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When this page was recreated (having been previously deleted for lack of notability), I suggested that the main source cited, the self-published Lounsbury Foundation web site, falls short of what one might hope as a WP:RS, but brought the creating editor's attention to two other 19th century sources that give substantial coverage to the subject, and would both improve the article were the information they provided to be incorporated into the article, as well as clarify that notability of the subject. Well, Wikipedia is WP:NOTCOMPULSORY, and no move was made to add this information, so I provide the sources here for anyone who has the time.

  • The life of the Rev. Adam Clarke, New York, Carleton & Co, 1859, p. 151 (This appears to largely repeat the Dublin Literary Journal article given as an unconnected citation at the bottom of the article.)
  • An account of the infancy, religious and literary life of Adam Clarke, New York:D. Appleton & Co., 1833 pp. 229-234
Agricolae ( talk) 14:58, 3 October 2019 (UTC) reply
A shame I wasn't here a year ago. I've extended the article now. I'm surprised this was deleted there is actually quite a bit published on this. Sseevv ( talk) 21:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC) reply
I have to say, I am not a huge fan of the heavy emphasis being put on his descendants - I don't think this should be a coatrack/proxy for a page on the Haggin family. e.g. that a great-great-granddaughter gave a museum a name that makes no reference to the subject of this article seems entirely incidental. And a picture of a great-grandson, or even a grandson who has his own page, seems likewise beyond the scope - we don't want articles on people with important progeny to be more about their descendants than about themselves. Agricolae ( talk) 15:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Sources

I have again removed the three citations misleadingly given for the sentence that describes the birthdate, birthplace, and paternity of I ben A, because none of them actually have the information that is found in the sentence that they are decorating. We don't cite sources just because we like the sources, and think they should be cited somewhere in the article. We do so to support the specific content that the citation follows - if the content is not found in the source, we don't cite is as if that is where the information came from. Agricolae ( talk) 20:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Improvement

When this page was recreated (having been previously deleted for lack of notability), I suggested that the main source cited, the self-published Lounsbury Foundation web site, falls short of what one might hope as a WP:RS, but brought the creating editor's attention to two other 19th century sources that give substantial coverage to the subject, and would both improve the article were the information they provided to be incorporated into the article, as well as clarify that notability of the subject. Well, Wikipedia is WP:NOTCOMPULSORY, and no move was made to add this information, so I provide the sources here for anyone who has the time.

  • The life of the Rev. Adam Clarke, New York, Carleton & Co, 1859, p. 151 (This appears to largely repeat the Dublin Literary Journal article given as an unconnected citation at the bottom of the article.)
  • An account of the infancy, religious and literary life of Adam Clarke, New York:D. Appleton & Co., 1833 pp. 229-234
Agricolae ( talk) 14:58, 3 October 2019 (UTC) reply
A shame I wasn't here a year ago. I've extended the article now. I'm surprised this was deleted there is actually quite a bit published on this. Sseevv ( talk) 21:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC) reply
I have to say, I am not a huge fan of the heavy emphasis being put on his descendants - I don't think this should be a coatrack/proxy for a page on the Haggin family. e.g. that a great-great-granddaughter gave a museum a name that makes no reference to the subject of this article seems entirely incidental. And a picture of a great-grandson, or even a grandson who has his own page, seems likewise beyond the scope - we don't want articles on people with important progeny to be more about their descendants than about themselves. Agricolae ( talk) 15:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Sources

I have again removed the three citations misleadingly given for the sentence that describes the birthdate, birthplace, and paternity of I ben A, because none of them actually have the information that is found in the sentence that they are decorating. We don't cite sources just because we like the sources, and think they should be cited somewhere in the article. We do so to support the specific content that the citation follows - if the content is not found in the source, we don't cite is as if that is where the information came from. Agricolae ( talk) 20:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC) reply


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