖖  talk

FAC

I want to take a moment to thank everyone involved in the process. To represent the best of Wikipedia, an article has to be the best, and it would not be without those who have held it—and me—to their highest standards. Location, MrBill3, Redtigerxyz, John, Jo-Jo Eumerus, Sarastro1, Tony1, Wehwalt, Sagaciousphil, Ian Rose, and everyone who has contibuted, you deserve the star as much as anyone else, and the encyclopedia is all the better for it. — ATS 🖖  talk

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Featured articleIke Altgens is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on December 13, 2016.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 14, 2006 Peer reviewReviewed
May 12, 2006 Featured article candidatePromoted
August 3, 2010 Featured article reviewDemoted
February 11, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
March 28, 2014 Featured article candidateNot promoted
January 2, 2015 Good article nomineeListed
November 26, 2016 Featured article candidatePromoted
Current status: Featured article


Notes for editors—please read

More than 50 years later, the subject of the JFK assassination is as volatile as ever among scholars, students and researchers. For this article, I hope a few notes are agreeable.

  • This article is about Ike Altgens. Any changes by any editor, myself included, must be germane to the subject. POV of any kind must be quoted and properly cited.
  • Mr. Altgens was an accidental witness to history by all credible accounts.
  • His testimony to the FBI, the WC and to private researchers has been mostly consistent, if occasionally contradictory (as noted within the article). If there's any credible evidence of falsification of any kind, testimonial or photographic, by the man himself, I have yet to see it. (Obviously, that doesn't preclude the possibility that it exists.)
  • His images, while subject to much debate and controversy, must be discussed within his article as they pertain to him, or with careful specificity regarding what the images show. Questions, of course, have been raised as to what may or may not have been done with the images after they were made; unless credible evidence can tie any controversy to the man himself, these are arguments for assassination articles and not for Altgens'.
  • Similarly, the location and movements of Lee Harvey Oswald are only germane as they pertain to the photograph that's come to be known as Altgens No. 6—specifically, whether Oswald can be seen in the doorway. Where he said he was at that instant is relevant; where he was spotted "90 seconds later" is only barely relevant as a detail in an argument over whether Altgens' picture shows him in the doorway. Had anyone seen Oswald in transit from the sixth floor to the second floor would have been germane (not Oswald in Altgens 6); from the first floor to the second floor, possibly germane (can't rule him out of the picture); from the doorway to the second floor, definitely germane. (Of course, none of this has ever been documented as having happened.) Whether Roy Truly and Marion Baker saw him sweating or out of breath makes no difference to Altgens 6; whether he was drinking a soda, certainly not.
  • If I've done my job as an editor correctly, you have no idea whether I support one gunman or more than one, Oswald or otherwise. If Wikipedia is doing its job correctly, the reader should be presented with an article that supports nothing more than the verifiable and the relevant.

ATS 🖖  talk

FAC

I want to take a moment to thank everyone involved in the process. To represent the best of Wikipedia, an article has to be the best, and it would not be without those who have held it—and me—to their highest standards. Location, MrBill3, Redtigerxyz, John, Jo-Jo Eumerus, Sarastro1, Tony1, Wehwalt, Sagaciousphil, Ian Rose, and everyone who has contibuted, you deserve the star as much as anyone else, and the encyclopedia is all the better for it. — ATS 🖖  talk


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