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I changed importance to high, because Google showed 387.000 results for sar lor lux and this term is known in several countries. -- Thw1309 10:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Does 'Cooperation' have an European Union specific meaning? I think the word ' wikt:cooperative' might be better. Gosgood ( talk) 00:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Outcome: Fail.
In any case, I commend Thw1309 for greatly improving the article over the originally nominated version. He transformed the many parts of the article from a stilted, list-like form, to a sound narrative and introduced new material as well. The real gain, I think, is that the article is now a very solid B, where the nominated version still had aspects of a Start class article.
The facets of this article that I think need improving are:
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1. It is well written. In this respect | Disagree | |
(a) the prose is clear and the grammar is correct; and |
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(b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation. | Neutral
Lead:
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2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect, it: | ||
(a) provides references to all sources of information, and at minimum contains a section dedicated to the attribution of those sources in accordance with the guide to layout; | Agree The writer conscientously grounds much of the article on English, German, and French sources from the EU and regional news sources. These all appear to have editorial oversight. | |
(b) at minimum, provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons;[2] and |
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(c) contains no original research. | Agree The prose closely paraphrases and summarizes the references, to the extent that the arc of narrative of the article suffers somewwhat, (See below). | |
3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect, it: | ||
(a) addresses the major aspects of the topic; and | Agree The scope of the article is to characterize the nature of the cross-border cooperative, along with some of the major variations of its operation. I believe the article mainly sticks to this program. | |
(b) stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details (see summary style). | I think the history section reaches too far back in time; Thw1309 feels that the history lends insight into how the cultures around the border participate in the cooperative. This is difference in opinion on content, and I concede that Thw1309 has a better sense of scope on this topic than I do. | |
4. It is neutral; that is, it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias. | Agree The writing is formal and neutral. Problems concerning running a cross-border organization are reported in a matter-of-fact way. | |
5. It is stable; that is, it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of an ongoing edit war. Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, and improvements based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. | Neutral The article is currently undergoing change, some prompted by initial review comments, some as a part of regular article maintenance; as a consequence, I cannot vet for article stability. However, the change is orderly; there is no edit war taking place. The article is mainly evolving along the lines the principle writer has chosen. At present, a new section has appeared at the end of the article which, I believe will be completed soon. | |
6. It is illustrated, where possible and appropriate, by images. In this respect: | ||
(a) all images used are tagged with their copyright status, and fair use rationales are provided for any non-free content; and | Agree
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(b) the images are appropriate to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Agree
Comment: I do not think Image:Vhbabansicht.jpg, "The steelwork of Völklingen", Image:Saarbruecken-campus.jpg "Saar University" or Image:Luxembourg City Kirchberg1 fromBock.jpg "Buildings of the European Community on the Kirchberg (Church mountain) at Luxembourg city" promote much of an understanding of the article's subject matter; the subjects of the images are mentioned in passing in the article and seem unremarkable to me. | |
7. Overall | Fail I think the article has moved a good deal closer to the Good Article marque, but still falls a little short, primarily in the area of prose. See following remarks.
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Initial observations and draft comments may be found in Draft Comments
SaarLorLux and
Greater Region
Many informations duplicated between the two articles.
http://www.euregio.lu/euregio.lu/html_fr/qui_sommes_nous/index.html use as well SaarLorLux+ and Greater Region for the same area.
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talk) 15:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
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I propose merging Greater Region into Greater Region of SaarLorLux. -- Heanor ( talk) 16:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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I changed importance to high, because Google showed 387.000 results for sar lor lux and this term is known in several countries. -- Thw1309 10:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Does 'Cooperation' have an European Union specific meaning? I think the word ' wikt:cooperative' might be better. Gosgood ( talk) 00:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Outcome: Fail.
In any case, I commend Thw1309 for greatly improving the article over the originally nominated version. He transformed the many parts of the article from a stilted, list-like form, to a sound narrative and introduced new material as well. The real gain, I think, is that the article is now a very solid B, where the nominated version still had aspects of a Start class article.
The facets of this article that I think need improving are:
Rate | Attribute | Review Comment |
---|---|---|
1. It is well written. In this respect | Disagree | |
(a) the prose is clear and the grammar is correct; and |
| |
(b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation. | Neutral
Lead:
| |
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect, it: | ||
(a) provides references to all sources of information, and at minimum contains a section dedicated to the attribution of those sources in accordance with the guide to layout; | Agree The writer conscientously grounds much of the article on English, German, and French sources from the EU and regional news sources. These all appear to have editorial oversight. | |
(b) at minimum, provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons;[2] and |
| |
(c) contains no original research. | Agree The prose closely paraphrases and summarizes the references, to the extent that the arc of narrative of the article suffers somewwhat, (See below). | |
3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect, it: | ||
(a) addresses the major aspects of the topic; and | Agree The scope of the article is to characterize the nature of the cross-border cooperative, along with some of the major variations of its operation. I believe the article mainly sticks to this program. | |
(b) stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details (see summary style). | I think the history section reaches too far back in time; Thw1309 feels that the history lends insight into how the cultures around the border participate in the cooperative. This is difference in opinion on content, and I concede that Thw1309 has a better sense of scope on this topic than I do. | |
4. It is neutral; that is, it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias. | Agree The writing is formal and neutral. Problems concerning running a cross-border organization are reported in a matter-of-fact way. | |
5. It is stable; that is, it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of an ongoing edit war. Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, and improvements based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. | Neutral The article is currently undergoing change, some prompted by initial review comments, some as a part of regular article maintenance; as a consequence, I cannot vet for article stability. However, the change is orderly; there is no edit war taking place. The article is mainly evolving along the lines the principle writer has chosen. At present, a new section has appeared at the end of the article which, I believe will be completed soon. | |
6. It is illustrated, where possible and appropriate, by images. In this respect: | ||
(a) all images used are tagged with their copyright status, and fair use rationales are provided for any non-free content; and | Agree
| |
(b) the images are appropriate to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Agree
Comment: I do not think Image:Vhbabansicht.jpg, "The steelwork of Völklingen", Image:Saarbruecken-campus.jpg "Saar University" or Image:Luxembourg City Kirchberg1 fromBock.jpg "Buildings of the European Community on the Kirchberg (Church mountain) at Luxembourg city" promote much of an understanding of the article's subject matter; the subjects of the images are mentioned in passing in the article and seem unremarkable to me. | |
7. Overall | Fail I think the article has moved a good deal closer to the Good Article marque, but still falls a little short, primarily in the area of prose. See following remarks.
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Initial observations and draft comments may be found in Draft Comments
SaarLorLux and
Greater Region
Many informations duplicated between the two articles.
http://www.euregio.lu/euregio.lu/html_fr/qui_sommes_nous/index.html use as well SaarLorLux+ and Greater Region for the same area.
Ske (
talk) 15:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
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I propose merging Greater Region into Greater Region of SaarLorLux. -- Heanor ( talk) 16:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)