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Does anyone know whether ISO 5218 is used in any passports visibly or invisibly?-- Jusjih 03:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
The ISO document itself reads "not applicable" for gender 9; anda ccording to http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/gdsc/html/frames/PersonGenderCurrent.htm :
"Not applicable" has a different thrust to it than the previous "not specified": from reading this article I would think that a genuinely indeterminate human would end up in 0 "not known". But from the UK article and from the ISO standard I believe "it" should be encoded as 9. Xueexueg 15:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
To expand on the previous statement, a known hermaphrodite is not "not known" and not "not-applicable". To me, not known implies you do not know what the gender is - it could be male, female, or hermaphrodite. Not Applicable implies gender is not relevant. Hence, these terms do not accomodate hermaphrodites (and the various combinations thereof). Mingramh ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I know this is not the forum for this comment, it should go to ISO, but SEX is not the best term for this field. In English, gender would be more appropriate since sex also refers to the physical act. Mingramh ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Superseded by 2022 version. As always, it's not publicly available on the internet, and the text is copyrightet. https://www.iso.org/standard/81682.html 2001:A61:BE9:1401:DDF8:6419:D0FB:B763 ( talk) 12:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. |
Does anyone know whether ISO 5218 is used in any passports visibly or invisibly?-- Jusjih 03:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
The ISO document itself reads "not applicable" for gender 9; anda ccording to http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/gdsc/html/frames/PersonGenderCurrent.htm :
"Not applicable" has a different thrust to it than the previous "not specified": from reading this article I would think that a genuinely indeterminate human would end up in 0 "not known". But from the UK article and from the ISO standard I believe "it" should be encoded as 9. Xueexueg 15:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
To expand on the previous statement, a known hermaphrodite is not "not known" and not "not-applicable". To me, not known implies you do not know what the gender is - it could be male, female, or hermaphrodite. Not Applicable implies gender is not relevant. Hence, these terms do not accomodate hermaphrodites (and the various combinations thereof). Mingramh ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I know this is not the forum for this comment, it should go to ISO, but SEX is not the best term for this field. In English, gender would be more appropriate since sex also refers to the physical act. Mingramh ( talk) 12:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Superseded by 2022 version. As always, it's not publicly available on the internet, and the text is copyrightet. https://www.iso.org/standard/81682.html 2001:A61:BE9:1401:DDF8:6419:D0FB:B763 ( talk) 12:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)