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I found a few article pages for the episodes at [1] that we could use and i'm wonderng if it would be copying if it's a wiki page and they are both from the same company NoD'ohnuts ( talk) 17:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts
I don't meet copy exactly I mean look at infomation and like make it into our own words. NoD'ohnuts ( talk) 00:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts
MSN TV has recently listed episodes through #7 (missed "Rebirth" somehow), but seems to include an unaccountable episode called "Lethal Inspection". Given that it's the only episode not currently on the table or the unaired episodes list, I'm left wondering if it's a new title for "Inspector #5". I've looked around the web, but couldn't find any confirmation of this. If anyone else can before the air date (July 22, 2010), it'd probably help, so we don't leave the old title on the unaired list when the new title airs (should this be the case). KnownAlias contact 20:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Comedy Central uses the production order/DVD order for numbering the season, making this season six. The broadcast order, is not a broadcast code, it just shows the order in which the episodes were broadcasted and as which season they were broadcasted. Because Fox aired the show even more out of sync than they do to other shows, Futurama was broadcasted as five seasons instead of the four in which they were produced. With four produced seasons, and five broadcasted seasons, and a fifth produced season as DVD-movies or sixth broadcasted season. This makes the six produced season the seventh broadcasted season. Comedy Central uses the DVD/produced order for counting there seasons, but because fox aired it in five instead of four, this makes that there is one season more broadcasted than produced. Xeworlebi ( t• c) 21:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Comedy Central officially calls this broadcast Season 6. They've never used the number seven for any broadcast of episodes in this production series. The fact they previously named the movie season "Season 6" shows that they absolutely do not name by production order. Production season 5 was never even aired as a continuous series, but rather as occasional specials several months apart, which is the most likely reason they've gone ahead and redubbed it "Season 0" (which would indicate that they are specials that do not belong in any particular broadcast season). Now can we please stop the edit war, seeing as WP:3RR has been violated already? -- .: Alex :. 21:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
( ←) No they are not, Comedy Central naming it season 0 doesn't all of a sudden not make it a season. Comedy Central can call this new season what they want. Your version creates a paradox were two episodes have the same broadcast order, which is simple impossible. The broadcast order has nothing to do with the production order, or by what naming Comedy Central goes by and changes on a whim. After five comes six, and after six comes seven. You seem to agree that the DVD-movies are a season because otherwise you would have deleted that page and moved this to Futurama (season 5), a season can be aired out of sync, and shifted around but it can't be part of a season and not part of a season at the same time. It was broadcasted as a new season, fact, history, because the broadcast order is a simple numbering, to make it clearer for viewers, it goes up, not down, and you can't have two episodes with the same number. This also goes for the new broadcast order were you started from zero on Futurama (season 5). the broadcast order is a simple ordering which goes up sequentially, for a new episode it goes up 1 after the E, if a new season starts it goes up one after the S, Comedy Central names this season six, like we do, but because of math and +1 logic, this is the seventh season that has aired if Comedy Central names it that way or not. Xeworlebi ( t• c) 06:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
By the way, have there been reached any consensus on this matter on Wikipedia? Or is it still going back and forth. We are having a similar discussion over at our wiki and we are probably going with changing it to what Comedy Central is calling it. -- Svip pong 12:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
LATEST UPDATE: This official press release on TV By the Numbers does show that Comedy Central is considering these 26 episodes seasons 6A and 6B, and the next batch seasons 7A and 7B. Just for the sake of saying it. KnownAlias contact 18:58, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Can people stop messing up the production season list because of this debate about what constitutes what broadcast season please. Benderama does NOT have the production code 7ACV01 and there is absolutely no proof of such. It is an unknown 6ACV episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega cyber turnip ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I believe the context of the original sentence, "This episode is being written to serve as an open-ended series finale in case the show does not get picked up for another production season" is entirely appropriate. The insinuation with series is that the producers are anticipating the returning possibility that they will again not be renewed, and are writing the episode as the series finale (open-ended so they can again recover the series if they are actually renewed). That is, of course, if there is verification to prove that is their intent. Otherwise, an open-ended season finale; isn't that just a cliffhanger? KnownAlias contact 15:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
The broadcast order is the wrong order. It only applies to Comedy Central's initial airings of the episodes (elsewhere everyone and everything uses Production order). All show continuity is based on production order as that is the order the show is meant to be watched in. Why are people changing this to broadcast order? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 19:44, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The show has plenty of continuity. The IP and A are blatantly wrong on that count. Here is an example, before Bender's Game, Nibbler's excrement was never thrown away, afterwards it is. If you don't think there is continuity, spend sometime reading the Infosphere. The broadcast order is wrong because the producers determine the correct order and thus assign them a production order. That production order is what all continuity is based off of. The producers have said in DVD commentaries that the broadcast order is wrong (in relation to Fox's shuffling at least). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 21:32, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
The only real reason I am seeing for changing to broadcast order is that less than diehard fans are getting confused. People getting confused is not actual merit for censoring facts. Does anyone seriously think that Volume 6 will be in anything other than production order? Even production seasons 2, 3, and 4, which were so screwed up were still in production order in their volumes. The same people (30th Century Fox) are still making the DVDs, we should not expect anything different. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 15:28, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
IP vandals continue to revert the page to broadcast order. Can we get this semi-protected. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 22:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I got this semiprotected until the DVD/BD is released. Once it is established that the DVD/BD uses the correct production order, talk about the broadcast order should disappear. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 02:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
OK since I independently edited the page before it being reverted and informed about this discussion I would like to add my two cents: Production code does not always equal the intended order of the episodes. While it usually the case this does not mean it is always the case I would like to point to a very recent example: Doctor Who (series 6). The 3rd episode broadcast, The Curse of the Black Spot, has the production code 2.9, however for anyone familiar with the show knows that the episode contains a scene that is part of a story arc, a section of which is completed in the 5th to 7th episodes, which respectively have the production codes 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7. The end result is that an episode that was broadcast and clearly shown in story as being set before them has a later production code. The point is don't put everything in the production code simply because of the fact it is the production code. The Light6 ( talk) 13:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Partly dittoing Knownalias. Animated shows don't compare to live shows. Live shows have different dynamics and actors and sets, so sometimes things can't be produced in their intended order. That is not really the case for animated shows like Futurama. Also, we already know that for this show, production order is the correct canonical order. Comparisons to Doctor Who (which is not comparable) are no excuse for your edit against consensus. You should have looked at the talk pages first. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 18:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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I found a few article pages for the episodes at [1] that we could use and i'm wonderng if it would be copying if it's a wiki page and they are both from the same company NoD'ohnuts ( talk) 17:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts
I don't meet copy exactly I mean look at infomation and like make it into our own words. NoD'ohnuts ( talk) 00:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts
MSN TV has recently listed episodes through #7 (missed "Rebirth" somehow), but seems to include an unaccountable episode called "Lethal Inspection". Given that it's the only episode not currently on the table or the unaired episodes list, I'm left wondering if it's a new title for "Inspector #5". I've looked around the web, but couldn't find any confirmation of this. If anyone else can before the air date (July 22, 2010), it'd probably help, so we don't leave the old title on the unaired list when the new title airs (should this be the case). KnownAlias contact 20:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Comedy Central uses the production order/DVD order for numbering the season, making this season six. The broadcast order, is not a broadcast code, it just shows the order in which the episodes were broadcasted and as which season they were broadcasted. Because Fox aired the show even more out of sync than they do to other shows, Futurama was broadcasted as five seasons instead of the four in which they were produced. With four produced seasons, and five broadcasted seasons, and a fifth produced season as DVD-movies or sixth broadcasted season. This makes the six produced season the seventh broadcasted season. Comedy Central uses the DVD/produced order for counting there seasons, but because fox aired it in five instead of four, this makes that there is one season more broadcasted than produced. Xeworlebi ( t• c) 21:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Comedy Central officially calls this broadcast Season 6. They've never used the number seven for any broadcast of episodes in this production series. The fact they previously named the movie season "Season 6" shows that they absolutely do not name by production order. Production season 5 was never even aired as a continuous series, but rather as occasional specials several months apart, which is the most likely reason they've gone ahead and redubbed it "Season 0" (which would indicate that they are specials that do not belong in any particular broadcast season). Now can we please stop the edit war, seeing as WP:3RR has been violated already? -- .: Alex :. 21:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
( ←) No they are not, Comedy Central naming it season 0 doesn't all of a sudden not make it a season. Comedy Central can call this new season what they want. Your version creates a paradox were two episodes have the same broadcast order, which is simple impossible. The broadcast order has nothing to do with the production order, or by what naming Comedy Central goes by and changes on a whim. After five comes six, and after six comes seven. You seem to agree that the DVD-movies are a season because otherwise you would have deleted that page and moved this to Futurama (season 5), a season can be aired out of sync, and shifted around but it can't be part of a season and not part of a season at the same time. It was broadcasted as a new season, fact, history, because the broadcast order is a simple numbering, to make it clearer for viewers, it goes up, not down, and you can't have two episodes with the same number. This also goes for the new broadcast order were you started from zero on Futurama (season 5). the broadcast order is a simple ordering which goes up sequentially, for a new episode it goes up 1 after the E, if a new season starts it goes up one after the S, Comedy Central names this season six, like we do, but because of math and +1 logic, this is the seventh season that has aired if Comedy Central names it that way or not. Xeworlebi ( t• c) 06:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
By the way, have there been reached any consensus on this matter on Wikipedia? Or is it still going back and forth. We are having a similar discussion over at our wiki and we are probably going with changing it to what Comedy Central is calling it. -- Svip pong 12:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
LATEST UPDATE: This official press release on TV By the Numbers does show that Comedy Central is considering these 26 episodes seasons 6A and 6B, and the next batch seasons 7A and 7B. Just for the sake of saying it. KnownAlias contact 18:58, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Can people stop messing up the production season list because of this debate about what constitutes what broadcast season please. Benderama does NOT have the production code 7ACV01 and there is absolutely no proof of such. It is an unknown 6ACV episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega cyber turnip ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I believe the context of the original sentence, "This episode is being written to serve as an open-ended series finale in case the show does not get picked up for another production season" is entirely appropriate. The insinuation with series is that the producers are anticipating the returning possibility that they will again not be renewed, and are writing the episode as the series finale (open-ended so they can again recover the series if they are actually renewed). That is, of course, if there is verification to prove that is their intent. Otherwise, an open-ended season finale; isn't that just a cliffhanger? KnownAlias contact 15:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
The broadcast order is the wrong order. It only applies to Comedy Central's initial airings of the episodes (elsewhere everyone and everything uses Production order). All show continuity is based on production order as that is the order the show is meant to be watched in. Why are people changing this to broadcast order? Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 19:44, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
The show has plenty of continuity. The IP and A are blatantly wrong on that count. Here is an example, before Bender's Game, Nibbler's excrement was never thrown away, afterwards it is. If you don't think there is continuity, spend sometime reading the Infosphere. The broadcast order is wrong because the producers determine the correct order and thus assign them a production order. That production order is what all continuity is based off of. The producers have said in DVD commentaries that the broadcast order is wrong (in relation to Fox's shuffling at least). Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 21:32, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
The only real reason I am seeing for changing to broadcast order is that less than diehard fans are getting confused. People getting confused is not actual merit for censoring facts. Does anyone seriously think that Volume 6 will be in anything other than production order? Even production seasons 2, 3, and 4, which were so screwed up were still in production order in their volumes. The same people (30th Century Fox) are still making the DVDs, we should not expect anything different. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 15:28, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
IP vandals continue to revert the page to broadcast order. Can we get this semi-protected. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 22:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I got this semiprotected until the DVD/BD is released. Once it is established that the DVD/BD uses the correct production order, talk about the broadcast order should disappear. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 02:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
OK since I independently edited the page before it being reverted and informed about this discussion I would like to add my two cents: Production code does not always equal the intended order of the episodes. While it usually the case this does not mean it is always the case I would like to point to a very recent example: Doctor Who (series 6). The 3rd episode broadcast, The Curse of the Black Spot, has the production code 2.9, however for anyone familiar with the show knows that the episode contains a scene that is part of a story arc, a section of which is completed in the 5th to 7th episodes, which respectively have the production codes 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7. The end result is that an episode that was broadcast and clearly shown in story as being set before them has a later production code. The point is don't put everything in the production code simply because of the fact it is the production code. The Light6 ( talk) 13:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Partly dittoing Knownalias. Animated shows don't compare to live shows. Live shows have different dynamics and actors and sets, so sometimes things can't be produced in their intended order. That is not really the case for animated shows like Futurama. Also, we already know that for this show, production order is the correct canonical order. Comparisons to Doctor Who (which is not comparable) are no excuse for your edit against consensus. You should have looked at the talk pages first. Thegreyanomaly ( talk) 18:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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