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We go through this every season, so since the first unreliably sourced episode title has already been added, it makes sense to repost this information from the season 5 talk page. Most are without any sources at all, some with sources that are clearly not reliable, and some that may seem to be reliable but really aren't. Please remember that fan-based sources like wikias, tumblrs, and larger, fancier sites that look more professional but do not have the fact checking and editorial standards required of reliable sources should never be used. These problematic sources include:
Absent a reliable source, information on episode titles, writers, directors, production codes, short plot summaries, and so on should not be added to the article. Please remember, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or gossip magazine: information should wait to be added until it can be verified using reliable sources. Many thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 15:18, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
An editor keeps reverting my change of the seasons colour scheme from an unofficial violet hue, to an ocean blue that is being used in the official poster for the last season on DirecTV. Please let's not cross 3RR. Let me hear where you're getting the official word for the violet. Other editors, please weigh in. Cheers, LLArrow ( talk) 01:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor continually reverts my correction of the credits for series co-creators Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan on the episodes they have all contributed to. The on-screen credit of the episodes is as follows, "Ryan Murphy & Brad Falchuk & Ian Brennan", using two ampersands instead of the more grammatically traditional style of a comma and an "and". This editor claims that the action is questionable against WP:MOS, which I don't subscribe to in the least. If the TV series feels that two ampersands are the appropriate way to credit these writers, this article should most definitely reflect that. Show me any other series that takes liberties with style of credit for writers. Any. There are none. Please weigh in on this issue. Thank you and cheers, LLArrow ( talk) 04:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
If the TV series feels that two ampersands are the appropriate way to credit these writers, this article should most definitely reflect that.is certainly untrue for prose, as MOS:AMP makes crystal clear. Wikipedia simply doesn't work that way.
Credits for film and television are not just randomly typed up by a computer guy, they are completely thought out and specifically written. Often you will see writers in films credited as X & X and X & X. This is not done because somebody couldn't be bothered writing out two of the 'and's, or because there wasn't enough space, this was done because od writer groupings and the such. This is the same as the order of the main cast - we might think somebody is more important than another and therefore should be higher up the list, or that perhaps alphabetical order is best, but the official list is in a specific order for a reason. If writers are credited with &s, then that is how they are credited, and we can't do anything about, no matter how much we don't like it. End of story. - adamstom97 ( talk) 08:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I watch Glee on Hulu, and in the version of "A Wedding" being offered there, the following credit is displayed on screen at approximately 10:05 into the episode:
directed by
Bradley Buecker
&
Ian Brennan
This credit occurs immediately after "written by ross maxwell" credit, and is the last one before the first commercial break. Given the reverts I've been getting here, I can only guess that the credit looks different elsewhere (crediting only Buecker rather than both Buecker and Brennan), which strikes me as quite strange. Can those people who have been reverting me when I add Ian Brennan, User:Artmanha and User:LLArrow, say which version, broadcast or online source, they're viewing for their information, and quote what it says? Also, if anyone else has seen the directorial credit in the episode, it would be nice to figure out how widespread the variants are. At some point, we'll have a physical DVD, which will presumably have the final, corrected version. BlueMoonset ( talk) 01:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
@ BlueMoonset: Do you have any confirmation regarding the matter? — Artmanha ( talk) 15:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
The Reception section read "The season was received with positive reviews", even though some of the episodes haven't even been aired yet and the articles linked to talked only about the first two episodes. I changed the sentence accordingly. 62.78.230.2 ( talk) 16:28, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" in the episode titles here should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 12:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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We go through this every season, so since the first unreliably sourced episode title has already been added, it makes sense to repost this information from the season 5 talk page. Most are without any sources at all, some with sources that are clearly not reliable, and some that may seem to be reliable but really aren't. Please remember that fan-based sources like wikias, tumblrs, and larger, fancier sites that look more professional but do not have the fact checking and editorial standards required of reliable sources should never be used. These problematic sources include:
Absent a reliable source, information on episode titles, writers, directors, production codes, short plot summaries, and so on should not be added to the article. Please remember, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper or gossip magazine: information should wait to be added until it can be verified using reliable sources. Many thanks. BlueMoonset ( talk) 15:18, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
An editor keeps reverting my change of the seasons colour scheme from an unofficial violet hue, to an ocean blue that is being used in the official poster for the last season on DirecTV. Please let's not cross 3RR. Let me hear where you're getting the official word for the violet. Other editors, please weigh in. Cheers, LLArrow ( talk) 01:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
An editor continually reverts my correction of the credits for series co-creators Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan on the episodes they have all contributed to. The on-screen credit of the episodes is as follows, "Ryan Murphy & Brad Falchuk & Ian Brennan", using two ampersands instead of the more grammatically traditional style of a comma and an "and". This editor claims that the action is questionable against WP:MOS, which I don't subscribe to in the least. If the TV series feels that two ampersands are the appropriate way to credit these writers, this article should most definitely reflect that. Show me any other series that takes liberties with style of credit for writers. Any. There are none. Please weigh in on this issue. Thank you and cheers, LLArrow ( talk) 04:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
If the TV series feels that two ampersands are the appropriate way to credit these writers, this article should most definitely reflect that.is certainly untrue for prose, as MOS:AMP makes crystal clear. Wikipedia simply doesn't work that way.
Credits for film and television are not just randomly typed up by a computer guy, they are completely thought out and specifically written. Often you will see writers in films credited as X & X and X & X. This is not done because somebody couldn't be bothered writing out two of the 'and's, or because there wasn't enough space, this was done because od writer groupings and the such. This is the same as the order of the main cast - we might think somebody is more important than another and therefore should be higher up the list, or that perhaps alphabetical order is best, but the official list is in a specific order for a reason. If writers are credited with &s, then that is how they are credited, and we can't do anything about, no matter how much we don't like it. End of story. - adamstom97 ( talk) 08:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I watch Glee on Hulu, and in the version of "A Wedding" being offered there, the following credit is displayed on screen at approximately 10:05 into the episode:
directed by
Bradley Buecker
&
Ian Brennan
This credit occurs immediately after "written by ross maxwell" credit, and is the last one before the first commercial break. Given the reverts I've been getting here, I can only guess that the credit looks different elsewhere (crediting only Buecker rather than both Buecker and Brennan), which strikes me as quite strange. Can those people who have been reverting me when I add Ian Brennan, User:Artmanha and User:LLArrow, say which version, broadcast or online source, they're viewing for their information, and quote what it says? Also, if anyone else has seen the directorial credit in the episode, it would be nice to figure out how widespread the variants are. At some point, we'll have a physical DVD, which will presumably have the final, corrected version. BlueMoonset ( talk) 01:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
@ BlueMoonset: Do you have any confirmation regarding the matter? — Artmanha ( talk) 15:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
The Reception section read "The season was received with positive reviews", even though some of the episodes haven't even been aired yet and the articles linked to talked only about the first two episodes. I changed the sentence accordingly. 62.78.230.2 ( talk) 16:28, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" in the episode titles here should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 12:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)