The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after gaining a job as a singing waiter in 1938, Frank Sinatra(pictured) boasted that he would "become so big that no one could ever touch him"?
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Good article, so it is not like we do not want people to hear it. 06:01, 8 December 2017 (UTC)".
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At over 16k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read comfortably. It would be beneficial to condense and/or migrate content to subarticles to make this one more readable.
Nikkimaria (
talk) 19:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I would also like to mention the sheer amount of references on this article. You know you’ve gone a bit overboard if an article about a person has the same amount of citations as the
United States (609).
Eticangaaa (
talk) 18:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Lowercase or uppercase?
A few days ago I had written the titles of all the paragraphs with a lowercase initial, a little while ago someone entered capital letters but did not respect the consistency. Obviously I will not intervene, but since the paragraph "
Music career" is uppercase, while the paragraph "
Film career" is lowercase, I would like us to agree on which one to insert for the whole article, whether lower or uppercase.
JackkBrown (
talk) 17:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
JackkBrown, there was a recent
RfC on the question of capitalization after a colon in a section heading. It found consensus for the use of either lowercase or uppercase; generally, an article should use one or the other consistently. After your edit, @
Dima110: changed one heading to capital letters, and @
Carlinal: changed several others. Perhaps they can explain the basis for their change and why they didn't make all of the headings consistent.
Schazjmd(talk) 17:36, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
*Eating Christmas candy while on the phone listening to someone's body of work* Hm?
Oh, you mean
this. Well, I hoped I was consistent there, even if Consistency isn't my middle name. I focused only on the headings but not the sub-headings, which I now noticed and should've done. I also capitalized "Reprise years" because, uh, it was clearly referring to his
music label? My apologies. I aimed to do what was standard, overall.
Carlinal (
talk) 19:41, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Carlinal: given the inconsistency, I would propose writing the initial letters of all paragraph titles in lowercase.
JackkBrown (
talk) 19:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I just made
this edit to rectify the aforementioned mistake, but I wouldn't mind your proposal either way. :)
Carlinal (
talk) 19:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
"Death and funeral" section minor error
This edit is specific, uncontroversial, and sensible. The beginning of this section starts with "at During the final years of his life,".
The at should be removed.
Hidude21 (
talk) 23:29, 11 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Thank you. It has been removed. --
Onorem (
talk) 23:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)reply
How could he remaster a song in 1998 if he was in active in 1995
Source : come fly with me 1998 digital remaster
92.1.76.106 (
talk) 22:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after gaining a job as a singing waiter in 1938, Frank Sinatra(pictured) boasted that he would "become so big that no one could ever touch him"?
The rationale behind the request is: "Important" Addendum by
Mr. Guye: Subject is very high profile and thus this is a highly visible page. The subject is long dead, so it is also stable. Lastly, it is a
Good article, so it is not like we do not want people to hear it. 06:01, 8 December 2017 (UTC)".
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previous arguments being restated, especially about the infobox. Please read recent comments, look in the
archives, and review the
FAQ before commenting on that topic.
Please stay
calm and
civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and
do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. Ifconsensus is not reached,
other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.
This article is written in
American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other
varieties of English. According to the
relevant style guide, this should not be changed without
broad consensus.
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join the project and
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At over 16k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read comfortably. It would be beneficial to condense and/or migrate content to subarticles to make this one more readable.
Nikkimaria (
talk) 19:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I would also like to mention the sheer amount of references on this article. You know you’ve gone a bit overboard if an article about a person has the same amount of citations as the
United States (609).
Eticangaaa (
talk) 18:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Lowercase or uppercase?
A few days ago I had written the titles of all the paragraphs with a lowercase initial, a little while ago someone entered capital letters but did not respect the consistency. Obviously I will not intervene, but since the paragraph "
Music career" is uppercase, while the paragraph "
Film career" is lowercase, I would like us to agree on which one to insert for the whole article, whether lower or uppercase.
JackkBrown (
talk) 17:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
JackkBrown, there was a recent
RfC on the question of capitalization after a colon in a section heading. It found consensus for the use of either lowercase or uppercase; generally, an article should use one or the other consistently. After your edit, @
Dima110: changed one heading to capital letters, and @
Carlinal: changed several others. Perhaps they can explain the basis for their change and why they didn't make all of the headings consistent.
Schazjmd(talk) 17:36, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
*Eating Christmas candy while on the phone listening to someone's body of work* Hm?
Oh, you mean
this. Well, I hoped I was consistent there, even if Consistency isn't my middle name. I focused only on the headings but not the sub-headings, which I now noticed and should've done. I also capitalized "Reprise years" because, uh, it was clearly referring to his
music label? My apologies. I aimed to do what was standard, overall.
Carlinal (
talk) 19:41, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Carlinal: given the inconsistency, I would propose writing the initial letters of all paragraph titles in lowercase.
JackkBrown (
talk) 19:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I just made
this edit to rectify the aforementioned mistake, but I wouldn't mind your proposal either way. :)
Carlinal (
talk) 19:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)reply
"Death and funeral" section minor error
This edit is specific, uncontroversial, and sensible. The beginning of this section starts with "at During the final years of his life,".
The at should be removed.
Hidude21 (
talk) 23:29, 11 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Thank you. It has been removed. --
Onorem (
talk) 23:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)reply
How could he remaster a song in 1998 if he was in active in 1995
Source : come fly with me 1998 digital remaster
92.1.76.106 (
talk) 22:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)reply