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At present if you type "Harris" into the wikipedia search box you are taken to the Isle of Harrises entry! As there are many uses of the word Harris it has been proposed to change this so that when you type "Harris" you are taken to the Harris (disambiguation) page instead.
If you support/oppose this move or have any comments please add your input to the Harris Talk page.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by WickerWiki ( talk • contribs) 18:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Harris now is a disambiguation page. -- Una Smith ( talk) 19:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
This page continues to refer to "son of Harry" as the origin of the name with no reference. The name appears in other languages and cultures. It is a common Jewish name originating in Poland, for instance. The article needs amendment to delete this reference as the name is not solely British nor is their any evidence to suggest it is a corruption of "son of Harry". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.209.102.105 ( talk) 14:21, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
There is no reference to support the statement that Harris means "son of Harry". The article later says that Henri means "home ruler". This comes from the Germanic "Heinrich" from "hein" which is similar to the Scots "hame" and "rich" for "king", which is simply a Scots pronunciation of the old English "heorth" which means "place of fire", the "th" being a suffix denoting "place" or "condition of". This suggests that Harris may be an Old English word for "fire lord/ruler" rather than "home lord/ruler" from "heorþ" and "rix". Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 09:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
From Wiktionary:
heorþ
Etymology
From Proto-Germanic *herþaz, from Proto-Indo-European *ker- (“heat; fire”). Cognate with Old Frisian herth, hirth (West Frisian hurd), Old Saxon herth, herþ, Dutch haard, Old High German herd, hert (German Herd); the Germanic root is also reflected in Old Norse hyrr ‘fire’, Gothic 𐌷𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌹 (hauri) ‘coal’.
rix
Etymology
From Middle English rixen, from Old English rīxian, rīcsian (“to exercise or have power, rule, bear rule, govern, reign, domineer, dominate, tyrannize, exercise violence, prevail”), from Proto-Germanic *rīkisōną (“to rule”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₃reǵ- (“chief, king”). Cognate with Middle High German richsen (“to reign”), Lithuanian rikis (“knight”). More at riche. Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 15:52, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the section entitled "Meaning" until proper sources can be provided. There is no source for the suggestion that Harris means son of Harry or that it was a name introduced by the Normans. As the rest of the article shows, it is a name which has variations in other Indo-European languages where it is not derived from Henri. See, for instance, the William name page which describes the Germanic origin of that name. Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 19:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Well said...
"This suggests that Harris may be an Old English word for "fire lord/ruler" rather than "home lord/ruler" from "heorþ" and "rix""
And indeed, 'fire lord ruler' is codified my the NWO in the name "Bomber HARRIS" and his HARRYING (burnt offering) of Dresden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.69.20 ( talk) 04:50, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Relocated from User talk:William Harris to this Talk page, as being the appropriate place for discussion.
User:William Harris, You need to stop adding dubious and poorly-sourced information to the Harris surname page. Firstly, the page relates to the family name. Second, there are several origins of the family name, which I dealt with in the etymology section. Thirdly, the name is not exclusively Scottish (nor is it even common among Scots) so please do not edit the infobox to suggest such a thing.
Several of the sources you cite refer to Harris as a place-name (see Isle of Harris), not as a family name, therefore they are strictly unwelcome here.
The allusion to Ancestry.com refers only to user contributions, and not to items added by Ancestry themselves sourced from books on family names.
Your edits will be reversed. JoeyofScotia ( talk) 13:19, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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At present if you type "Harris" into the wikipedia search box you are taken to the Isle of Harrises entry! As there are many uses of the word Harris it has been proposed to change this so that when you type "Harris" you are taken to the Harris (disambiguation) page instead.
If you support/oppose this move or have any comments please add your input to the Harris Talk page.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by WickerWiki ( talk • contribs) 18:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Harris now is a disambiguation page. -- Una Smith ( talk) 19:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
This page continues to refer to "son of Harry" as the origin of the name with no reference. The name appears in other languages and cultures. It is a common Jewish name originating in Poland, for instance. The article needs amendment to delete this reference as the name is not solely British nor is their any evidence to suggest it is a corruption of "son of Harry". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.209.102.105 ( talk) 14:21, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
There is no reference to support the statement that Harris means "son of Harry". The article later says that Henri means "home ruler". This comes from the Germanic "Heinrich" from "hein" which is similar to the Scots "hame" and "rich" for "king", which is simply a Scots pronunciation of the old English "heorth" which means "place of fire", the "th" being a suffix denoting "place" or "condition of". This suggests that Harris may be an Old English word for "fire lord/ruler" rather than "home lord/ruler" from "heorþ" and "rix". Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 09:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
From Wiktionary:
heorþ
Etymology
From Proto-Germanic *herþaz, from Proto-Indo-European *ker- (“heat; fire”). Cognate with Old Frisian herth, hirth (West Frisian hurd), Old Saxon herth, herþ, Dutch haard, Old High German herd, hert (German Herd); the Germanic root is also reflected in Old Norse hyrr ‘fire’, Gothic 𐌷𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌹 (hauri) ‘coal’.
rix
Etymology
From Middle English rixen, from Old English rīxian, rīcsian (“to exercise or have power, rule, bear rule, govern, reign, domineer, dominate, tyrannize, exercise violence, prevail”), from Proto-Germanic *rīkisōną (“to rule”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₃reǵ- (“chief, king”). Cognate with Middle High German richsen (“to reign”), Lithuanian rikis (“knight”). More at riche. Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 15:52, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I have removed the section entitled "Meaning" until proper sources can be provided. There is no source for the suggestion that Harris means son of Harry or that it was a name introduced by the Normans. As the rest of the article shows, it is a name which has variations in other Indo-European languages where it is not derived from Henri. See, for instance, the William name page which describes the Germanic origin of that name. Burdenedwithtruth ( talk) 19:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Well said...
"This suggests that Harris may be an Old English word for "fire lord/ruler" rather than "home lord/ruler" from "heorþ" and "rix""
And indeed, 'fire lord ruler' is codified my the NWO in the name "Bomber HARRIS" and his HARRYING (burnt offering) of Dresden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.69.20 ( talk) 04:50, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
Relocated from User talk:William Harris to this Talk page, as being the appropriate place for discussion.
User:William Harris, You need to stop adding dubious and poorly-sourced information to the Harris surname page. Firstly, the page relates to the family name. Second, there are several origins of the family name, which I dealt with in the etymology section. Thirdly, the name is not exclusively Scottish (nor is it even common among Scots) so please do not edit the infobox to suggest such a thing.
Several of the sources you cite refer to Harris as a place-name (see Isle of Harris), not as a family name, therefore they are strictly unwelcome here.
The allusion to Ancestry.com refers only to user contributions, and not to items added by Ancestry themselves sourced from books on family names.
Your edits will be reversed. JoeyofScotia ( talk) 13:19, 5 September 2021 (UTC)