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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Haldia Port/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: Magentic Manifestations ( talk · contribs) 10:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Largely prose is clear; Grammar/spelling changes will be indicated in detailed comments below.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. All citations should be moved from the lead section. Lead shall be the summary of the article and if it is sufficiently backed by citations in the body, it is not required in the lead as per WP:LEAD checkY
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Formatting of citations needs working;
1. No all caps for titles (#41, #45, biblio titles)
2. Bare URLs with no information (#5, #10 etc.)
3. Use appropriate citations (cite news for news only, cite web for web sources and cite journal for journals etc.) checkY
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). There are quite a large dependency on few sources.

1. Most of the history section and some other sections is based on sources #17, #18 etc. which is based on a paper submitted for an engineering degree, which does not cite any primary sources for the information. It is not what you call a reliable secondary source.
2. There are no page numbers quoted for sources wherever applicable

2c. it contains no original research. There are quite a few sections which are not referenced or not quoted in the references. On dip stick, in the first section itself, "The port is situated about 121 kilometres (75 mi) north of the deep sea (Sandhead) and 40 kilometres (25 mi) inland from the Bay of Bengal by river. It is developed on the western bank of the Hooghly River at the confluence of the Hooghly and Haldi rivers in the Tamluk subdivision of Purba Medinipur district in the southern part of the state of West Bengal in eastern India." "The Haldia port is located on the eastern coast of India in the Lower Gangetic Plain which is part of a flat plain known as the Gangetic Plain; the land slope is fairly flat. ", "It is situated on alluvial plain, mainly formed from silt carried by the Hooghly and Haldi rivers"; most of the section is not part of the single source provided.
"Freight trains within the dock are operated by 12 locomotives under the dock's own railway, and annual capacity of transportation of cargos is 30 million metric tonnes. This railway system has general marshalling yards and bulk handling yards. Through the rail link, the cargoes are mainly transported to the manufacturing units of the port's customers like Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) and NTPC etc" Again no source is quoted or the source provided does not quote most of this.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. As per earwig, it is fine
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Broadly covers the topics of interest
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Some sections carry finer additional details, but generally fine.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Fairly neutral
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Relatively stable
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Images have no issues
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Are relevant
7. Overall assessment. @ User:খাঁ শুভেন্দু In the few sections that have been reviewed, it is found that the article needs working, particularly in terms of providing citations as there are multiple lines no valid references, unreliable sources and sources without page nos./link for quoted citations, apart from other issues. It would be better if you do a thorough re-check on the entire article based on the citations. From the comments, it might be concluded that the article fails some of the basic criteria, particularly 2b and 2c and needs to be quick failed. But I believe that discussing with the respective GA nominator to consider how the article concerned can be reworked and the changes can be made quite quickly with conscious effort, the nominator be willing. I look forward to hearing your response.
@ Magentic Manifestations: Thanks for starting the review.
Hoping to be able to quickly resolve the issue of points 1 (1a and 1b) and 2 (2a, 2b and 2c) mentioned by you in the review. In the next few days, I will (probably) resolve the issues and inform you. খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk) 17:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi! I am keeping this on hold for the moment. Let us see review the progress in a few days and if it is heading the right direction, let us take this forward. Please work on addressing the points and do a complete review of the article so that relevant sources are quoted for all the content. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations ( talk) 08:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Magentic Manifestations: Hi
I have done the necessary work to solve the problems that were in the article. If there is any other problem, let me know, I will try to solve it as best I can. খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk) 08:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Haldia Port/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk · contribs) 18:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewer: Magentic Manifestations ( talk · contribs) 10:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply


Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Largely prose is clear; Grammar/spelling changes will be indicated in detailed comments below.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. All citations should be moved from the lead section. Lead shall be the summary of the article and if it is sufficiently backed by citations in the body, it is not required in the lead as per WP:LEAD checkY
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Formatting of citations needs working;
1. No all caps for titles (#41, #45, biblio titles)
2. Bare URLs with no information (#5, #10 etc.)
3. Use appropriate citations (cite news for news only, cite web for web sources and cite journal for journals etc.) checkY
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). There are quite a large dependency on few sources.

1. Most of the history section and some other sections is based on sources #17, #18 etc. which is based on a paper submitted for an engineering degree, which does not cite any primary sources for the information. It is not what you call a reliable secondary source.
2. There are no page numbers quoted for sources wherever applicable

2c. it contains no original research. There are quite a few sections which are not referenced or not quoted in the references. On dip stick, in the first section itself, "The port is situated about 121 kilometres (75 mi) north of the deep sea (Sandhead) and 40 kilometres (25 mi) inland from the Bay of Bengal by river. It is developed on the western bank of the Hooghly River at the confluence of the Hooghly and Haldi rivers in the Tamluk subdivision of Purba Medinipur district in the southern part of the state of West Bengal in eastern India." "The Haldia port is located on the eastern coast of India in the Lower Gangetic Plain which is part of a flat plain known as the Gangetic Plain; the land slope is fairly flat. ", "It is situated on alluvial plain, mainly formed from silt carried by the Hooghly and Haldi rivers"; most of the section is not part of the single source provided.
"Freight trains within the dock are operated by 12 locomotives under the dock's own railway, and annual capacity of transportation of cargos is 30 million metric tonnes. This railway system has general marshalling yards and bulk handling yards. Through the rail link, the cargoes are mainly transported to the manufacturing units of the port's customers like Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) and NTPC etc" Again no source is quoted or the source provided does not quote most of this.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. As per earwig, it is fine
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Broadly covers the topics of interest
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Some sections carry finer additional details, but generally fine.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Fairly neutral
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Relatively stable
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Images have no issues
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Are relevant
7. Overall assessment. @ User:খাঁ শুভেন্দু In the few sections that have been reviewed, it is found that the article needs working, particularly in terms of providing citations as there are multiple lines no valid references, unreliable sources and sources without page nos./link for quoted citations, apart from other issues. It would be better if you do a thorough re-check on the entire article based on the citations. From the comments, it might be concluded that the article fails some of the basic criteria, particularly 2b and 2c and needs to be quick failed. But I believe that discussing with the respective GA nominator to consider how the article concerned can be reworked and the changes can be made quite quickly with conscious effort, the nominator be willing. I look forward to hearing your response.
@ Magentic Manifestations: Thanks for starting the review.
Hoping to be able to quickly resolve the issue of points 1 (1a and 1b) and 2 (2a, 2b and 2c) mentioned by you in the review. In the next few days, I will (probably) resolve the issues and inform you. খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk) 17:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi! I am keeping this on hold for the moment. Let us see review the progress in a few days and if it is heading the right direction, let us take this forward. Please work on addressing the points and do a complete review of the article so that relevant sources are quoted for all the content. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations ( talk) 08:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Magentic Manifestations: Hi
I have done the necessary work to solve the problems that were in the article. If there is any other problem, let me know, I will try to solve it as best I can. খাঁ শুভেন্দু ( talk) 08:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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