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No need for an edit war here. Rjensen ( talk) 22:28, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Here's the passage that Brigade Piron deleted without any discussion: In the last days of combat in June 1940, German units killed several thousand black soldiers and POWs in French colonial regiments. About 60,000 black soldiers survived, and were treated like the other colonial POWs, but not as well as the French men.<ref>Raffael Scheck, ''Hitler's African Victims: The German Army Massacres of Black French Soldiers in 1940'' (2008) pp. 2-4</ref> And here is Prion's comment, which is clearly mistaken: " Can you check your information? It seems unlikely that 60,000 POWs were massacred within the space of a month, even for Nazi Germany" [rj: the deleted text says 60,000 SURVIVED and Piron reads that as 60,000 KILLED; Scheck's book p 53 says the number murdered was in the 1000-1500 range] Rjensen ( talk) 23:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Further discussion on this point here:
This article does not mention (a) any French POWs of the Italians, (b) any POWs of the British in the Mideast or Madagascar, (c) any POWs of Japan in the Far East, assuming there were some, or (d) any Vichy POWs of the Free French (e.g., in Gabon). It is all about French POWs of Germany. I know that about 150 POWs of the Italians were forgotten by the Vichy government, but were treated in accordance with the laws of war by the Italians. The POWs in Syria are described briefly in our article on that campaign. I know there was a POW camp run by De Gaulle's men in Brazzaville. Srnec ( talk) 01:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
No need for an edit war here. Rjensen ( talk) 22:28, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Here's the passage that Brigade Piron deleted without any discussion: In the last days of combat in June 1940, German units killed several thousand black soldiers and POWs in French colonial regiments. About 60,000 black soldiers survived, and were treated like the other colonial POWs, but not as well as the French men.<ref>Raffael Scheck, ''Hitler's African Victims: The German Army Massacres of Black French Soldiers in 1940'' (2008) pp. 2-4</ref> And here is Prion's comment, which is clearly mistaken: " Can you check your information? It seems unlikely that 60,000 POWs were massacred within the space of a month, even for Nazi Germany" [rj: the deleted text says 60,000 SURVIVED and Piron reads that as 60,000 KILLED; Scheck's book p 53 says the number murdered was in the 1000-1500 range] Rjensen ( talk) 23:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Further discussion on this point here:
This article does not mention (a) any French POWs of the Italians, (b) any POWs of the British in the Mideast or Madagascar, (c) any POWs of Japan in the Far East, assuming there were some, or (d) any Vichy POWs of the Free French (e.g., in Gabon). It is all about French POWs of Germany. I know that about 150 POWs of the Italians were forgotten by the Vichy government, but were treated in accordance with the laws of war by the Italians. The POWs in Syria are described briefly in our article on that campaign. I know there was a POW camp run by De Gaulle's men in Brazzaville. Srnec ( talk) 01:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)