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I like the original entry:
One less than Moore's record in what? Caps or goals?
Also, I think the claim that he has never been booked needs further investigation. Players tend to say things like that, though it's not unusual for a striker to go uncautioned for a long time, everyone will earn a card eventually :)
The record of never having been booked is well known. AFAIK he was actually booked once but succesfully appealled against it. The record part refers to goals. GordyB 13:31, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
He was actually replaced by Alan Smith, not Alan Shearer, in his final appearance for England. Alan Shearer has never played for Arsenal.
Having being a year ahead of Gary Lineker at the City of Leicester Boys School, what evidence is there for the part about him being a medical student? In 1976, at the time he would have been at Kings, he would have been 15, and wouldn't have taken his O or A levels. We'd have heard about that at school! GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The tale about him being a medical student is not borne out by the only biography of him , which I consulted in Leicester Central Reference Library. I will change it later, and cite the source - why does it keep being added back? GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
There's a MySpace page
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=100823535 that repeats the medical school story, but it doesn't look particularly legit. Incidentally, if he was born in November 1960, he would almost certainly have taken his A-levels in 1979, by which time he was playing for the Leicester first team, so they look a bit iffy too. I'm ditching the King's College reference, and would query the A-levels.
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Here's the information from the printed biography Gary Lineker: Strikingly Different by Colin Malam, which is in the Leicester Central Reference Library Local Studies Collection. He got 4 O levels, and his school reports are quoted, saying he needed to work harder. He left school at 16, and to no-one's surprise, there is no mention of Kings College Medical School. Perhaps the other sites copying Wikipedia will take note. GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
At the moment he's currentley living with his wife and two sons? Where are the other two? Petsco 12:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Tamsin: Question? How is it possible for Lineker to have been born in November 1960 and have been a medical student BEFORE joining Leicester City in 1976? He would have been only 15 at the start of the 1976-7 academic year!!!
Can somebody check the Everton stats. I'm fairly sure he didn't play 138 games in two seasons and I know for a fact he scored more than 25 goals. 82.42.208.252 18:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I found the info! It was 38 goals in 52 appearances. Someone just made the old stat up! 82.42.208.252 18:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately it has to be corrected that Gary Lineker speaks Japanese. He might be able to speak a few words, but he is definitely not fluent.
It would be frankly amazing if he had in just two years achieved a level of proficiency in Japanese that could sensibly be called "fluent". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.85.192.125 ( talk) 08:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I am sure I remember Lineker recieving a yellow card in one his last club games for a badly timed tackle and the regret in which it was recieved as it was his only booking. I might be wrong - can anyone confirm or deny this?
I can confirm that the above incident happened to Alan Smith of Arsenal. He had never been booked in his whole career and then in the 92/93 cup final against Sheff Wed he picked up a booking.
Anyone think it's worth mentioning his appearance on the Paedogeddon special of Brasseye in 2001?
The games listed are not Lineker's. They appear to be Bobby Charlton's, though why it counts 48 when he scored 49 is a bit confusing
Paul Derbyshire
Your both wrong. Links scored 48 in 80 games. I have corrected the table, that read 31! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.132.42 ( talk) 17:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
First impression of looking at this article is how stupid the picture looks, could someone find an actual picture of lineker or just not have one at all. Simplyirresistiblepalmer ( talk) 19:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Is it 1960 or 1970? the opening paragraph says 1960, the infobar at the side says 1970.
It's not 1970, because he wasn't 16 in the 1986 world cup. 81.98.240.135 ( talk) 10:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
How about adding the name of the top scorer? Thanks Kvsh5 ( talk) 06:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The Sporting Positions infobox is missing (previous England Captains link to Lineker from Bryan Robson for instance.) - 84.92.169.252 ( talk) 20:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
The latest attempt to insert the "poo on the pitch" incident included a RS: a blog at The Guardian. I don't think wording such as "He shit himself" [shouldn't that be "shat"?] is encyclopedic, and I don't think it should be given undue weight, but the sources are there and clearly the topic is coming up - it's getting inserted again and again. So I propose a single sentence be added using the wording "lost control of his bowels because of illness". Putting it here first so consensus can be reached either way. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
“Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win."
How about adding this quotation made by him ?-- 91.89.127.108 ( talk) 00:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Title changed, by definition Lineker's 'incident' was a shart and not a formal poo. -- 79.66.246.169 ( talk) 14:51, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Arguing over whether Lineker's actions constituted a 'formal poo' or not misses the point. An encyclopaedic treatment of him needs to cover the notable event of him defecating in his shorts while representing his country. BillyJones1000 ( talk) 19:09, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Have randomly discovered that Gary is second in the list of Top Ten chains for the game Wikipedia:Get_to_Philosophy IdleEdit ( talk) 10:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
See earlier note on Everton stats, i've corrected that Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton not 38 due to goals scored in the Screen Sport Super Cup (for teams that did not play in Europe following the European ban in 1985). Babydoll9799 ( talk) 18:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Lineker's been honoured with an OBE, but the only mention of it is with the postnominal in the lead. Can someone add at least a sentence about when he got it and what for? — OwenBlacker ( Talk) 21:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Edit suggestion. Replace this:
With this:
There was a player who was removed from some game. Later, the player complained on twitter. At some point, Gary Lineker said something about the person complaining, also on twitter. The complainer then went on to threaten to insult Gary, still via twitter. This chat was reported in the fine upstanding Daily Mirror. Now, technically, that counts as WP:NOTEWORTHY, and as an inclusionist, I'm a bit leery of taking it out of wikipedia entirely... but can we not move it over to the article about the complainer, at least? All the piece contains is a single quote from Gary Lineker's twitter-feed:
"Still raging then? Still kicking out? And still, presumably, misunderstood? But only by yourself I suspect."
The rest of the article is quoting the poorly-spelled insults and vague insinuations from the complainer. There is no analysis, or similar. I'd also be happy with just marking this one down as WP:IAR, and yoinking the stuff. If the only thing that happened between Gary Lineker and Joey Barton (as reported in WP:RS that is) was this one exchange, of exactly one twit from Gary Lineker... that hardly seems worth mentioning, methinks. Is that the ONLY thing WP:NOTEWORTHY in 2012, folks?
See also WP:WELLKNOWN and WP:BLPGOSSIP, which suggest that unless there are multiple sources covering a long-running dispute, this sentence can go. Thanks for reading, and thanks for improving the 'pedia. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 05:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Raudys has twice rewritten the lede, today more extensively than the first time, to emphasise Lineker's broadcasting career over his football career. It seems to me that he is better known for his achievements as a player, and in any event the article is more about his playing career and presents his broadcasting career as a later stage in his life. But I'd like input from others with more familiarity with his current reputation before reverting again. Yngvadottir ( talk) 06:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that top-ranked UFC (MMA) fighter John Lineker was named after Gary Lineker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.34.183 ( talk) 22:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
This is mentioned on John Lineker's page, John Lineker is named after English football striker Gary Lineker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.246.169 ( talk) 20:22, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
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Right, test-case here for the new Daily Mail ruling. They've got an article (which, from my liberal filter bubble, I have heard about but not actually read) in which Gary Lineker has been accused of dodging his taxes. Clearly unless this is corroborated elsewhere we can't put that Gary Lineker is a tax avoider - but could we maybe put in something like "The Daily Mail has accused him of avoiding paying tax" and reference this with a third-party source? eg https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/09/gary-lineker-hits-back-at-daily-mail-over-tax-accusation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.175.41 ( talk) 07:33, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
That's quite iconic in a way as TV advertising goes, surely there should be a mention in prose, maybe find a better source? Govvy ( talk) 18:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
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"He holds England's record for goals in FIFA World Cup finals, with 10 scored": replace FIFA World Cup finals with the FIFA World Cup. "Cup" already shows it is a competition, making "finals" redundant as it is referring to the whole tournament, and confusing because he has not scored in the final round of a FIFA World Cup tournament (refer to Gary_Lineker#International_goals). TheBetrayedOne ( talk) 07:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Can we put the information back in the article, this content fork [1] seems completely unnecessary. Govvy ( talk) 19:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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... that Gary Lineker was substituted in the 57th minute of his final national game, when he needed just 1 goal to equal the record for most goals for England; a record then held by Bobby Charlton.
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Total league goals for Tottenham Hotspur needs to be amended to 67 (i/o 57) in the career stats section. 2A02:C7F:7016:1000:807E:49AB:665B:8356 ( talk) 19:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Third paragraph - Introduction
Gary Lineker is now the fourth highest England goalscorer, as Harry Kane has now scored more goals. Source — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAlfman ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
His goals at Everton have not been counted in the total. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:4A43:4B3F:C6CF:0:0:CA5:5418 ( talk) 19:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Currently in the opening it says "where he presented the flagship football programme Match of the Day from the late 1990s until March 2023," As far as I am aware Lineker is still the host rather is stepping back from an indeterminate amount of time. Is it worth changing that back to say he is still the host. C. 22468 Talk to me 21:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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Request to add his appearance in the BAFTA winning drama Marvellous under "Media career" section. I realise it's not the biggest thing happening media-wise right now, but other cameo appearances get a mention & I'd like to see this added too. 95.145.86.26 ( talk) 17:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Match of the Day commentators
Steve Wilson,
Conor McNamara,
Robyn Cowen and
Steven Wyeth, in a joint statement online, also announced their auto-suspension
It's not at all clear to me what this means, and there's no wikilink available for "auto-suspension." Could this be clarified?
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The piece on this is way too long. Wikipedia is suppossed to be an encylopedia not a blog. Coachtripfan ( talk) 19:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
"Lineker was the highest-paid BBC employee... " Was he an employee, or a freelance working under contract for services? S C Cheese ( talk) 16:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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I like the original entry:
One less than Moore's record in what? Caps or goals?
Also, I think the claim that he has never been booked needs further investigation. Players tend to say things like that, though it's not unusual for a striker to go uncautioned for a long time, everyone will earn a card eventually :)
The record of never having been booked is well known. AFAIK he was actually booked once but succesfully appealled against it. The record part refers to goals. GordyB 13:31, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
He was actually replaced by Alan Smith, not Alan Shearer, in his final appearance for England. Alan Shearer has never played for Arsenal.
Having being a year ahead of Gary Lineker at the City of Leicester Boys School, what evidence is there for the part about him being a medical student? In 1976, at the time he would have been at Kings, he would have been 15, and wouldn't have taken his O or A levels. We'd have heard about that at school! GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The tale about him being a medical student is not borne out by the only biography of him , which I consulted in Leicester Central Reference Library. I will change it later, and cite the source - why does it keep being added back? GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
There's a MySpace page
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=100823535 that repeats the medical school story, but it doesn't look particularly legit. Incidentally, if he was born in November 1960, he would almost certainly have taken his A-levels in 1979, by which time he was playing for the Leicester first team, so they look a bit iffy too. I'm ditching the King's College reference, and would query the A-levels.
AuntFlo (
talk) 11:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's the information from the printed biography Gary Lineker: Strikingly Different by Colin Malam, which is in the Leicester Central Reference Library Local Studies Collection. He got 4 O levels, and his school reports are quoted, saying he needed to work harder. He left school at 16, and to no-one's surprise, there is no mention of Kings College Medical School. Perhaps the other sites copying Wikipedia will take note. GGA6 ( talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
At the moment he's currentley living with his wife and two sons? Where are the other two? Petsco 12:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Tamsin: Question? How is it possible for Lineker to have been born in November 1960 and have been a medical student BEFORE joining Leicester City in 1976? He would have been only 15 at the start of the 1976-7 academic year!!!
Can somebody check the Everton stats. I'm fairly sure he didn't play 138 games in two seasons and I know for a fact he scored more than 25 goals. 82.42.208.252 18:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I found the info! It was 38 goals in 52 appearances. Someone just made the old stat up! 82.42.208.252 18:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately it has to be corrected that Gary Lineker speaks Japanese. He might be able to speak a few words, but he is definitely not fluent.
It would be frankly amazing if he had in just two years achieved a level of proficiency in Japanese that could sensibly be called "fluent". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.85.192.125 ( talk) 08:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I am sure I remember Lineker recieving a yellow card in one his last club games for a badly timed tackle and the regret in which it was recieved as it was his only booking. I might be wrong - can anyone confirm or deny this?
I can confirm that the above incident happened to Alan Smith of Arsenal. He had never been booked in his whole career and then in the 92/93 cup final against Sheff Wed he picked up a booking.
Anyone think it's worth mentioning his appearance on the Paedogeddon special of Brasseye in 2001?
The games listed are not Lineker's. They appear to be Bobby Charlton's, though why it counts 48 when he scored 49 is a bit confusing
Paul Derbyshire
Your both wrong. Links scored 48 in 80 games. I have corrected the table, that read 31! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.132.42 ( talk) 17:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
First impression of looking at this article is how stupid the picture looks, could someone find an actual picture of lineker or just not have one at all. Simplyirresistiblepalmer ( talk) 19:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Is it 1960 or 1970? the opening paragraph says 1960, the infobar at the side says 1970.
It's not 1970, because he wasn't 16 in the 1986 world cup. 81.98.240.135 ( talk) 10:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
How about adding the name of the top scorer? Thanks Kvsh5 ( talk) 06:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The Sporting Positions infobox is missing (previous England Captains link to Lineker from Bryan Robson for instance.) - 84.92.169.252 ( talk) 20:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
The latest attempt to insert the "poo on the pitch" incident included a RS: a blog at The Guardian. I don't think wording such as "He shit himself" [shouldn't that be "shat"?] is encyclopedic, and I don't think it should be given undue weight, but the sources are there and clearly the topic is coming up - it's getting inserted again and again. So I propose a single sentence be added using the wording "lost control of his bowels because of illness". Putting it here first so consensus can be reached either way. Yngvadottir ( talk) 20:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
“Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win."
How about adding this quotation made by him ?-- 91.89.127.108 ( talk) 00:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Title changed, by definition Lineker's 'incident' was a shart and not a formal poo. -- 79.66.246.169 ( talk) 14:51, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Arguing over whether Lineker's actions constituted a 'formal poo' or not misses the point. An encyclopaedic treatment of him needs to cover the notable event of him defecating in his shorts while representing his country. BillyJones1000 ( talk) 19:09, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Have randomly discovered that Gary is second in the list of Top Ten chains for the game Wikipedia:Get_to_Philosophy IdleEdit ( talk) 10:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
See earlier note on Everton stats, i've corrected that Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton not 38 due to goals scored in the Screen Sport Super Cup (for teams that did not play in Europe following the European ban in 1985). Babydoll9799 ( talk) 18:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Lineker's been honoured with an OBE, but the only mention of it is with the postnominal in the lead. Can someone add at least a sentence about when he got it and what for? — OwenBlacker ( Talk) 21:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Edit suggestion. Replace this:
With this:
There was a player who was removed from some game. Later, the player complained on twitter. At some point, Gary Lineker said something about the person complaining, also on twitter. The complainer then went on to threaten to insult Gary, still via twitter. This chat was reported in the fine upstanding Daily Mirror. Now, technically, that counts as WP:NOTEWORTHY, and as an inclusionist, I'm a bit leery of taking it out of wikipedia entirely... but can we not move it over to the article about the complainer, at least? All the piece contains is a single quote from Gary Lineker's twitter-feed:
"Still raging then? Still kicking out? And still, presumably, misunderstood? But only by yourself I suspect."
The rest of the article is quoting the poorly-spelled insults and vague insinuations from the complainer. There is no analysis, or similar. I'd also be happy with just marking this one down as WP:IAR, and yoinking the stuff. If the only thing that happened between Gary Lineker and Joey Barton (as reported in WP:RS that is) was this one exchange, of exactly one twit from Gary Lineker... that hardly seems worth mentioning, methinks. Is that the ONLY thing WP:NOTEWORTHY in 2012, folks?
See also WP:WELLKNOWN and WP:BLPGOSSIP, which suggest that unless there are multiple sources covering a long-running dispute, this sentence can go. Thanks for reading, and thanks for improving the 'pedia. 74.192.84.101 ( talk) 05:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Raudys has twice rewritten the lede, today more extensively than the first time, to emphasise Lineker's broadcasting career over his football career. It seems to me that he is better known for his achievements as a player, and in any event the article is more about his playing career and presents his broadcasting career as a later stage in his life. But I'd like input from others with more familiarity with his current reputation before reverting again. Yngvadottir ( talk) 06:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that top-ranked UFC (MMA) fighter John Lineker was named after Gary Lineker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.34.183 ( talk) 22:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
This is mentioned on John Lineker's page, John Lineker is named after English football striker Gary Lineker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.246.169 ( talk) 20:22, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
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Right, test-case here for the new Daily Mail ruling. They've got an article (which, from my liberal filter bubble, I have heard about but not actually read) in which Gary Lineker has been accused of dodging his taxes. Clearly unless this is corroborated elsewhere we can't put that Gary Lineker is a tax avoider - but could we maybe put in something like "The Daily Mail has accused him of avoiding paying tax" and reference this with a third-party source? eg https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/09/gary-lineker-hits-back-at-daily-mail-over-tax-accusation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.175.41 ( talk) 07:33, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
That's quite iconic in a way as TV advertising goes, surely there should be a mention in prose, maybe find a better source? Govvy ( talk) 18:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
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"He holds England's record for goals in FIFA World Cup finals, with 10 scored": replace FIFA World Cup finals with the FIFA World Cup. "Cup" already shows it is a competition, making "finals" redundant as it is referring to the whole tournament, and confusing because he has not scored in the final round of a FIFA World Cup tournament (refer to Gary_Lineker#International_goals). TheBetrayedOne ( talk) 07:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Can we put the information back in the article, this content fork [1] seems completely unnecessary. Govvy ( talk) 19:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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... that Gary Lineker was substituted in the 57th minute of his final national game, when he needed just 1 goal to equal the record for most goals for England; a record then held by Bobby Charlton.
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Total league goals for Tottenham Hotspur needs to be amended to 67 (i/o 57) in the career stats section. 2A02:C7F:7016:1000:807E:49AB:665B:8356 ( talk) 19:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Third paragraph - Introduction
Gary Lineker is now the fourth highest England goalscorer, as Harry Kane has now scored more goals. Source — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAlfman ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
His goals at Everton have not been counted in the total. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A04:4A43:4B3F:C6CF:0:0:CA5:5418 ( talk) 19:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Currently in the opening it says "where he presented the flagship football programme Match of the Day from the late 1990s until March 2023," As far as I am aware Lineker is still the host rather is stepping back from an indeterminate amount of time. Is it worth changing that back to say he is still the host. C. 22468 Talk to me 21:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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Request to add his appearance in the BAFTA winning drama Marvellous under "Media career" section. I realise it's not the biggest thing happening media-wise right now, but other cameo appearances get a mention & I'd like to see this added too. 95.145.86.26 ( talk) 17:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Match of the Day commentators
Steve Wilson,
Conor McNamara,
Robyn Cowen and
Steven Wyeth, in a joint statement online, also announced their auto-suspension
It's not at all clear to me what this means, and there's no wikilink available for "auto-suspension." Could this be clarified?
Pawnkingthree (
talk) 21:20, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
The piece on this is way too long. Wikipedia is suppossed to be an encylopedia not a blog. Coachtripfan ( talk) 19:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
"Lineker was the highest-paid BBC employee... " Was he an employee, or a freelance working under contract for services? S C Cheese ( talk) 16:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)