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A review of this article leads one to think it was written as an ad piece, and is without alot of citation, and contains alot of POV statements. I am disputing the neutrality of this article, and would like to begin discussion here.
IlliniGradResearch ( talk) 15:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Agreed this is unbearably one-sided!!! Only passing acknowledgement of the "astroturfing" and corporate contributions aspect that I believe is essentially proven. See, e.g., http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks or http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=1497377
... or for entertainment Chris Matthews slam of the org at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNXeDtFNYY
-- Andrew/ doug123w —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug123w ( talk • contribs) 06:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Somebody might have gone overboard in taking out the "pro-ness", with negative, inaccurate buzzwords. I changed one sentence about Koch.
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The insurance thing is not about freedomworks. Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) is the organization accused of signing people up through MSAs. Unless anyone has any objection in a week I will move that section from FreedomWork's page to CSE's page
“ | Citizens for a Sound Economy -- now called FreedomWorks and headed by former House majority leader Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.) -- has netted more than $638,000 and about 16,000 members through the sale of insurance policies. | ” |
merging FreedomWorks and Citizens for a Sound Economy would make sense 74.8.97.18 17:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The articles lists and categorizes Freedom Works as a conservative organization. Considering its focus, could it also be considered libertarian? Granted, the two overlap, but the focus seems to be more on economic issues and reduction of government than more traditional conserative issues. -- Amcalabrese ( talk) 00:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Why was the article Empower America deleted and moved to here? Why would someone delete the history of an organization even if they did morph or merge into this new organization? Should we merge the 13 Colonies with the United States of America or Dodge Motor Company with Chrysler? It is the equivalent of eradicating history to delete an article and redirect it to another. Stevenmitchell ( talk) 18:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Could the people sticking in 'enrage' into the introduction please comply with the Wikipedia requirement to provide citations for things like that. Please see WP:Five pillars about contributing constructively to Wikipedia. Dmcq ( talk) 12:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
A very British Tea Party: US anti-tax activists advise UK counterparts: London conference sees American rightwing movement share tactics with British and European tax lobby groups Some excerpts: " Libertarian US Tea Party organisations attended a conference in London today to share tactics with British and European taxpayer lobby groups, and described their activities as 'an insurgent campaign' against their government's tax and spending policies." " Terry Kibbe, a consultant at Freedom Works, which claims to convene 800,000 activists, told the Guardian she wants to help mobilise otherwise cerebral political institutions in the UK and Europe by helping them create grassroots activist wings." "Freedom Works trains Tea Party activists in running mass demonstrations and provides access to bespoke-designed software to allow activists to set up powerful computer networks that would otherwise be too expensive. It has also published an activist manual and will shortly issue a 'Rules for Patriots' booklet." "Americans for Prosperity ... headed by oil billionaire David Koch, was also represented at the London conference, and helped fund it." ""We have been working to identify groups in Europe that would be amenable to becoming more activist-based, think tanks that could start activist wings," said Kibbe. 'We have worked with the Taxpayers' Alliance, in Austria and in Italy, and we want to do more.' " "Other leading US rightwing thinktanks that financed the conference include the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation, the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation. Conservative MPs Peter Lilley and Robert Halfon spoke at the event, which was also attended by representatives from Philip Morris and Imperial Tobacco, the Global Warming Policy Foundation, a Climate change skeptical thinktank led by Lord Lawson, and BP. "'We need to reach out to a broader audience," said Barbara Kohn, secretary-general of the Hayek Institute in Vienna, which is one of Europe's leading low tax campaigners and has also been advised by Freedom Works. 'We need to come from various angles. We have all seen what our friends in the Tea Party movement, and their march, have achieved.'" Useful to this article? 99.54.143.8 ( talk) 02:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
The article reads:
FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. ... Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks,
Those statements, although both apparently sourced, clearly contradict each other. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently added this information to the article:
"FreedomWorks has been criticized by the Center for Public Integrity for how much it pays some of its employees. Former chairman Dick Armey was paid $500,000 per year (Washington Post source) and flew first class, along with other FreedomWorks employees, for work travel. President and CEO Matt Kibbe is paid $320,000 per year. Kibbe's wife, Terry, is a fundraiser for FreedomWorks.(Huffington Post/Center for Public Integrity source)"
This information has repeatedly been removed by an editor who has said: 1) "Undue weight for unremarkable leftist complaint against a conservative group." 2) "That HuffPo would complain is boilerplate. Find something that says that this is actually something people are talking about." 3) "Misrepresentation of Washpo Source. There is no criticism there. Quit pushing the POV"
I would note that I inserted the Washington Post source directly after "Armey was paid $500,000 per year," which the Washington Post source verifies. The data in both of these articles is taken directly from the group's 990, so I'm not sure how that can have a point of view. It is a point of view to put this in the criticism section (although the Huffington Post/Center for Public Integrity source is critical, that is their point of view). This information does seem relevant given Armey's pay-out. We could include this information elsewhere in the article if it would be more amenable. Perhaps a section called "executive pay?" Please discuss. Thanks. Safehaven86 ( talk) 17:30, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't an article be about the resignation of FreedomWorks' chair Dick Armey? This was a significant turning point in FreedomWorks' timeline. Gabefair ( talk) 01:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Aside from the rdue suggestion that it was a "pointed disruption," why was this edit of mine was reverted? Gobbleygook ( talk) 01:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
In the infobox, three legal statuses are provided. One website is provided. That is wrong, and very misleading. No organization can have more than one FEC filing status at the same time. This status determines what each organization can and can't do, and this shouldn't be muddled in the Wikipedia article. Sometimes Wikipedia combines all related organizations in one article, especially in one is a very minor subgroup such as an Education arm. I think that's how League of Women Voters is handled. Sometimes each organization has its own article. Either method works, but we need to be clear on which does what. If this is going to remain one article, then each org must be clearly connected with its own official site and legal status. 71.23.178.214 ( talk) 21:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
While I've avoided participating in the discussions on when and how to properly include "climate change denial" in articles about people and organizations, assuming the disputes will go to ArbCom at some point, this definitely seems like a organization that deserves the label. The Mother Jones ref is fine alone, but maybe with other references we could justify a stronger statement. -- Ronz ( talk) 00:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
"According to a December, 2009 article in Mother Jones magazine, FreedomWorks was one of the twelve most significant organizations in promulgating climate disinformation."
" WP:UNDUE isn't a factor" My understanding is that when it comes to content, NPOV is always a factor. Either the material is due or not. If it is not due as sourced, then my understanding is that:
This article appears to violate Wiki's rules as it blatantly endorses a book by a "member" of this group. It clearly endorses certain politicians over others. Most concerning for me, it references legislation that it "supports" that I contributed to. In this particular case, the legislation is distinctly bi-partisan aimed at helping to resolve a major issue impacting the lives of citizens and the finances of the United States. Bi-Partisanship is clearly documented when looking at the bill's text and legislators associated with it. National references from major news sources and publication are also bi-partisan.
Ironically, this articles appears to lack proper citation for many references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yhtak2014 ( talk • contribs) 15:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Kibbe has apparently moved on. Who is the current President?
Kibbe has apparently moved on. Who is the current President?
There is a "special report" from Mother Jones[ http://www.motherjones.com/special-reports/2009/12/dirty-dozen-climate-change-denial ] titled "The Dirty Dozen of Climate Change Denial" that is being used as a source on multiple pages, [3] including this one. Please comment there, and perhaps we can come to a consensus that applies to all the pages where this is used.
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This section only cites its own material ( WP:OR, WP:PRIMARY, WP:MISSION apply), except for one source. — Paleo Neonate – 17:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Karapally: has removed information apparently verified verified by the Politico ref, providing a National Review article as rationale, but without using that article as a reference in the modified version.
Per RSP, Politico is a better reference source in general.
Doesn't https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/dick-armey-freedomworks-kibbe-book-contract-smoking-gun/ verify the information? And https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/dick-armey-defends-million-deal-leave-freedomworks/story?id=18077760 ?
Should the information be restored, supported by the additional Mother Jones and ABC News articles? -- Hipal ( talk) 01:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
To get some idea if the cautionary labeling was accurate, I looked at editors scrubbing article. Some are almost certain Freedom Works or affiliated, i.e., Karapally, an SPA, and 38.140.165.74, which geolocates to Arlington, VA, and 98.204.52.203 to Washington, D.C. Activist ( talk) 01:29, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
I reverted the recent expansion [4] because it was not supported by the references without SYN problems and relying on the HuffPost ref that shouldn't be used per WP:RSP. There may be references in Cleta Mitchell that we could use, or others to be found. -- Hipal ( talk) 17:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Michael and I work for FreedomWorks. I will present a few requests for your review, given my declared COI. Kindly provide feedback or get back to me if anything needs modification. The requests generally seek to update the article with quality information backed by reliable sourcing. I will begin with two brief new sections, and will then follow-up with other changes requested throughout the article, these being mostly additions. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience. I will start with the first request below:
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The FreedomWorks Foundation is aimed, according to its website, at "educating and empowering Americans with the principles of individual liberty, small government, and free markets". As of 2018, it had $1.1 million in total assets. [1] In 2020, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation donated $100,000, plus $275,000 to the FreedomWorks Foundation to "support the Save Our Country initiative". The Save Our Country initiative launched in April 2020 by the FreedomWorks Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Tea Party Patriots, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and other right-wing organizations "to push for a quick reopening of the states". [2] [3] [4] [5] The effort was part of a $5 million fundraising drive, as well as a push to "mobilize activists to join 'liberate' demonstrations in more than 10 states", according to The Guardian. [6] In January 2020, the Foundation released a report on congressional reform. The report states legislators "ceded many of its constitutionally delegated powers to the executive branch and concentrated most of the rest in the hands of congressional leadership." They continue that their proposals for regulatory reform, as well as changes to the budgetary process, "will be met with skepticism from the left, as will their dismissal of the federal bureaucracy in general as an 'unconstitutional fourth branch of government.'" [7] Following the release of this report, FreedomWorks and other coalition members released a "Grading our Governors" scorecard on Governors' responses to handling the Coronavirus pandemic and its economic impact. Governor Ron DeSantis was one of nine to score an A. [8] The Foundation has a number of programs focused on FreedomWorks' reform goals. For instance, FreedomWorks launched a program titled Building Education for Students Together (BEST). According to Laura Zorc, FreedomWorks director of education reform, BEST advocates a "four to six-year plan to change out school boards", replacing their members with candidates "who represent their views". Emphasizing the "importance of parents", Zorc highlighted "trying to empower parents to know that it's your [their] job". [9] As part of BEST, FreedomWorks provides activists with a 6-week course, some of its taught methods including organizing press conferences, tackling school board meetings, creating letter-writing campaigns and how to file ethics complaints. [10] Among its slogans, BEST includes "Stop Racism. Stop Hate. Stop Critical Race Theory." [11] Another of its programs is its National Election Protection Initiative, launched in March 2021. The group's focus is to "support initiatives to educate poll workers and poll watchers, register voters and clean up voter rolls."
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Please move the paragraph starting with "In 2011, FreedomWorks launched a Super PAC called FreedomWorks for America" to the start of this new section. I propose you delete the next sentence regarding supported candidates, given these will be mentioned elsewhere. Replace the latter, with this sentence to cap the paragraph: FreedomWorks for America actively participates in U.S. House and Senate campaigns. [16] Continue the section with: Some of the candidates the PAC has supported include Representatives Mo Brooks and Ted Budd for the U.S. Senate. [17] [18] On the U.S. House level, endorsements have included Reps. Yvette Herrell ( NM-02), Maria Elvira Salazar ( FL-27), Burgess Owens ( UT-04), Matt Rosendale ( MT-AL), Mary Miller ( IL-15), and Nancy Mace ( SC-01). [19] Additionally, FreedomWorks for America was heavily involved in the Georgia U.S. Senate runoffs, reporting $578,392 in spending on printing, canvassing, and television ads for the Georgia run-offs. [20] The PAC notably endorsed former state solicitor general Ted Cruz early in 2010 before he abandoned his bid for state attorney general. [21] He was again endorsed early in the Senate race while also receiving tea-party support. [22] In July 12 and July 17 2012, the PAC recorded $71,000 in expenditures for this race. [23] Please move the paragraph starting with "In the 2010 congressional elections, FreedomWorks endorsed a number of candidates, including Marco Rubio" to this location, in its entirety. Finish the section off with the following paragraph: FreedomWorks for America has been known for being supporters of Reps. Thomas Massie, [24] David Schweikert ( AZ-06), [25] Chip Roy ( TX-21), [26] Scott Perry ( PA-10), Andy Biggs ( AZ-05), [27] Steve Chabot ( OH-01), [28] Dave Brat ( VA-07), [29] and Mark Meadows ( NC-11). [30] Done with minor edits. Heartmusic678 ( talk) 14:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC) |
Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging further. MJrJohnson ( talk) 07:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hi again. I am Michael from FreedomWorks. Moving forwards with our copy edit of the article, I will now present the second request for consideration, given my declared COI. Kindly provide feedback or get back to me if anything needs modification. The requests generally seek to update the article with quality information backed by reliable sourcing. In this particular case I will continue with the Legislation section, it being mostly additions of new information. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience.
Before the FreedomWorks supported the Electricity Security and Affordability Act paragraph, incorporate the following:
During the United States debt-ceiling crisis of 2011, FreedomWorks succeeded in extracting a concession from House Speaker John Boehner to get his debt ceiling bill through the House. [1] Together with other tea party activists, FreedomWorks lobbied to "add a provision making a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution a prerequisite for raising the debt ceiling." [2] The group has also thrown its support for the Right to Try Act (H.R. 878), introduced in 2017, a bill that would "allow terminally ill patients unrestricted access to experimental drug treatments." [3] [4]
After the unaltered aforementioned paragraph, continue as follows:
FreedomWorks supported the repeal of ObamaCare in its entirety, holding several campaigns with this intent, and meeting with President Trump to lobby for this repeal. [5] In 2017 FreedomWorks lobbied in favor of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. [6]
Affix the next paragraph with new starting and closing sentences:
FreedomWorks has lobbied for criminal justice reform, most notably through its support of the First Step Act. [7] [8] It supports the Smarter Sentencing Act of 2015, REDEEM Act, [9] and Email Privacy Act. [10] FreedomWorks opposes net neutrality regulations and submitted formal comments [11] [12] to the FCC "urging them to stay the course on their Restoring Internet Freedom Order". [13]
Continue with the 5 new paragraphs that follow:
The organization supported House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) and Representative Zoe Lofgren's introduction of the bipartisan Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act in April 2021. The bill "requires the government to get a court order to compel data brokers to disclose data", stopping "law enforcement and intelligence agencies buying data on people in the U.S. and about Americans abroad, if the data was obtained from a user's account or device, or via deception, hacking, violations of a contract, privacy policy, or terms of service." It also "takes away the Attorney General's authority to grant civil immunity to providers and other third parties for assistance with surveillance not required or permitted by statute", among other provisions. [14] [15]
FreedomWorks supported Republican Congressman Mike Garcia of California's introduction of the Inflation Prevention Act in February 2022. The bill would "bar legislation, based on an analysis of each bill from the Congressional Budget Office, found to increase inflation until the year-over-year inflation rate drops below 4.5 percent." [16] Congressman Bill Huizenga, and Senators Marco Rubio, Rick Scott, Tim Scott, and John Thune also showed their support. [17] The bill was sent to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee, with no companion measure in the House. [18]
It also lobbied against the Protecting the Right to Organize Act (H.R. 842), claiming it was "one of the most anti-worker and anti-business bills that we have ever seen brought to the House floor", given it would target "workers who choose not to join unions". [19] [20] According to the National Review, FreedomWorks was among twenty groups that "helped lead" the "Save America" Coalition, effectively "killing" President Biden's Build Back Better bill. According to the publication, among other efforts the groups collaborated to run "millions of dollars worth of advertising" to "pound the airwaves" in West Virginia and Arizona, where Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema (Democrats who expressed their displeasure with some aspects of the bill) are from. [21]
FreedomWorks also notably supports the filibuster as a parliamentary tool, [22] particularly as it pertains to Republican tools to counter Democratic initiatives such as the For the People Act [23] or proposed controls on prescription drug prices. [24] Along similar lines, the organization opposes President Biden's proposal of subsidizing American chip production, stating the latter "should be funded by private enterprise and not the American taxpayer." [25]
In 2021 FreedomWorks helped lobby a bipartisan group of senators to "halt efforts to increase new funding for the Internal Revenue Service". [26]
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@ Heartmusic678: I am pinging you due to your implementation last time around. I more than understand if your schedule is busy. In any case, thank you again for your help so far and thoughtful review. Regards, MJrJohnson ( talk) 07:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Michael and I work for FreedomWorks. After the observations made above, I will copy edit and condense these requests to mere paragraphs for your consideration, given my declared COI. I will begin with two brief new sections, and will then follow-up with other changes requested throughout the article, these being mostly additions. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience. I will restart with the first request below:
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FreedomWorks Foundation The FreedomWorks Foundation had $1.1 million in total assets as of 2018. [1] In 2020, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation donated $100,000, plus $275,000 to the FreedomWorks Foundation to "support the Save Our Country initiative". [2] The Save Our Country initiative launched in April 2020 by the FreedomWorks Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Tea Party Patriots, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and other right-wing organizations "to push for a quick reopening of the states". [3] [4] The effort was part of a $5 million fundraising drive, as well as a push to "mobilize activists to join 'liberate' demonstrations in more than 10 states", according to The Guardian. [5]
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"support the Save Our Country initiative"needs a citation to a reliable source. House Blaster talk 03:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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A review of this article leads one to think it was written as an ad piece, and is without alot of citation, and contains alot of POV statements. I am disputing the neutrality of this article, and would like to begin discussion here.
IlliniGradResearch ( talk) 15:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Agreed this is unbearably one-sided!!! Only passing acknowledgement of the "astroturfing" and corporate contributions aspect that I believe is essentially proven. See, e.g., http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks or http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=1497377
... or for entertainment Chris Matthews slam of the org at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFNXeDtFNYY
-- Andrew/ doug123w —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug123w ( talk • contribs) 06:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Somebody might have gone overboard in taking out the "pro-ness", with negative, inaccurate buzzwords. I changed one sentence about Koch.
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The insurance thing is not about freedomworks. Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) is the organization accused of signing people up through MSAs. Unless anyone has any objection in a week I will move that section from FreedomWork's page to CSE's page
“ | Citizens for a Sound Economy -- now called FreedomWorks and headed by former House majority leader Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.) -- has netted more than $638,000 and about 16,000 members through the sale of insurance policies. | ” |
merging FreedomWorks and Citizens for a Sound Economy would make sense 74.8.97.18 17:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The articles lists and categorizes Freedom Works as a conservative organization. Considering its focus, could it also be considered libertarian? Granted, the two overlap, but the focus seems to be more on economic issues and reduction of government than more traditional conserative issues. -- Amcalabrese ( talk) 00:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Why was the article Empower America deleted and moved to here? Why would someone delete the history of an organization even if they did morph or merge into this new organization? Should we merge the 13 Colonies with the United States of America or Dodge Motor Company with Chrysler? It is the equivalent of eradicating history to delete an article and redirect it to another. Stevenmitchell ( talk) 18:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Could the people sticking in 'enrage' into the introduction please comply with the Wikipedia requirement to provide citations for things like that. Please see WP:Five pillars about contributing constructively to Wikipedia. Dmcq ( talk) 12:32, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
A very British Tea Party: US anti-tax activists advise UK counterparts: London conference sees American rightwing movement share tactics with British and European tax lobby groups Some excerpts: " Libertarian US Tea Party organisations attended a conference in London today to share tactics with British and European taxpayer lobby groups, and described their activities as 'an insurgent campaign' against their government's tax and spending policies." " Terry Kibbe, a consultant at Freedom Works, which claims to convene 800,000 activists, told the Guardian she wants to help mobilise otherwise cerebral political institutions in the UK and Europe by helping them create grassroots activist wings." "Freedom Works trains Tea Party activists in running mass demonstrations and provides access to bespoke-designed software to allow activists to set up powerful computer networks that would otherwise be too expensive. It has also published an activist manual and will shortly issue a 'Rules for Patriots' booklet." "Americans for Prosperity ... headed by oil billionaire David Koch, was also represented at the London conference, and helped fund it." ""We have been working to identify groups in Europe that would be amenable to becoming more activist-based, think tanks that could start activist wings," said Kibbe. 'We have worked with the Taxpayers' Alliance, in Austria and in Italy, and we want to do more.' " "Other leading US rightwing thinktanks that financed the conference include the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation, the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation. Conservative MPs Peter Lilley and Robert Halfon spoke at the event, which was also attended by representatives from Philip Morris and Imperial Tobacco, the Global Warming Policy Foundation, a Climate change skeptical thinktank led by Lord Lawson, and BP. "'We need to reach out to a broader audience," said Barbara Kohn, secretary-general of the Hayek Institute in Vienna, which is one of Europe's leading low tax campaigners and has also been advised by Freedom Works. 'We need to come from various angles. We have all seen what our friends in the Tea Party movement, and their march, have achieved.'" Useful to this article? 99.54.143.8 ( talk) 02:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
The article reads:
FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. ... Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks,
Those statements, although both apparently sourced, clearly contradict each other. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently added this information to the article:
"FreedomWorks has been criticized by the Center for Public Integrity for how much it pays some of its employees. Former chairman Dick Armey was paid $500,000 per year (Washington Post source) and flew first class, along with other FreedomWorks employees, for work travel. President and CEO Matt Kibbe is paid $320,000 per year. Kibbe's wife, Terry, is a fundraiser for FreedomWorks.(Huffington Post/Center for Public Integrity source)"
This information has repeatedly been removed by an editor who has said: 1) "Undue weight for unremarkable leftist complaint against a conservative group." 2) "That HuffPo would complain is boilerplate. Find something that says that this is actually something people are talking about." 3) "Misrepresentation of Washpo Source. There is no criticism there. Quit pushing the POV"
I would note that I inserted the Washington Post source directly after "Armey was paid $500,000 per year," which the Washington Post source verifies. The data in both of these articles is taken directly from the group's 990, so I'm not sure how that can have a point of view. It is a point of view to put this in the criticism section (although the Huffington Post/Center for Public Integrity source is critical, that is their point of view). This information does seem relevant given Armey's pay-out. We could include this information elsewhere in the article if it would be more amenable. Perhaps a section called "executive pay?" Please discuss. Thanks. Safehaven86 ( talk) 17:30, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't an article be about the resignation of FreedomWorks' chair Dick Armey? This was a significant turning point in FreedomWorks' timeline. Gabefair ( talk) 01:07, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Aside from the rdue suggestion that it was a "pointed disruption," why was this edit of mine was reverted? Gobbleygook ( talk) 01:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
In the infobox, three legal statuses are provided. One website is provided. That is wrong, and very misleading. No organization can have more than one FEC filing status at the same time. This status determines what each organization can and can't do, and this shouldn't be muddled in the Wikipedia article. Sometimes Wikipedia combines all related organizations in one article, especially in one is a very minor subgroup such as an Education arm. I think that's how League of Women Voters is handled. Sometimes each organization has its own article. Either method works, but we need to be clear on which does what. If this is going to remain one article, then each org must be clearly connected with its own official site and legal status. 71.23.178.214 ( talk) 21:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
While I've avoided participating in the discussions on when and how to properly include "climate change denial" in articles about people and organizations, assuming the disputes will go to ArbCom at some point, this definitely seems like a organization that deserves the label. The Mother Jones ref is fine alone, but maybe with other references we could justify a stronger statement. -- Ronz ( talk) 00:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
"According to a December, 2009 article in Mother Jones magazine, FreedomWorks was one of the twelve most significant organizations in promulgating climate disinformation."
" WP:UNDUE isn't a factor" My understanding is that when it comes to content, NPOV is always a factor. Either the material is due or not. If it is not due as sourced, then my understanding is that:
This article appears to violate Wiki's rules as it blatantly endorses a book by a "member" of this group. It clearly endorses certain politicians over others. Most concerning for me, it references legislation that it "supports" that I contributed to. In this particular case, the legislation is distinctly bi-partisan aimed at helping to resolve a major issue impacting the lives of citizens and the finances of the United States. Bi-Partisanship is clearly documented when looking at the bill's text and legislators associated with it. National references from major news sources and publication are also bi-partisan.
Ironically, this articles appears to lack proper citation for many references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yhtak2014 ( talk • contribs) 15:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Kibbe has apparently moved on. Who is the current President?
Kibbe has apparently moved on. Who is the current President?
There is a "special report" from Mother Jones[ http://www.motherjones.com/special-reports/2009/12/dirty-dozen-climate-change-denial ] titled "The Dirty Dozen of Climate Change Denial" that is being used as a source on multiple pages, [3] including this one. Please comment there, and perhaps we can come to a consensus that applies to all the pages where this is used.
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This section only cites its own material ( WP:OR, WP:PRIMARY, WP:MISSION apply), except for one source. — Paleo Neonate – 17:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Karapally: has removed information apparently verified verified by the Politico ref, providing a National Review article as rationale, but without using that article as a reference in the modified version.
Per RSP, Politico is a better reference source in general.
Doesn't https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/dick-armey-freedomworks-kibbe-book-contract-smoking-gun/ verify the information? And https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/dick-armey-defends-million-deal-leave-freedomworks/story?id=18077760 ?
Should the information be restored, supported by the additional Mother Jones and ABC News articles? -- Hipal ( talk) 01:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
To get some idea if the cautionary labeling was accurate, I looked at editors scrubbing article. Some are almost certain Freedom Works or affiliated, i.e., Karapally, an SPA, and 38.140.165.74, which geolocates to Arlington, VA, and 98.204.52.203 to Washington, D.C. Activist ( talk) 01:29, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
I reverted the recent expansion [4] because it was not supported by the references without SYN problems and relying on the HuffPost ref that shouldn't be used per WP:RSP. There may be references in Cleta Mitchell that we could use, or others to be found. -- Hipal ( talk) 17:17, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Michael and I work for FreedomWorks. I will present a few requests for your review, given my declared COI. Kindly provide feedback or get back to me if anything needs modification. The requests generally seek to update the article with quality information backed by reliable sourcing. I will begin with two brief new sections, and will then follow-up with other changes requested throughout the article, these being mostly additions. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience. I will start with the first request below:
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The FreedomWorks Foundation is aimed, according to its website, at "educating and empowering Americans with the principles of individual liberty, small government, and free markets". As of 2018, it had $1.1 million in total assets. [1] In 2020, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation donated $100,000, plus $275,000 to the FreedomWorks Foundation to "support the Save Our Country initiative". The Save Our Country initiative launched in April 2020 by the FreedomWorks Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Tea Party Patriots, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and other right-wing organizations "to push for a quick reopening of the states". [2] [3] [4] [5] The effort was part of a $5 million fundraising drive, as well as a push to "mobilize activists to join 'liberate' demonstrations in more than 10 states", according to The Guardian. [6] In January 2020, the Foundation released a report on congressional reform. The report states legislators "ceded many of its constitutionally delegated powers to the executive branch and concentrated most of the rest in the hands of congressional leadership." They continue that their proposals for regulatory reform, as well as changes to the budgetary process, "will be met with skepticism from the left, as will their dismissal of the federal bureaucracy in general as an 'unconstitutional fourth branch of government.'" [7] Following the release of this report, FreedomWorks and other coalition members released a "Grading our Governors" scorecard on Governors' responses to handling the Coronavirus pandemic and its economic impact. Governor Ron DeSantis was one of nine to score an A. [8] The Foundation has a number of programs focused on FreedomWorks' reform goals. For instance, FreedomWorks launched a program titled Building Education for Students Together (BEST). According to Laura Zorc, FreedomWorks director of education reform, BEST advocates a "four to six-year plan to change out school boards", replacing their members with candidates "who represent their views". Emphasizing the "importance of parents", Zorc highlighted "trying to empower parents to know that it's your [their] job". [9] As part of BEST, FreedomWorks provides activists with a 6-week course, some of its taught methods including organizing press conferences, tackling school board meetings, creating letter-writing campaigns and how to file ethics complaints. [10] Among its slogans, BEST includes "Stop Racism. Stop Hate. Stop Critical Race Theory." [11] Another of its programs is its National Election Protection Initiative, launched in March 2021. The group's focus is to "support initiatives to educate poll workers and poll watchers, register voters and clean up voter rolls."
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Please move the paragraph starting with "In 2011, FreedomWorks launched a Super PAC called FreedomWorks for America" to the start of this new section. I propose you delete the next sentence regarding supported candidates, given these will be mentioned elsewhere. Replace the latter, with this sentence to cap the paragraph: FreedomWorks for America actively participates in U.S. House and Senate campaigns. [16] Continue the section with: Some of the candidates the PAC has supported include Representatives Mo Brooks and Ted Budd for the U.S. Senate. [17] [18] On the U.S. House level, endorsements have included Reps. Yvette Herrell ( NM-02), Maria Elvira Salazar ( FL-27), Burgess Owens ( UT-04), Matt Rosendale ( MT-AL), Mary Miller ( IL-15), and Nancy Mace ( SC-01). [19] Additionally, FreedomWorks for America was heavily involved in the Georgia U.S. Senate runoffs, reporting $578,392 in spending on printing, canvassing, and television ads for the Georgia run-offs. [20] The PAC notably endorsed former state solicitor general Ted Cruz early in 2010 before he abandoned his bid for state attorney general. [21] He was again endorsed early in the Senate race while also receiving tea-party support. [22] In July 12 and July 17 2012, the PAC recorded $71,000 in expenditures for this race. [23] Please move the paragraph starting with "In the 2010 congressional elections, FreedomWorks endorsed a number of candidates, including Marco Rubio" to this location, in its entirety. Finish the section off with the following paragraph: FreedomWorks for America has been known for being supporters of Reps. Thomas Massie, [24] David Schweikert ( AZ-06), [25] Chip Roy ( TX-21), [26] Scott Perry ( PA-10), Andy Biggs ( AZ-05), [27] Steve Chabot ( OH-01), [28] Dave Brat ( VA-07), [29] and Mark Meadows ( NC-11). [30] Done with minor edits. Heartmusic678 ( talk) 14:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC) |
Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging further. MJrJohnson ( talk) 07:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hi again. I am Michael from FreedomWorks. Moving forwards with our copy edit of the article, I will now present the second request for consideration, given my declared COI. Kindly provide feedback or get back to me if anything needs modification. The requests generally seek to update the article with quality information backed by reliable sourcing. In this particular case I will continue with the Legislation section, it being mostly additions of new information. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience.
Before the FreedomWorks supported the Electricity Security and Affordability Act paragraph, incorporate the following:
During the United States debt-ceiling crisis of 2011, FreedomWorks succeeded in extracting a concession from House Speaker John Boehner to get his debt ceiling bill through the House. [1] Together with other tea party activists, FreedomWorks lobbied to "add a provision making a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution a prerequisite for raising the debt ceiling." [2] The group has also thrown its support for the Right to Try Act (H.R. 878), introduced in 2017, a bill that would "allow terminally ill patients unrestricted access to experimental drug treatments." [3] [4]
After the unaltered aforementioned paragraph, continue as follows:
FreedomWorks supported the repeal of ObamaCare in its entirety, holding several campaigns with this intent, and meeting with President Trump to lobby for this repeal. [5] In 2017 FreedomWorks lobbied in favor of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. [6]
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FreedomWorks has lobbied for criminal justice reform, most notably through its support of the First Step Act. [7] [8] It supports the Smarter Sentencing Act of 2015, REDEEM Act, [9] and Email Privacy Act. [10] FreedomWorks opposes net neutrality regulations and submitted formal comments [11] [12] to the FCC "urging them to stay the course on their Restoring Internet Freedom Order". [13]
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The organization supported House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) and Representative Zoe Lofgren's introduction of the bipartisan Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act in April 2021. The bill "requires the government to get a court order to compel data brokers to disclose data", stopping "law enforcement and intelligence agencies buying data on people in the U.S. and about Americans abroad, if the data was obtained from a user's account or device, or via deception, hacking, violations of a contract, privacy policy, or terms of service." It also "takes away the Attorney General's authority to grant civil immunity to providers and other third parties for assistance with surveillance not required or permitted by statute", among other provisions. [14] [15]
FreedomWorks supported Republican Congressman Mike Garcia of California's introduction of the Inflation Prevention Act in February 2022. The bill would "bar legislation, based on an analysis of each bill from the Congressional Budget Office, found to increase inflation until the year-over-year inflation rate drops below 4.5 percent." [16] Congressman Bill Huizenga, and Senators Marco Rubio, Rick Scott, Tim Scott, and John Thune also showed their support. [17] The bill was sent to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee, with no companion measure in the House. [18]
It also lobbied against the Protecting the Right to Organize Act (H.R. 842), claiming it was "one of the most anti-worker and anti-business bills that we have ever seen brought to the House floor", given it would target "workers who choose not to join unions". [19] [20] According to the National Review, FreedomWorks was among twenty groups that "helped lead" the "Save America" Coalition, effectively "killing" President Biden's Build Back Better bill. According to the publication, among other efforts the groups collaborated to run "millions of dollars worth of advertising" to "pound the airwaves" in West Virginia and Arizona, where Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema (Democrats who expressed their displeasure with some aspects of the bill) are from. [21]
FreedomWorks also notably supports the filibuster as a parliamentary tool, [22] particularly as it pertains to Republican tools to counter Democratic initiatives such as the For the People Act [23] or proposed controls on prescription drug prices. [24] Along similar lines, the organization opposes President Biden's proposal of subsidizing American chip production, stating the latter "should be funded by private enterprise and not the American taxpayer." [25]
In 2021 FreedomWorks helped lobby a bipartisan group of senators to "halt efforts to increase new funding for the Internal Revenue Service". [26]
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@ Heartmusic678: I am pinging you due to your implementation last time around. I more than understand if your schedule is busy. In any case, thank you again for your help so far and thoughtful review. Regards, MJrJohnson ( talk) 07:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Michael and I work for FreedomWorks. After the observations made above, I will copy edit and condense these requests to mere paragraphs for your consideration, given my declared COI. I will begin with two brief new sections, and will then follow-up with other changes requested throughout the article, these being mostly additions. The requests are fully sourced and presented in full markup for your convenience. I will restart with the first request below:
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FreedomWorks Foundation The FreedomWorks Foundation had $1.1 million in total assets as of 2018. [1] In 2020, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation donated $100,000, plus $275,000 to the FreedomWorks Foundation to "support the Save Our Country initiative". [2] The Save Our Country initiative launched in April 2020 by the FreedomWorks Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the Tea Party Patriots, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and other right-wing organizations "to push for a quick reopening of the states". [3] [4] The effort was part of a $5 million fundraising drive, as well as a push to "mobilize activists to join 'liberate' demonstrations in more than 10 states", according to The Guardian. [5]
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Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging further. MJrJohnson ( talk) 20:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
"support the Save Our Country initiative"needs a citation to a reliable source. House Blaster talk 03:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)