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Which countries use which networks the most?
Perhaps also user demographics? Mention how many open source hackers use IRC as a central point for instant chat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.223.20.123 ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I consider it to be the next generation IRC. What's the general consensus? Also, the article doesn't comment on what IRC is being replaced with (facebook, msn, et al) or its social impact (away from many-to-many chatrooms and into one-to-one chats), which fosters individuality as opposed to sociability - if that makes any sense. Nor does it mention who is still using IRC (techies and weirdos - in a good way). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.60.3.245 ( talk) 15:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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I know virtually nothing about IRC, and after reading the article, I'm still a bit confused by a lot of the big picture questions.
I infer/assume that a network is composed of servers, and that channels are either local to a server (&) or span across the entire network (#). Channels can not span networks, though (I'm unsure of this). Clients themselves connect to a server, but the choice of server is mostly down to latency and server-only channels, as any server can access any network-wide channel in that network.
Is that right?
205.166.76.15 ( talk) 22:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
A network is a cluster of individual servers. When you want to connect to a network, you choose a server thats best for you based on latency. There are many different networks out there all run by different people. Much like there are different websites. What theyre trying to say I think is that # is a network wide channel, meaning it doesnt matter what server you connect to within the network, all the channels text will be displayed the same on every server. Whereas if it was just local (&), youd only see it if you are connected to the same server, and there could be many of the same channel, with different users on one network. Just on different servers. Its kind of moot to say that it doesnt broadcast to other peoples networks. You can pretty much assume that. It would be like saying that me posting here isnt going to show up on someone elses wikipedia. I guess its just there to confuse people.
Also another thing that I thought was kind of moot is this line
with hundreds of thousands of channels (the vast majority of which stand mostly vacant)
The second part kind of cancels out the importantce of the first statement. Why even include the statement. Might as well just worry about the number of networks and users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.71.178 ( talk) 16:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
RE: Modern IRC unsourced material box: As far as I know, much of this information is common knowledge. Depending on your definition of "modern" (2k+ vs -2k?), sources for the services data can be found on this page. -- 68.183.131.94 ( talk) 19:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
"as well as chat and data transfers via Direct Client-to-Client." I don't really think thats a feature of IRC. The on DCC info sent through the IRC server is that someone wants to DCC you (which is done through a NOTICE) JV Smithy ( talk) 00:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC).
The article seems pretty light on the history of IRC, conspicuously lacking information about the original IRC network ( EFnet), the significance of ircII (especially the 2.8.1 release). I understand that finding reliable sources will be a challenge, though. :( // Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I think that, short of reliable sources, we could use what we have. A canonical source would be this list of links, including a history of first days of IRC from the creator. A more complete history is provided by Daniel Stenberg, which could be a good basis for a summary here, and the license is liberal "Feel free to link to this page or host it elsewhere. Please keep me credited as author." Parts of the history can be corroborated with this snippet which also brings an interesting perspective in the history of the IRC protocol by putting in context with other programs. Then there's the great split of 1996, where the EFNet/IRCNet split happened. Then there's more recent history, where we see a distinct decline of IRC users, except for a growth in Freenode. Some mentions of Jabber and Slack would also probably be in order. this article was an interesting read for me. -- TheAnarcat ( talk) 14:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
I decided to be just bold and import Stenberg's article as a basis for a new history section, keeping existing references and trying to remove less historically relevant bits and pieces. I skipped over the livinginternet snippets for now and have mentionned Jabber but not slack, for lack of external references...-- TheAnarcat ( talk) 15:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Can this section be tidied or clarified a little? In the 'User Modes' section, there are four modes which are 'Channel User Modes' (+q,+o,+h,+v), however +o and +v are also listed in the 'Channel Modes' section.
Something else to note there, is that RFC 1459 does not contain the concept of a 'Channel Owner' (+q) or a 'Half-Op' (+h), so for factual accuracy these should be removed, or added to another small section of common non-rfc modes. FrostyCoolSlug ( talk) 13:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Does IRC support images? Can images be transferred over IRC? Is support for display of images dependent on the client? -- Azemocram ( talk) 23:52, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
IRC doesn't support images, some irc clients may turn image url's or send image files into images in chat, but irc itself doesn't support images. (for the record i'm refering to mIRC here, that client doesn't support any images in chat (aside from links)) 194.151.100.206 ( talk) 09:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
since you gave a "reference" for the biggest IRC networks shouldn't we change the big four to the actual big four as you partially did? I mean the (our) list is incorrect... (I don't have access to any computer at the moment, will come back constantly in a week or so) mabdul 13:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Network | Users | Channels | Servers | Average |
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QuakeNet | 79142 | 59641 | 42 | 198244536924 |
IRCnet | 64540 | 37562 | 34 | 82424550320 |
Undernet | 51419 | 16478 | 22 | 18640210204 |
Ustream | 46358 | 5803 | 12 | 5649324954 |
EFnet | 40991 | 20039 | 50 | 41070932450 |
Rizon | 18172 | 19921 | 17 | 6154075004 |
DALnet | 17883 | 8553 | 42 | 6424038558 |
WebChat | 15566 | 2001 | 6 | 186885396 |
IRC-Hispano | 15332 | 6360 | 32 | 3120368640 |
FCirc | 12603 | 15430 | 8 | 1555714320 |
Recently I had an incident of which I randomly joined the #freenode server. I was in chat when the #freenode server just came up. It happened about 6 times before I just left the server open. Can I get an elaboration? Tez011 ( talk) 14:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
The word "opered" is jargon that is not explained, and its meaning is not entirely clear from context. In its first usage, it appears to be a typo for "opened." IAbookman ( talk) 14:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 02:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Internet Relay Chat → Internet relay chat –
Per WP:CAPS and WP:TITLE: this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased. In addition, WP:MOS says that a compound item should not be upper-cased just because it is abbreviated with caps. Matches the formatting of related article titles. Tony (talk) 04:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
No one would say, "I was on the Internet last night, using relay chat", because it's unidiomatic. You'd say, "I was using Internet relay chat last night"; even then, we usually abbreviate it, orally, so the examples are slightly awkward. Similarly, an ISP (that's " Internet service provider", not "Internet Service Provider", even though someone originally coined the term) probably wouldn't say to a potential customer that they need an asymmetric digital subscriber line connection; they'd refer to "an ADSL connection". We upcase acronyms and initialisms, but many style guides, including our own, say not to reverse-engineer the upcased abbreviation when expanding the item, unless of course it really is a proper noun. IRC is just a technical term now, given that it's a whole class of technologies, not the original one. Tony (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
An editor has suggested a link to the IRC-Galleria article ("the largest social networking website in Finland") be included in the See Also section of this article. I do not believe the link belongs here, any more than does, say, a link to 4chan or Facebook. Perhaps it should be listed on the IRC dab page (and it may be; I've not looked), but I do not believe it belongs in this article.
I reverted the addition of the link for this reason. Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 03:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
An editor (the same one who tried to add IRC-Galleria to the EL list) has added an "over detailed" and "condense" tag to the beginning of this article. I disagree, but am not uninvolved, so I would like other opinions.
This page attempts to cover a technical topic and has roughly the same number of sections and level of detail as do the HTTP and FTP pages. I don't see that as problematic.
Anyone have any thoughts? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 14:28, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
The list of "Big Four" has changed. Now freenode has passed most networks from the old Big Four currently described. EFNet is way under freenode, Undernet, QuakeNet and IRCNet. So maybe we don't have a Big Five, but really a new Big Four with freenode instead of EFNet.
Then again, size measures are subjective and we would need references to support a current version. Is it worth it? I am on IRC 24/7 for years and I never heard of the "Big Four" except on Wikipedia. Is it a useful, known concept that is worth covering here? -- Chealer ( talk) 17:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Following code does not belong in the main article because it is presumptive in nature, includes "you" statements and violates MOS. Copied and pasted from unsourced text file or Web site
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/26d0b8c3bfdb0d6e20934a9fea2e8eb3.png
It would be nice if who ever created this image would learn how to edit images. And then maybe create a new image where the key isn't included or at least isn't screwed up to where we can't use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.254.154.93 ( talk) 04:27, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
can some one replace this image? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-XChat-_Moniker42_@_FreeNode_-_-ubuntuforums_(%2Btn)-1.png, its kinda insulting 194.151.100.206 ( talk) 09:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Why the article doesn't got all the user mode nick prefix symbols? -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 21:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
IRC is seeing a resurgence thanks to twitch.tv. Thankfully I have been on IRC before twitch's time so I can see the evolution first-hand. If anybody thinks they need to add anything, type away. Thanks, ian. 137.124.161.17 ( talk) 02:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Here are 3 articles that are very similar: - Internet Relay Chat script - IRC bot - Internet Relay Chat services
While I know there are technical differences between these 3 things, it seems like having this material spread out over 4 articles (if you also include Internet Relay Chat) is unhelpful.
Also, what's up with the arbitrary choice of "IRC" vs "Internet Relay Chat"? For pretty much all articles of the form "Internet Relay Chat ____", I believe "IRC _____" is probably more suitable. (See ex. TCP congestion control)
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By my diligent count there are around 1500-1800 actual human users on Efnet, the remainder are various botnets, clones, and zombie BNC or screened irssi instances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:63:C297:5000:9DA6:689E:5BB6:9FD5 ( talk) 16:19, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I think it’s time this man got a wiki page. His twitter bio is a good source of information but but I also have other knowledge on him. For example he calls his fans little stinkers because when he was a young child he thought it would be funny to throw his dogs faeces into a fan. His mother proceeded to call him a little stinker until the age of 13. Lil Chips ( talk) 20:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Are family members allowed to edit? In my particular case, my brother is on Wikipedia but I'm his sister, and there are much information that is incorrect. I understand that I have to be neutral, and not bias. JaraLynn ( talk) 21:27, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
KaiOS, the feature phone Linux operating system, has no IRC clients available, so I was wondering if this statement is still true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.218.135 ( talk) 16:25, 10 October 2018 (UTC) Well, KaiOS is used by 135 Million people worldwide. That's a lot of people, but I think that it's not that big compared to the likes of Microsoft Windows and Apple macOS (1.5 billion and 100 million, respectively, not accounting for people with Boot Camp or owning both a Mac and PC). Also, there are IRC clients run over the web, like KiwiIRC, so a KaiOS user could use that. However, it'd be clunky even with T9 autotype and voice dictation. XxBradMacxX ( talk) 23:58, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
I found it difficult to submit my article which I contributed Abubakar Zaria ( talk) 10:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I am deeply troubled how I might be perceived in my good intentions to make facts on Wikipedia for the better and safety of other people. Due to my Autism and intellectual delay the way I understand things and how I communicate can be greatly misunderstood by others, I am now going to declose my concerns to you as I feel some users will misunderstand my concerns if there not aware of things. I recently edited O'Donovan page as I felt I contributed to the page in a positive manner, I felt when it was edited that someone may have had a grudge against the family because of the removal so in turn because of that I said O'Donovan family should only edit because I felt they was under attack this was my understanding. I then looked further in to Wikipedia policy and stopped editing after advice. Secondly I was shocked to find a user called orangemike beileved there might of by death threats in edits. Firstly, I am a victim of people who have targeted me in the past who have tried to exploit me and others like me, I am a religious person and I have an understanding in Safeguarding vulnerable adults which I am. When I was editing the page khawarij sect I felt I had to remove the connection between Salafism and the Khawarij as these are two different sects. Although some Khawaraji have used the guise of Salafism they also have used the guise in Deobandis. So when there is information connected to a sect that is religiously not connected and Muslims have called against them, it makes me and others feel fear that our friends could be targeted although law-abiding worshipers could be viewed like the khawaraji and someone bring harm to us. I have to put that out there because people who might not like muslims might see information with a connection to sects and target the mosques and that's my concern if you don't think that's a reality it had been such as someone who attacked a mosque in London because they felt it was an extremist mosque which it was not. These are my concerns and I feel they are been misunderstood. IrishDonovan ( talk) 10:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
irssi.org:
" Irssi Chat Client. Your text mode chatting application since 1999. IRC built-in. Multi-protocol friendly for module authors. Shipped-by-default Perl scripting with a wide range of available extensions. Integrates into the UNIX stack: Your window manager, your terminal emulator, your remote connection, your terminal multiplexer, your IRC bouncer, your IRC adapter."
https://irc-source.com/ form the external links does not seem to work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaganyik ( talk • contribs) 01:15, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
It seems the image of the first IRC server doesn't actually display what it says it does. Has the server been in a strange case or something? It seems to have an Apple logo on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTheSaint ( talk • contribs) 05:52, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Internet Relay Chat → IRC – Per WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:ACROTITLE, this acronym is primarily used for this subject and the subject is primarily referred to by its acronym. PhotographyEdits ( talk) 11:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
In general, if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognise the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a title." - Ljleppan ( talk) 12:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
The importance of IRC is that it was one of the first examples of a tool/platform that enabled, relatively easily, "hosting side" or "Service side" capabilities to non-corporate nonprofessionals with home client hardware with a residential internet connection. The clients incorporated sufficient built in, usually GUI-based or GUI-facilitated, functionality to provide rudimentary channel hosting capabilities (Ableit lacking the ability to effectively host your own network). No need to know how to script HTML or any other coding. Additionally, it was the 1st example of a wide-spread avaible "realtime interactive" chat/communications environment.
in fact, the "Realtime chat" concept, is *still* a relatively minimally used and minimally developed field of technology to the point that this functionality CONTINUES TO BE a major reason why people still seek out IRC (that, and being old crusty neckbeards angrily dismissive of change; PROTIP: you have an exceptionally high likelihood of finding an operational CRT monitor in the home of a heavy user of IRC in '24)
the ability to use IRC for this tyhpe of relationship (in which the "user" is another residential internet connected user just like the "host" with a very "symmetrical" arrangement of resources) also allowed it to be used for some of its more notorious applications.
notably: IRC was used extensively by military in-theater users, for battlefield intelligence reporting and command and control, purportedly during the baltic wars and the 1st gulf war, in addition to other smaller conflicts that don't have "war" names attached to them. Even in the mid 1990s, laptops existed and since IRC could be used with the bandwidth provided by modem interfaced to an RJ-12 opper wire phone, nascent cellular phone, or satellite phone it meant it could be used almost anywhere in the world to send reports back to a base of operations.
in addition, it also enabled the early hackers to perform realtime command and control of infected computers. The old "botnets" were almost always controlled by headless IRC clients, leading to the policy of blocking various IRC ports in the earliest retail SOHO routers. 67.165.122.133 ( talk) 00:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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Which countries use which networks the most?
Perhaps also user demographics? Mention how many open source hackers use IRC as a central point for instant chat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.223.20.123 ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I consider it to be the next generation IRC. What's the general consensus? Also, the article doesn't comment on what IRC is being replaced with (facebook, msn, et al) or its social impact (away from many-to-many chatrooms and into one-to-one chats), which fosters individuality as opposed to sociability - if that makes any sense. Nor does it mention who is still using IRC (techies and weirdos - in a good way). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.60.3.245 ( talk) 15:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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I know virtually nothing about IRC, and after reading the article, I'm still a bit confused by a lot of the big picture questions.
I infer/assume that a network is composed of servers, and that channels are either local to a server (&) or span across the entire network (#). Channels can not span networks, though (I'm unsure of this). Clients themselves connect to a server, but the choice of server is mostly down to latency and server-only channels, as any server can access any network-wide channel in that network.
Is that right?
205.166.76.15 ( talk) 22:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
A network is a cluster of individual servers. When you want to connect to a network, you choose a server thats best for you based on latency. There are many different networks out there all run by different people. Much like there are different websites. What theyre trying to say I think is that # is a network wide channel, meaning it doesnt matter what server you connect to within the network, all the channels text will be displayed the same on every server. Whereas if it was just local (&), youd only see it if you are connected to the same server, and there could be many of the same channel, with different users on one network. Just on different servers. Its kind of moot to say that it doesnt broadcast to other peoples networks. You can pretty much assume that. It would be like saying that me posting here isnt going to show up on someone elses wikipedia. I guess its just there to confuse people.
Also another thing that I thought was kind of moot is this line
with hundreds of thousands of channels (the vast majority of which stand mostly vacant)
The second part kind of cancels out the importantce of the first statement. Why even include the statement. Might as well just worry about the number of networks and users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.71.178 ( talk) 16:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
RE: Modern IRC unsourced material box: As far as I know, much of this information is common knowledge. Depending on your definition of "modern" (2k+ vs -2k?), sources for the services data can be found on this page. -- 68.183.131.94 ( talk) 19:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
"as well as chat and data transfers via Direct Client-to-Client." I don't really think thats a feature of IRC. The on DCC info sent through the IRC server is that someone wants to DCC you (which is done through a NOTICE) JV Smithy ( talk) 00:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC).
The article seems pretty light on the history of IRC, conspicuously lacking information about the original IRC network ( EFnet), the significance of ircII (especially the 2.8.1 release). I understand that finding reliable sources will be a challenge, though. :( // Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I think that, short of reliable sources, we could use what we have. A canonical source would be this list of links, including a history of first days of IRC from the creator. A more complete history is provided by Daniel Stenberg, which could be a good basis for a summary here, and the license is liberal "Feel free to link to this page or host it elsewhere. Please keep me credited as author." Parts of the history can be corroborated with this snippet which also brings an interesting perspective in the history of the IRC protocol by putting in context with other programs. Then there's the great split of 1996, where the EFNet/IRCNet split happened. Then there's more recent history, where we see a distinct decline of IRC users, except for a growth in Freenode. Some mentions of Jabber and Slack would also probably be in order. this article was an interesting read for me. -- TheAnarcat ( talk) 14:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
I decided to be just bold and import Stenberg's article as a basis for a new history section, keeping existing references and trying to remove less historically relevant bits and pieces. I skipped over the livinginternet snippets for now and have mentionned Jabber but not slack, for lack of external references...-- TheAnarcat ( talk) 15:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Can this section be tidied or clarified a little? In the 'User Modes' section, there are four modes which are 'Channel User Modes' (+q,+o,+h,+v), however +o and +v are also listed in the 'Channel Modes' section.
Something else to note there, is that RFC 1459 does not contain the concept of a 'Channel Owner' (+q) or a 'Half-Op' (+h), so for factual accuracy these should be removed, or added to another small section of common non-rfc modes. FrostyCoolSlug ( talk) 13:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Does IRC support images? Can images be transferred over IRC? Is support for display of images dependent on the client? -- Azemocram ( talk) 23:52, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
IRC doesn't support images, some irc clients may turn image url's or send image files into images in chat, but irc itself doesn't support images. (for the record i'm refering to mIRC here, that client doesn't support any images in chat (aside from links)) 194.151.100.206 ( talk) 09:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
since you gave a "reference" for the biggest IRC networks shouldn't we change the big four to the actual big four as you partially did? I mean the (our) list is incorrect... (I don't have access to any computer at the moment, will come back constantly in a week or so) mabdul 13:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Network | Users | Channels | Servers | Average |
---|---|---|---|---|
QuakeNet | 79142 | 59641 | 42 | 198244536924 |
IRCnet | 64540 | 37562 | 34 | 82424550320 |
Undernet | 51419 | 16478 | 22 | 18640210204 |
Ustream | 46358 | 5803 | 12 | 5649324954 |
EFnet | 40991 | 20039 | 50 | 41070932450 |
Rizon | 18172 | 19921 | 17 | 6154075004 |
DALnet | 17883 | 8553 | 42 | 6424038558 |
WebChat | 15566 | 2001 | 6 | 186885396 |
IRC-Hispano | 15332 | 6360 | 32 | 3120368640 |
FCirc | 12603 | 15430 | 8 | 1555714320 |
Recently I had an incident of which I randomly joined the #freenode server. I was in chat when the #freenode server just came up. It happened about 6 times before I just left the server open. Can I get an elaboration? Tez011 ( talk) 14:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
The word "opered" is jargon that is not explained, and its meaning is not entirely clear from context. In its first usage, it appears to be a typo for "opened." IAbookman ( talk) 14:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 02:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Internet Relay Chat → Internet relay chat –
Per WP:CAPS and WP:TITLE: this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased. In addition, WP:MOS says that a compound item should not be upper-cased just because it is abbreviated with caps. Matches the formatting of related article titles. Tony (talk) 04:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
No one would say, "I was on the Internet last night, using relay chat", because it's unidiomatic. You'd say, "I was using Internet relay chat last night"; even then, we usually abbreviate it, orally, so the examples are slightly awkward. Similarly, an ISP (that's " Internet service provider", not "Internet Service Provider", even though someone originally coined the term) probably wouldn't say to a potential customer that they need an asymmetric digital subscriber line connection; they'd refer to "an ADSL connection". We upcase acronyms and initialisms, but many style guides, including our own, say not to reverse-engineer the upcased abbreviation when expanding the item, unless of course it really is a proper noun. IRC is just a technical term now, given that it's a whole class of technologies, not the original one. Tony (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
An editor has suggested a link to the IRC-Galleria article ("the largest social networking website in Finland") be included in the See Also section of this article. I do not believe the link belongs here, any more than does, say, a link to 4chan or Facebook. Perhaps it should be listed on the IRC dab page (and it may be; I've not looked), but I do not believe it belongs in this article.
I reverted the addition of the link for this reason. Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 03:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
An editor (the same one who tried to add IRC-Galleria to the EL list) has added an "over detailed" and "condense" tag to the beginning of this article. I disagree, but am not uninvolved, so I would like other opinions.
This page attempts to cover a technical topic and has roughly the same number of sections and level of detail as do the HTTP and FTP pages. I don't see that as problematic.
Anyone have any thoughts? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 14:28, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
The list of "Big Four" has changed. Now freenode has passed most networks from the old Big Four currently described. EFNet is way under freenode, Undernet, QuakeNet and IRCNet. So maybe we don't have a Big Five, but really a new Big Four with freenode instead of EFNet.
Then again, size measures are subjective and we would need references to support a current version. Is it worth it? I am on IRC 24/7 for years and I never heard of the "Big Four" except on Wikipedia. Is it a useful, known concept that is worth covering here? -- Chealer ( talk) 17:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Following code does not belong in the main article because it is presumptive in nature, includes "you" statements and violates MOS. Copied and pasted from unsourced text file or Web site
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.25.199 ( talk) 03:19, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/26d0b8c3bfdb0d6e20934a9fea2e8eb3.png
It would be nice if who ever created this image would learn how to edit images. And then maybe create a new image where the key isn't included or at least isn't screwed up to where we can't use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.254.154.93 ( talk) 04:27, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
can some one replace this image? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-XChat-_Moniker42_@_FreeNode_-_-ubuntuforums_(%2Btn)-1.png, its kinda insulting 194.151.100.206 ( talk) 09:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Why the article doesn't got all the user mode nick prefix symbols? -- TiagoTiago ( talk) 21:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
IRC is seeing a resurgence thanks to twitch.tv. Thankfully I have been on IRC before twitch's time so I can see the evolution first-hand. If anybody thinks they need to add anything, type away. Thanks, ian. 137.124.161.17 ( talk) 02:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Here are 3 articles that are very similar: - Internet Relay Chat script - IRC bot - Internet Relay Chat services
While I know there are technical differences between these 3 things, it seems like having this material spread out over 4 articles (if you also include Internet Relay Chat) is unhelpful.
Also, what's up with the arbitrary choice of "IRC" vs "Internet Relay Chat"? For pretty much all articles of the form "Internet Relay Chat ____", I believe "IRC _____" is probably more suitable. (See ex. TCP congestion control)
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.172.70.34 ( talk) 04:50, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
By my diligent count there are around 1500-1800 actual human users on Efnet, the remainder are various botnets, clones, and zombie BNC or screened irssi instances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:63:C297:5000:9DA6:689E:5BB6:9FD5 ( talk) 16:19, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I think it’s time this man got a wiki page. His twitter bio is a good source of information but but I also have other knowledge on him. For example he calls his fans little stinkers because when he was a young child he thought it would be funny to throw his dogs faeces into a fan. His mother proceeded to call him a little stinker until the age of 13. Lil Chips ( talk) 20:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Are family members allowed to edit? In my particular case, my brother is on Wikipedia but I'm his sister, and there are much information that is incorrect. I understand that I have to be neutral, and not bias. JaraLynn ( talk) 21:27, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
KaiOS, the feature phone Linux operating system, has no IRC clients available, so I was wondering if this statement is still true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.218.135 ( talk) 16:25, 10 October 2018 (UTC) Well, KaiOS is used by 135 Million people worldwide. That's a lot of people, but I think that it's not that big compared to the likes of Microsoft Windows and Apple macOS (1.5 billion and 100 million, respectively, not accounting for people with Boot Camp or owning both a Mac and PC). Also, there are IRC clients run over the web, like KiwiIRC, so a KaiOS user could use that. However, it'd be clunky even with T9 autotype and voice dictation. XxBradMacxX ( talk) 23:58, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
I found it difficult to submit my article which I contributed Abubakar Zaria ( talk) 10:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
I am deeply troubled how I might be perceived in my good intentions to make facts on Wikipedia for the better and safety of other people. Due to my Autism and intellectual delay the way I understand things and how I communicate can be greatly misunderstood by others, I am now going to declose my concerns to you as I feel some users will misunderstand my concerns if there not aware of things. I recently edited O'Donovan page as I felt I contributed to the page in a positive manner, I felt when it was edited that someone may have had a grudge against the family because of the removal so in turn because of that I said O'Donovan family should only edit because I felt they was under attack this was my understanding. I then looked further in to Wikipedia policy and stopped editing after advice. Secondly I was shocked to find a user called orangemike beileved there might of by death threats in edits. Firstly, I am a victim of people who have targeted me in the past who have tried to exploit me and others like me, I am a religious person and I have an understanding in Safeguarding vulnerable adults which I am. When I was editing the page khawarij sect I felt I had to remove the connection between Salafism and the Khawarij as these are two different sects. Although some Khawaraji have used the guise of Salafism they also have used the guise in Deobandis. So when there is information connected to a sect that is religiously not connected and Muslims have called against them, it makes me and others feel fear that our friends could be targeted although law-abiding worshipers could be viewed like the khawaraji and someone bring harm to us. I have to put that out there because people who might not like muslims might see information with a connection to sects and target the mosques and that's my concern if you don't think that's a reality it had been such as someone who attacked a mosque in London because they felt it was an extremist mosque which it was not. These are my concerns and I feel they are been misunderstood. IrishDonovan ( talk) 10:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
irssi.org:
" Irssi Chat Client. Your text mode chatting application since 1999. IRC built-in. Multi-protocol friendly for module authors. Shipped-by-default Perl scripting with a wide range of available extensions. Integrates into the UNIX stack: Your window manager, your terminal emulator, your remote connection, your terminal multiplexer, your IRC bouncer, your IRC adapter."
https://irc-source.com/ form the external links does not seem to work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaganyik ( talk • contribs) 01:15, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
It seems the image of the first IRC server doesn't actually display what it says it does. Has the server been in a strange case or something? It seems to have an Apple logo on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTheSaint ( talk • contribs) 05:52, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect AccessIRC and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 30#AccessIRC until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 16:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect IRC networj and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 1#IRC networj until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 22:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Internet Relay Chat → IRC – Per WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:ACROTITLE, this acronym is primarily used for this subject and the subject is primarily referred to by its acronym. PhotographyEdits ( talk) 11:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
In general, if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognise the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a title." - Ljleppan ( talk) 12:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
The importance of IRC is that it was one of the first examples of a tool/platform that enabled, relatively easily, "hosting side" or "Service side" capabilities to non-corporate nonprofessionals with home client hardware with a residential internet connection. The clients incorporated sufficient built in, usually GUI-based or GUI-facilitated, functionality to provide rudimentary channel hosting capabilities (Ableit lacking the ability to effectively host your own network). No need to know how to script HTML or any other coding. Additionally, it was the 1st example of a wide-spread avaible "realtime interactive" chat/communications environment.
in fact, the "Realtime chat" concept, is *still* a relatively minimally used and minimally developed field of technology to the point that this functionality CONTINUES TO BE a major reason why people still seek out IRC (that, and being old crusty neckbeards angrily dismissive of change; PROTIP: you have an exceptionally high likelihood of finding an operational CRT monitor in the home of a heavy user of IRC in '24)
the ability to use IRC for this tyhpe of relationship (in which the "user" is another residential internet connected user just like the "host" with a very "symmetrical" arrangement of resources) also allowed it to be used for some of its more notorious applications.
notably: IRC was used extensively by military in-theater users, for battlefield intelligence reporting and command and control, purportedly during the baltic wars and the 1st gulf war, in addition to other smaller conflicts that don't have "war" names attached to them. Even in the mid 1990s, laptops existed and since IRC could be used with the bandwidth provided by modem interfaced to an RJ-12 opper wire phone, nascent cellular phone, or satellite phone it meant it could be used almost anywhere in the world to send reports back to a base of operations.
in addition, it also enabled the early hackers to perform realtime command and control of infected computers. The old "botnets" were almost always controlled by headless IRC clients, leading to the policy of blocking various IRC ports in the earliest retail SOHO routers. 67.165.122.133 ( talk) 00:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)