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While the "Controversies" section could exist in some form, as I found it all of the sources were either tabloids or pro-Israel lobbying organizations. These clearly have
conflicts of interest. With only these sources the section does not meet the threshold for
biographies of living persons, so I have removed it entirely.
ElasticSnake (
talk) 22:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
'Early life' passage partly written in non-encyclopedic style
The biographical passage on "Early life" is not neutral, but written in a politicized context. Is there any independent evidence for the statement "ethnically cleansed the village were his family lived for generations"? Which village is it referring to? On the exact date of May 15, 1948? References to the current situation like "2024 stands in ruins" are also not part of this person's biography. Overall, this makes passage sound non-encyclopedic, but rather accusatory. It would be OK to read this in an autobiography or opinion piece of an Anti-Israel activist like Abu-Sittah, but Wikipedia should be neutral.--
Mdphddr (
talk) 13:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I suggest to replace this non-neutral passage: "In 1920, his grandfather Sheikh Hussain built a school with his own money in the small village where they lived and made education central to the family’s life. On 15 May 1948 the Zionist paramilitary forces Haganah ethnically cleansed the village were his family lived for generations and drove them into a refugee camp in Khan Younis that 2024 stands in ruins in the Gaza Strip (1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight−2023 Israel–Gaza war)."
With
According to Abu-Sittah (if no other sources other than his own statements from
here (already referenced in the article) are provided), his grandfather Sheikh Hussain built a school with his own money in the small village of ? (a name would be appropriate) where they lived in 1920 and made education central to the family’s life. During the
1948 Arab–Israeli War, the family was expelled to a refugee camp in
Khan Yunis.--
Mdphddr (
talk) 13:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
About that fateful 15 May 1948 you can find out something here:
Mondoweis is not acceptible for biographies, especially for large claims such as this without any other supporting evidence. I have removed. If someone can find real sources evidencing these statements, we should re add without all the biased language from our anonymous friend.
Tennisist123 (
talk) 18:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
1. That's not so. 2. Many people refer to IP editing as "anonymous editing." But in reality, IP editing is less anonymous than registering a username. IP addresses in many cases can be traced to an exact location. On the other hand, if you create an account and edit under that, your IP address will be hidden from most users. IPs should not be intimidated or be pressurised to sign up.
You are a
WP:SPA and Mondoweis fails
WP:Reliable for
WP:BLP. Please find a stronger source if you want to include this information.
Tennisist123 (
talk) 07:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The
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While the "Controversies" section could exist in some form, as I found it all of the sources were either tabloids or pro-Israel lobbying organizations. These clearly have
conflicts of interest. With only these sources the section does not meet the threshold for
biographies of living persons, so I have removed it entirely.
ElasticSnake (
talk) 22:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
'Early life' passage partly written in non-encyclopedic style
The biographical passage on "Early life" is not neutral, but written in a politicized context. Is there any independent evidence for the statement "ethnically cleansed the village were his family lived for generations"? Which village is it referring to? On the exact date of May 15, 1948? References to the current situation like "2024 stands in ruins" are also not part of this person's biography. Overall, this makes passage sound non-encyclopedic, but rather accusatory. It would be OK to read this in an autobiography or opinion piece of an Anti-Israel activist like Abu-Sittah, but Wikipedia should be neutral.--
Mdphddr (
talk) 13:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I suggest to replace this non-neutral passage: "In 1920, his grandfather Sheikh Hussain built a school with his own money in the small village where they lived and made education central to the family’s life. On 15 May 1948 the Zionist paramilitary forces Haganah ethnically cleansed the village were his family lived for generations and drove them into a refugee camp in Khan Younis that 2024 stands in ruins in the Gaza Strip (1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight−2023 Israel–Gaza war)."
With
According to Abu-Sittah (if no other sources other than his own statements from
here (already referenced in the article) are provided), his grandfather Sheikh Hussain built a school with his own money in the small village of ? (a name would be appropriate) where they lived in 1920 and made education central to the family’s life. During the
1948 Arab–Israeli War, the family was expelled to a refugee camp in
Khan Yunis.--
Mdphddr (
talk) 13:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
About that fateful 15 May 1948 you can find out something here:
Mondoweis is not acceptible for biographies, especially for large claims such as this without any other supporting evidence. I have removed. If someone can find real sources evidencing these statements, we should re add without all the biased language from our anonymous friend.
Tennisist123 (
talk) 18:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)reply
1. That's not so. 2. Many people refer to IP editing as "anonymous editing." But in reality, IP editing is less anonymous than registering a username. IP addresses in many cases can be traced to an exact location. On the other hand, if you create an account and edit under that, your IP address will be hidden from most users. IPs should not be intimidated or be pressurised to sign up.
You are a
WP:SPA and Mondoweis fails
WP:Reliable for
WP:BLP. Please find a stronger source if you want to include this information.
Tennisist123 (
talk) 07:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)reply
