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I think this article should be merged with Utah-BYU rivalry.
Swordplay227 22:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree-- Nate 03:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I vote for the merger Howdythere 07:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
It's silly to have two articles so similar. I vote yes for a merger. Jturney 01:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather it went the other way. Most other rivalries are listed by their nicknames. ASigIAm213
There needs to be some consensus on the logo placement. I have seen the order change several times in the last few months and it just seems unnecessary. Just because one logo is first doesn't mean one team is better than the other. Let's make a decision on order. I have a few ideas:
If anyone has any other ideas or wants to vote on the outcome, just add something below. -- Glennfcowan 17:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Historic dates mean more than just "oh so and so won". There needs to more to them than that. The following are not* "historic dates":
They were just games that, like many college football games, were exciting to watch but not really significant. Who cares if Utah won for a third straight year? Or if Staley made a last minute run? Or even if the game went down to the wire? They way I hear it the BYU-Utah game is almost always decided by less than a touchdown. So can someone tell me why the above were listed as "historic dates"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.31.192 ( talk) 07:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 19:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
The Deseret First Duel became a major part of the Utah v. BYU rivalry, beginning in 2007. Perhaps either a new article or new section to the Holy War page should be made. Thoughts? Xynariz ( talk) 17:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should add an infobox about the rivalry. No official one exists as far as I can tell, but some articles do have one. See:
Backyard Brawl,
Michigan – Ohio State rivalry
UteFan16 (
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User 174.23.77.124 added a "Last 10 games" column on the series history chart. I thought this added clutter without any commensurate addition in information. Furthermore, none of the other rivalry pages I looked at appeared to have this column. See, e.g. Commonwealth Cup, Backyard Brawl, Michigan – Ohio State rivalry, or Notre Dame – USC rivalry. — Ute in DC ( talk) 06:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the history of this page, there seems to be dispute as to a nickname for the 2009 game. "Second overtime" is one proposition, "George is still running" another. Others include "Touchdown, by George!".
Also, should the 2009 game even be mentioned? Is it notable enough? Maybe only due to Max Hall's post-game comments? Hillshum| Talk 06:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
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I just removed the line "mainly because BYU is such a better school" from the article. Remember people, no bias in Wikipedia articles. Cr@$h3d@t@ t@1k t0 m3 23:22, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
I think that the subheadings in the Series History section of the article should be changed to be more encyclopedic. For example, "Jim McMahon says, "Scoreboard" should be changed to something like "1980: BYU wins 56-6." BajaChikn ( talk) 05:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
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I think this article should be merged with Utah-BYU rivalry.
Swordplay227 22:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree-- Nate 03:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I vote for the merger Howdythere 07:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
It's silly to have two articles so similar. I vote yes for a merger. Jturney 01:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather it went the other way. Most other rivalries are listed by their nicknames. ASigIAm213
There needs to be some consensus on the logo placement. I have seen the order change several times in the last few months and it just seems unnecessary. Just because one logo is first doesn't mean one team is better than the other. Let's make a decision on order. I have a few ideas:
If anyone has any other ideas or wants to vote on the outcome, just add something below. -- Glennfcowan 17:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Historic dates mean more than just "oh so and so won". There needs to more to them than that. The following are not* "historic dates":
They were just games that, like many college football games, were exciting to watch but not really significant. Who cares if Utah won for a third straight year? Or if Staley made a last minute run? Or even if the game went down to the wire? They way I hear it the BYU-Utah game is almost always decided by less than a touchdown. So can someone tell me why the above were listed as "historic dates"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.31.192 ( talk) 07:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
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The Deseret First Duel became a major part of the Utah v. BYU rivalry, beginning in 2007. Perhaps either a new article or new section to the Holy War page should be made. Thoughts? Xynariz ( talk) 17:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should add an infobox about the rivalry. No official one exists as far as I can tell, but some articles do have one. See:
Backyard Brawl,
Michigan – Ohio State rivalry
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talk) 23:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
User 174.23.77.124 added a "Last 10 games" column on the series history chart. I thought this added clutter without any commensurate addition in information. Furthermore, none of the other rivalry pages I looked at appeared to have this column. See, e.g. Commonwealth Cup, Backyard Brawl, Michigan – Ohio State rivalry, or Notre Dame – USC rivalry. — Ute in DC ( talk) 06:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the history of this page, there seems to be dispute as to a nickname for the 2009 game. "Second overtime" is one proposition, "George is still running" another. Others include "Touchdown, by George!".
Also, should the 2009 game even be mentioned? Is it notable enough? Maybe only due to Max Hall's post-game comments? Hillshum| Talk 06:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
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I just removed the line "mainly because BYU is such a better school" from the article. Remember people, no bias in Wikipedia articles. Cr@$h3d@t@ t@1k t0 m3 23:22, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
I think that the subheadings in the Series History section of the article should be changed to be more encyclopedic. For example, "Jim McMahon says, "Scoreboard" should be changed to something like "1980: BYU wins 56-6." BajaChikn ( talk) 05:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)