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Just adding my 2 cents to what many are already saying. As a practicing general herbalist in the US, I also find this article to be at best full of negative tone and statements, and at worst full of poor sourcing and gross inaccuracy. Really a slap to the face to all of my time studying medicinal plants at Cornell. Seems that there are lots of folks here that are better word smiths than I, so I'm looking forward to revisiting to see the edits and corrections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.247.255.213 ( talk) 23:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
What is herbal medicine ?? The introduction does not describe what herbal medicine is, it only describes what it is not. Very Funny
I would love to hear your thoughts on these questions. Nosferattus ( talk) 00:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Here is my proposal for a new version of the first paragraph that addresses some of the problems mentioned above:
Herbal medicine or herbalism is the practice and use of plants as a basis of medicine. Herbalism covers a wide variety of practices – from phytomedicine or phytotherapy [1] to pseudoscientific (paraherbalism). [2] The practice of herbalism dates back over centuries and is a major component of traditional medicine. Herbalism is also related to pharmacognosy – the study of plants or other natural sources as a possible source of drugs. [2] The scope of herbal medicine may include fungal and bee products, as well as minerals, shells, and certain animal parts.
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Nosferattus ( talk) 17:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Appropriately, plants are mentioned repeatedly on this page, but mushrooms and other fungi are not. I hope this can be appropriately remedied. 2603:7080:7B06:2A00:90C:2B7B:1A8:8551 ( talk) 20:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
-safety and efficacy The second sentence on safety and efficacy is entirely editorialized and does not reflect the source, as well as falsely labeling the criticism of the herbal market as the criticism of herbalism itself, I would like to use my wording instead as it accurately represents the source and provides both better wording and more information on the criticism of herbalism and the herbal market
-market criticism I was never told why this is removed but I’d like to add it as its informative criticism of the herbal market which used the sources in the above sentence, I don’t know what to counterpoint as I was never told why it was removed
-Paraherbalism Again I was never told why this was removed, I used the source which uses Varro Eugene Tyler who coined the term for the addition of the pharmaceutical conspiracy, I don’t know what to counterpoint as I was never told why this was removed, I find it more informative and accurately representing the source Bobisland ( talk) 14:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
I think this article article has a pretty poor bias for herbal medicine, it just completly shames the entire use of it and ignores that reliable sources don't necasarily condone it. https://medlineplus.gov/herbalmedicine.html https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/herbal-medicine This gov source states how you should "Talk to your doctor first before using it" and that it and isn't exactly bad. They state that many herbal medicines come with it's bunch of side effects, but saying that it's a false or psudeoscientific thing is quite bias. While some scientists or doctors don't like it's usage, it's still debated upon if effective or not. And from the John Hopkins source, they even state that you again, Should talk to your doctor and check labels before using it. It never says that it's completey ineffective. Even if we don't use these sources, they are still very reliable and give useful information. If I'm taking info on using herbal medicine of any kind, I'm not using this page. I see it needa a little updating. The sources that we present aren't bad ones, just need to list the other side to show that it isn't complete phony "Psudeoscience". Aalji ( talk) 22:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm a bit new so there is some page policies I might be unaware of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aalji ( talk • contribs) 22:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Why is an obscure neologism coined by a deceased expert in postage stamps being used as a terms to describe a topic relevant to medicine? 2600:1700:448D:BC10:2021:E3E7:D72E:8B79 ( talk) 15:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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Just adding my 2 cents to what many are already saying. As a practicing general herbalist in the US, I also find this article to be at best full of negative tone and statements, and at worst full of poor sourcing and gross inaccuracy. Really a slap to the face to all of my time studying medicinal plants at Cornell. Seems that there are lots of folks here that are better word smiths than I, so I'm looking forward to revisiting to see the edits and corrections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.247.255.213 ( talk) 23:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
What is herbal medicine ?? The introduction does not describe what herbal medicine is, it only describes what it is not. Very Funny
I would love to hear your thoughts on these questions. Nosferattus ( talk) 00:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Here is my proposal for a new version of the first paragraph that addresses some of the problems mentioned above:
Herbal medicine or herbalism is the practice and use of plants as a basis of medicine. Herbalism covers a wide variety of practices – from phytomedicine or phytotherapy [1] to pseudoscientific (paraherbalism). [2] The practice of herbalism dates back over centuries and is a major component of traditional medicine. Herbalism is also related to pharmacognosy – the study of plants or other natural sources as a possible source of drugs. [2] The scope of herbal medicine may include fungal and bee products, as well as minerals, shells, and certain animal parts.
References
Nosferattus ( talk) 17:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Appropriately, plants are mentioned repeatedly on this page, but mushrooms and other fungi are not. I hope this can be appropriately remedied. 2603:7080:7B06:2A00:90C:2B7B:1A8:8551 ( talk) 20:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
-safety and efficacy The second sentence on safety and efficacy is entirely editorialized and does not reflect the source, as well as falsely labeling the criticism of the herbal market as the criticism of herbalism itself, I would like to use my wording instead as it accurately represents the source and provides both better wording and more information on the criticism of herbalism and the herbal market
-market criticism I was never told why this is removed but I’d like to add it as its informative criticism of the herbal market which used the sources in the above sentence, I don’t know what to counterpoint as I was never told why it was removed
-Paraherbalism Again I was never told why this was removed, I used the source which uses Varro Eugene Tyler who coined the term for the addition of the pharmaceutical conspiracy, I don’t know what to counterpoint as I was never told why this was removed, I find it more informative and accurately representing the source Bobisland ( talk) 14:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
I think this article article has a pretty poor bias for herbal medicine, it just completly shames the entire use of it and ignores that reliable sources don't necasarily condone it. https://medlineplus.gov/herbalmedicine.html https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/herbal-medicine This gov source states how you should "Talk to your doctor first before using it" and that it and isn't exactly bad. They state that many herbal medicines come with it's bunch of side effects, but saying that it's a false or psudeoscientific thing is quite bias. While some scientists or doctors don't like it's usage, it's still debated upon if effective or not. And from the John Hopkins source, they even state that you again, Should talk to your doctor and check labels before using it. It never says that it's completey ineffective. Even if we don't use these sources, they are still very reliable and give useful information. If I'm taking info on using herbal medicine of any kind, I'm not using this page. I see it needa a little updating. The sources that we present aren't bad ones, just need to list the other side to show that it isn't complete phony "Psudeoscience". Aalji ( talk) 22:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm a bit new so there is some page policies I might be unaware of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aalji ( talk • contribs) 22:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Why is an obscure neologism coined by a deceased expert in postage stamps being used as a terms to describe a topic relevant to medicine? 2600:1700:448D:BC10:2021:E3E7:D72E:8B79 ( talk) 15:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)