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Removed the sentence stating that Froggy Fresh was going to join the View. Not cited, although I'm sure that would be hilarious. Shenkerism ( talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
This is what the Wikipedia considers a part of the "sum of all human knowledge"? As if we needed further proof that the Wikipedia doesn't know what knowledge fundamentally is... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.3.223 ( talk) 08:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that this guy deserves a wiki and don't even deny that since this guy has been featured on Huff Post, Barstool Sports, CBS, AOL.com, NASDAQ, and a whole lot of other reliable sources. Soulboost ( talk) 17:45, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
No serious encyclopedia would include up to date information either. Are you aware the real encyclopedias need to be printed, distributed and bought? By the time someone buys the encyclopedia, thousands of other things could of been added to it. That's why Wikipedia is looked at as a serious source of information. And due to that, wikipedia articles need to have references and sources to prove their importance which this one does. Just because you disagree with some articles does not mean that they don't deserve to have a wikipedia page. Soulboost ( talk) 23:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Where do you get that he's from Birmingham? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugefun ( talk • contribs) 13:27, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
He's not. He's from Michigan. Krispy Kreme is just a character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaxo1 ( talk • contribs) 15:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
The source that says he is 21 (the first source) doesn't actually say that he is 21, it says that he looks like a 21 year old version of some celebrity; should the birth date be taken out or does this source constitute saying that he is 21?-- Counthektor ( talk) 01:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
While the image of the face of 'Tyler Cassidy' at http://blog.mlive.com/flintcommunity_impact/2008/06/Graduates_section.pdf is very similar to Krispy Kreme, the age difference, weight difference, and poor image quality (e.g., inability to distinguish eye color) make it difficult to be certain. Until a stronger source can be cited, I have deleted origin and source data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.228.19 ( talk) 00:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I know for sure he is Tyler Cassidy. I found his Facebook which has his birthdate which is now blocked but it included his brother and sisters names and you can see references to Tyler dating back to 2010 and they are also friends with Tyler Newby who is Money Maker Mike but their pages were made years before Krispy Kreme so they have to be real. He also has a photobucket account he hasn't used in a year under the name 'tscassidy10' which his pictures of him on it that weren't in any videos and even some childhood pictures. Also I viewed his old YouTube page 'ihearttylercassidy' which had him telling people to watch his old songs that were deleted when I saw it but he's deleted that now. But I am 100% sure he's Tyler Cassidy. This is the photobucket http://s292.photobucket.com/home/tscassidy10 I dtf4nd ( talk) 2 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtf4nd ( talk • contribs)
I continue to delete poorly sourced and non-sourced data that is perpetually uploaded to this article. Someone, for the love of God, provide some REAL source data and end this nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.228.19 ( talk) 20:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
From what I've gathered, any mention of Tyler Cassidy and the numerous sources that VERIFY that this is Krispy Kreme will be ignored or deleted because he does not say it himself. Could you so-called admins please elaborate on what you would accept, or will you continue to be vague and delete valuable information to this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubevision93 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
So even with 2 NEW SOURCES ( Complex (magazine) and Slacktory) 71.80.228.19 still deletes the proof. Krispy is Tyler Cassidy. Also this is one of the edit summaries: "Deleted unsourced data - if you know nothing about this article, then read the talk page BEFORE making any chages!" Really? Unsourced? Clearly 4 SOURCES (complex, slacktory, refinedhype and The Flint Journal) isn't enough. And let me address this part: "if you know nothing about this article," I'm not quite sure if this was directed at me but if it is how can I possibly not know anything about the article if I was the one that created it? The 'new' sources listed by Soulbutt were nothing more than the same sources being listed by by bloggers who provided no additional information whatsoever. Thank you for giving me a nickname that I'm sure was needed and for giving the same excuse of deleting the proof. I won't re-add the references that report that Cassidy is Krispy because it's become clear that you will delete any references that say Cassidy is Krispy. Soulboost ( talk) 22:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with Orange Mike. This is still no hard evidence to suport that Krispy is Tyler, all you have is speculation and hearsay from different sources. Just because a few websites think they are the same person is not actual evidence proving he is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.250.51 ( talk) 02:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
There are tons of sources out there that prove beyond a doubt that Krispy Kreme and Tyler Cassidy are the same person, yet when added to this article, this information keeps getting deleted. Even when 4 sources are posted with news articles, pictures, names, and all. It's ridiculous that these updates keep getting removed when so many sources are provided. Krispy Kreme is just a character, not a living person. Just because he hasn't admitted it himself doesn't mean it isn't a fact. Many articles on here contain information about people that is sourced but the subject of the article would never admit to themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaxo1 ( talk • contribs) 15:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh so you guys are suggesting that a hoax started that Krispy Kreme was Tyler Cassidy and months after the fact Krispy just happens to use that name for copyright despite the speculation.It doesn't make sense. Ive found baby pictures and pictures posted on an account called tscassidy10 from like 2010. Did someone make a fake account of a random guy before he was famous. I even found mikes twitter and krispy kremes brothers instagram which has pictures of mike and tyler on it that have not been released to the internet in any other fashion. Any contradictions to the truth of Tyler's identity don't add up and make this page incomplete. Wikipedia isn't Amercia and Wikipedia's Verifiability rules aren't the constitution. Getting the well established truth written for the people shouldn't be a long and grueling process especially when as many sources and evidence has been presented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtf4nd ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
This sentence While Froggy has never revealed his real full birth name, nor his birthplace,
Huffington Post, among other news outlets, have reported that Froggy is a
Michigan native named Tyler Cassidy. should not be removed from the article. The sentence holds the fact that Froggy has not revealed his real identity, nor does it state that Froggy's real identity is Tyler Cassidy. It only states that HP has reported that his true identity is Tyler Cassidy. HP reporting and writing an article about his identity is a fact. The sentence should remain because it fits into his personal life, and how he hasn't revealed much about it, which is supported by this part of the sentence: While Froggy has never revealed his real full birth name, nor his birthplace, The sentence is cited in the article, as well.
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I can find no source for Krispy Kreme's origin, so I have deleted the data per the article on the Citation Needed tag. The Krispy Kreme YouTube page no longer displays Krispy Kreme's age, but I have left the age because it was verified from the YouTube page on the date listed, many other sources report the same thing, and I'm not sure what to do with it otherwise. -- MadenssContinued ( talk) 20:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because his videos have received a great deal of online success, including almost 10 million views for his video "The Baddest" on Youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.18.74 ( talk) 02:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Although I am not aware of any public announcement of Froggy Fresh being signed to a label, songs published to the FroggyFreshVEVO channel do include the statement "©: 2013 Bad Boy/Interscope Records". A direct link to a YouTube video would be a better source than iroots.org. I changed the article to reflect this and also removed unsourced statement that Froggy Fresh disputed the legitimacy of the new Vevo channel. MadenssContinued ( talk) 20:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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This also allows me to repost one of my favorite Good Morning News videos of the entire year—Froggy Fresh and Money Maker Mike performing "Dunked On."Since the sentence already cites to a much better source, I'm removing the PortMerc piece.
There are other sources that should be removed, and I'll comment on them here or in edit summaries as I find them. Alyo ( chat· edits) 14:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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Removed the sentence stating that Froggy Fresh was going to join the View. Not cited, although I'm sure that would be hilarious. Shenkerism ( talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
This is what the Wikipedia considers a part of the "sum of all human knowledge"? As if we needed further proof that the Wikipedia doesn't know what knowledge fundamentally is... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.3.223 ( talk) 08:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that this guy deserves a wiki and don't even deny that since this guy has been featured on Huff Post, Barstool Sports, CBS, AOL.com, NASDAQ, and a whole lot of other reliable sources. Soulboost ( talk) 17:45, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
No serious encyclopedia would include up to date information either. Are you aware the real encyclopedias need to be printed, distributed and bought? By the time someone buys the encyclopedia, thousands of other things could of been added to it. That's why Wikipedia is looked at as a serious source of information. And due to that, wikipedia articles need to have references and sources to prove their importance which this one does. Just because you disagree with some articles does not mean that they don't deserve to have a wikipedia page. Soulboost ( talk) 23:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Where do you get that he's from Birmingham? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugefun ( talk • contribs) 13:27, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
He's not. He's from Michigan. Krispy Kreme is just a character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaxo1 ( talk • contribs) 15:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
The source that says he is 21 (the first source) doesn't actually say that he is 21, it says that he looks like a 21 year old version of some celebrity; should the birth date be taken out or does this source constitute saying that he is 21?-- Counthektor ( talk) 01:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
While the image of the face of 'Tyler Cassidy' at http://blog.mlive.com/flintcommunity_impact/2008/06/Graduates_section.pdf is very similar to Krispy Kreme, the age difference, weight difference, and poor image quality (e.g., inability to distinguish eye color) make it difficult to be certain. Until a stronger source can be cited, I have deleted origin and source data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.228.19 ( talk) 00:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I know for sure he is Tyler Cassidy. I found his Facebook which has his birthdate which is now blocked but it included his brother and sisters names and you can see references to Tyler dating back to 2010 and they are also friends with Tyler Newby who is Money Maker Mike but their pages were made years before Krispy Kreme so they have to be real. He also has a photobucket account he hasn't used in a year under the name 'tscassidy10' which his pictures of him on it that weren't in any videos and even some childhood pictures. Also I viewed his old YouTube page 'ihearttylercassidy' which had him telling people to watch his old songs that were deleted when I saw it but he's deleted that now. But I am 100% sure he's Tyler Cassidy. This is the photobucket http://s292.photobucket.com/home/tscassidy10 I dtf4nd ( talk) 2 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtf4nd ( talk • contribs)
I continue to delete poorly sourced and non-sourced data that is perpetually uploaded to this article. Someone, for the love of God, provide some REAL source data and end this nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.228.19 ( talk) 20:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
From what I've gathered, any mention of Tyler Cassidy and the numerous sources that VERIFY that this is Krispy Kreme will be ignored or deleted because he does not say it himself. Could you so-called admins please elaborate on what you would accept, or will you continue to be vague and delete valuable information to this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubevision93 ( talk • contribs) 01:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
So even with 2 NEW SOURCES ( Complex (magazine) and Slacktory) 71.80.228.19 still deletes the proof. Krispy is Tyler Cassidy. Also this is one of the edit summaries: "Deleted unsourced data - if you know nothing about this article, then read the talk page BEFORE making any chages!" Really? Unsourced? Clearly 4 SOURCES (complex, slacktory, refinedhype and The Flint Journal) isn't enough. And let me address this part: "if you know nothing about this article," I'm not quite sure if this was directed at me but if it is how can I possibly not know anything about the article if I was the one that created it? The 'new' sources listed by Soulbutt were nothing more than the same sources being listed by by bloggers who provided no additional information whatsoever. Thank you for giving me a nickname that I'm sure was needed and for giving the same excuse of deleting the proof. I won't re-add the references that report that Cassidy is Krispy because it's become clear that you will delete any references that say Cassidy is Krispy. Soulboost ( talk) 22:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with Orange Mike. This is still no hard evidence to suport that Krispy is Tyler, all you have is speculation and hearsay from different sources. Just because a few websites think they are the same person is not actual evidence proving he is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.250.51 ( talk) 02:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
There are tons of sources out there that prove beyond a doubt that Krispy Kreme and Tyler Cassidy are the same person, yet when added to this article, this information keeps getting deleted. Even when 4 sources are posted with news articles, pictures, names, and all. It's ridiculous that these updates keep getting removed when so many sources are provided. Krispy Kreme is just a character, not a living person. Just because he hasn't admitted it himself doesn't mean it isn't a fact. Many articles on here contain information about people that is sourced but the subject of the article would never admit to themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaxo1 ( talk • contribs) 15:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh so you guys are suggesting that a hoax started that Krispy Kreme was Tyler Cassidy and months after the fact Krispy just happens to use that name for copyright despite the speculation.It doesn't make sense. Ive found baby pictures and pictures posted on an account called tscassidy10 from like 2010. Did someone make a fake account of a random guy before he was famous. I even found mikes twitter and krispy kremes brothers instagram which has pictures of mike and tyler on it that have not been released to the internet in any other fashion. Any contradictions to the truth of Tyler's identity don't add up and make this page incomplete. Wikipedia isn't Amercia and Wikipedia's Verifiability rules aren't the constitution. Getting the well established truth written for the people shouldn't be a long and grueling process especially when as many sources and evidence has been presented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtf4nd ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
This sentence While Froggy has never revealed his real full birth name, nor his birthplace,
Huffington Post, among other news outlets, have reported that Froggy is a
Michigan native named Tyler Cassidy. should not be removed from the article. The sentence holds the fact that Froggy has not revealed his real identity, nor does it state that Froggy's real identity is Tyler Cassidy. It only states that HP has reported that his true identity is Tyler Cassidy. HP reporting and writing an article about his identity is a fact. The sentence should remain because it fits into his personal life, and how he hasn't revealed much about it, which is supported by this part of the sentence: While Froggy has never revealed his real full birth name, nor his birthplace, The sentence is cited in the article, as well.
Soulbust (
talk) 05:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
I can find no source for Krispy Kreme's origin, so I have deleted the data per the article on the Citation Needed tag. The Krispy Kreme YouTube page no longer displays Krispy Kreme's age, but I have left the age because it was verified from the YouTube page on the date listed, many other sources report the same thing, and I'm not sure what to do with it otherwise. -- MadenssContinued ( talk) 20:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because his videos have received a great deal of online success, including almost 10 million views for his video "The Baddest" on Youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.18.74 ( talk) 02:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Although I am not aware of any public announcement of Froggy Fresh being signed to a label, songs published to the FroggyFreshVEVO channel do include the statement "©: 2013 Bad Boy/Interscope Records". A direct link to a YouTube video would be a better source than iroots.org. I changed the article to reflect this and also removed unsourced statement that Froggy Fresh disputed the legitimacy of the new Vevo channel. MadenssContinued ( talk) 20:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi @ Soulbust, I have some different thoughts about RS and V, so I've left more detailed thoughts here regarding my edits:
This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site.This is not a standard HuffPo piece, it's a contributor blog and entirely unreliable. I've removed it.
This also allows me to repost one of my favorite Good Morning News videos of the entire year—Froggy Fresh and Money Maker Mike performing "Dunked On."Since the sentence already cites to a much better source, I'm removing the PortMerc piece.
There are other sources that should be removed, and I'll comment on them here or in edit summaries as I find them. Alyo ( chat· edits) 14:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)