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I was very disappointed by all the links that did not exist yet. That needs to be addressed and corrected by Wikipedia to maintain interest and credibility in your site. I would not send a student to this site at the present time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.199.32 ( talk) 17:32, 17 January 2004 (UTC)
Project Gutenberg contains a large number of her works but not, it is clear from other online bibliographies, all of them. Notable (to me at least!) in particular is the absence of the novel Robin, a sequel to The Head of The House Of Coombe. This absence is particularly noticable because the final paragraph of The Head of The House Of Coombe tells us that the story continues in Robin. According to an online bibliography, Robin was published in 1922, as was The Head of The House Of Coombe and I consequently deduce that it, too, should be out of copyright and available for transformation into e-text. I would very willingly volunteer to start this transformation by scanning the novel and starting it in Project Gutenberg's catalogue, if only I had access to it! If you do have a copy you would be willing to lend me, please contact me, Jenny Radcliffe, and I'll send my address!
I noticed Pavlo Moloshtan posted a link to to a page for Frances Hodgson Burnett, then Mwanner deleted it, labeling the change "rv spam". I think that's a bit harsh. I checked the ClassicOnline.org page out -- like the other links for this author, it contains additional biographical information on Burnett not found in this article or in the other external sites linked in this article. It's a non-commercial site and Pavlo Moloshtan appears to have posted the link to be helpful to readers. It's certainly of no lesser value than than the other links in this article.
I also read the note left on
Pavlo Moloshtan's talk page:
"See
WP:EL. Wikipedia is
not a link farm. Links should only be added if they have valuable information that does not belong in the article itself. If the information in the link does belong it the article, it should be re-written (to avoid copyright issues) and added to the article. In general, articles should have very few links, because very few links fit these criteria. The idea is that we want our articles to be the best possible source of information on a topic, not a short article followed by a long list of links to other articles-- one might as well just google the subject and read the first dozen sites if we are going to assemble long external link lists."
Whether or not this link should be in the article, I think it's harsh and unnecessary to delete a good-faith editing effort and label it "spam". It seems more polite (and better for the Wikipedia project) to thank the person for the link and then encourage them to add more information based on the link. At the same time, one could also genially get across the Wikipedia policy on external links. This approach seems in line with the general Wikipedia culture of encouraging other volunteers while continuing to improve the Wikipedia.
Is there something I'm missing here?-- A. B. 18:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm just curious--in the text, her first husband was cited as Dr. Donovan Brisk and later there was a mention of divorcing Dr. Burnett. Were they they same person? If not, at what point was Burnett added to her name? Mary-Theresa 21:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Although I only really know of her from The Secret Garden and The Little Princess, is there any particular reason why Burnett gave them both connections to India? Did she ever travel there, or did she hear stories about India from a friend or family member? Or did she just have a random fascination with the country? Just a question I'd been wondering about for a while. Irish ♣ Pearl 20:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
The article says "Following the death of her mother in 1872, 18 year old Frances found herself the head of a family of four younger siblings". However, her birthdate is given at 1849, which would have made her about 23 if her mother died in 1872. Simhedges 16:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Any relation to William Hope Hodgson ?
New Babylon 2 ( talk) 12:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
But Burnett had nothing to do with computer insurance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayau ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Removed this link (after first fixing it so it would work without checking the link, oops). Digitante ( talk) 05:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
An editor has removed the infobox from the article. I'm not sure that this is an improvement. I've already reverted one removal, and this removal at least reduces the image to a thumb. Opening up for discussion. Mjroots ( talk) 14:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Her 1917 novel The White People is missing from the list of works. It's here
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=burnett%2C+frances&amode=words&title=&tmode=words
and here
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_white_people.html?id=_94QAAAAYAAJ
among other places, but I'm not sure of the right way to reference and footnote when I add it, so maybe someone else should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.33.140 ( talk) 22:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
That's by far not the only missing work in that extremely selective "Selected Works" list - which I find very frustrating, because I came here to try to find original publication dates for her books His Grace of Osmonde (the sequel to A Lady of Quality) and The Dawn of a To-Morrow.
(If anyone here can direct me to either, not merely transcription dates, that would be welcome - thank you!)
-- 2.29.52.147 ( talk) 04:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
This article vacillates between referring to its subject as Frances, Eliza, Hodgson, and Burnett, I suspect because it has been edited by multiple people. However it would clearly be more readable if it picked one or two forms to be used when a mononym is required. Although Burnett is her married name, it's the name under which FHB is typically alphabetized (eg at Project Gutenberg), so I propose using it in all contexts after she is married, even after she divorces Swan Burnett, since her later work continues to be published using Burnett. Previous to that, I favour either Frances or Hodgson since she is never cited as Frances Eliza Hodgson Burnett so I think "Eliza" is confusing to the casual reader (I'm guessing from its use at all that she may have been known as Eliza to her friends or in her youth perhaps? But a note to this effect would be sufficient). As no one has touched this talk page since 2012, I'm just going to go ahead and start trying to regularize. -- Gretchenmcc ( talk) 21:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
The four-paragraph lead includes a three-paragraph biographical summary -- too long, perhaps entirely unnecessary. -- P64 ( talk) 20:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Rosiestep I noted your recent edit summary here, [3] and am curious what ORES is? I did most of the expansion to this article years ago but stopped because I didn't have access to some important sources. Some key sections are missing and the prose has never been polished, so who is predicting FA? Just curious. I've never seen that. Victoriaearle ( tk) 20:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
The article linked in this article spells his surname "TownEsend", with a note stating " His second name has also been cited as Townsend"; in the interest of apparent accuracy, then, this article ought to give "TownEsend" in each case, surely, given that was apparently the man's actual name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.232.230 ( talk) 17:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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I was very disappointed by all the links that did not exist yet. That needs to be addressed and corrected by Wikipedia to maintain interest and credibility in your site. I would not send a student to this site at the present time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.199.32 ( talk) 17:32, 17 January 2004 (UTC)
Project Gutenberg contains a large number of her works but not, it is clear from other online bibliographies, all of them. Notable (to me at least!) in particular is the absence of the novel Robin, a sequel to The Head of The House Of Coombe. This absence is particularly noticable because the final paragraph of The Head of The House Of Coombe tells us that the story continues in Robin. According to an online bibliography, Robin was published in 1922, as was The Head of The House Of Coombe and I consequently deduce that it, too, should be out of copyright and available for transformation into e-text. I would very willingly volunteer to start this transformation by scanning the novel and starting it in Project Gutenberg's catalogue, if only I had access to it! If you do have a copy you would be willing to lend me, please contact me, Jenny Radcliffe, and I'll send my address!
I noticed Pavlo Moloshtan posted a link to to a page for Frances Hodgson Burnett, then Mwanner deleted it, labeling the change "rv spam". I think that's a bit harsh. I checked the ClassicOnline.org page out -- like the other links for this author, it contains additional biographical information on Burnett not found in this article or in the other external sites linked in this article. It's a non-commercial site and Pavlo Moloshtan appears to have posted the link to be helpful to readers. It's certainly of no lesser value than than the other links in this article.
I also read the note left on
Pavlo Moloshtan's talk page:
"See
WP:EL. Wikipedia is
not a link farm. Links should only be added if they have valuable information that does not belong in the article itself. If the information in the link does belong it the article, it should be re-written (to avoid copyright issues) and added to the article. In general, articles should have very few links, because very few links fit these criteria. The idea is that we want our articles to be the best possible source of information on a topic, not a short article followed by a long list of links to other articles-- one might as well just google the subject and read the first dozen sites if we are going to assemble long external link lists."
Whether or not this link should be in the article, I think it's harsh and unnecessary to delete a good-faith editing effort and label it "spam". It seems more polite (and better for the Wikipedia project) to thank the person for the link and then encourage them to add more information based on the link. At the same time, one could also genially get across the Wikipedia policy on external links. This approach seems in line with the general Wikipedia culture of encouraging other volunteers while continuing to improve the Wikipedia.
Is there something I'm missing here?-- A. B. 18:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm just curious--in the text, her first husband was cited as Dr. Donovan Brisk and later there was a mention of divorcing Dr. Burnett. Were they they same person? If not, at what point was Burnett added to her name? Mary-Theresa 21:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Although I only really know of her from The Secret Garden and The Little Princess, is there any particular reason why Burnett gave them both connections to India? Did she ever travel there, or did she hear stories about India from a friend or family member? Or did she just have a random fascination with the country? Just a question I'd been wondering about for a while. Irish ♣ Pearl 20:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
The article says "Following the death of her mother in 1872, 18 year old Frances found herself the head of a family of four younger siblings". However, her birthdate is given at 1849, which would have made her about 23 if her mother died in 1872. Simhedges 16:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Any relation to William Hope Hodgson ?
New Babylon 2 ( talk) 12:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
But Burnett had nothing to do with computer insurance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayau ( talk • contribs) 14:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Removed this link (after first fixing it so it would work without checking the link, oops). Digitante ( talk) 05:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
An editor has removed the infobox from the article. I'm not sure that this is an improvement. I've already reverted one removal, and this removal at least reduces the image to a thumb. Opening up for discussion. Mjroots ( talk) 14:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Her 1917 novel The White People is missing from the list of works. It's here
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=burnett%2C+frances&amode=words&title=&tmode=words
and here
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_white_people.html?id=_94QAAAAYAAJ
among other places, but I'm not sure of the right way to reference and footnote when I add it, so maybe someone else should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.33.140 ( talk) 22:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
That's by far not the only missing work in that extremely selective "Selected Works" list - which I find very frustrating, because I came here to try to find original publication dates for her books His Grace of Osmonde (the sequel to A Lady of Quality) and The Dawn of a To-Morrow.
(If anyone here can direct me to either, not merely transcription dates, that would be welcome - thank you!)
-- 2.29.52.147 ( talk) 04:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
This article vacillates between referring to its subject as Frances, Eliza, Hodgson, and Burnett, I suspect because it has been edited by multiple people. However it would clearly be more readable if it picked one or two forms to be used when a mononym is required. Although Burnett is her married name, it's the name under which FHB is typically alphabetized (eg at Project Gutenberg), so I propose using it in all contexts after she is married, even after she divorces Swan Burnett, since her later work continues to be published using Burnett. Previous to that, I favour either Frances or Hodgson since she is never cited as Frances Eliza Hodgson Burnett so I think "Eliza" is confusing to the casual reader (I'm guessing from its use at all that she may have been known as Eliza to her friends or in her youth perhaps? But a note to this effect would be sufficient). As no one has touched this talk page since 2012, I'm just going to go ahead and start trying to regularize. -- Gretchenmcc ( talk) 21:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
The four-paragraph lead includes a three-paragraph biographical summary -- too long, perhaps entirely unnecessary. -- P64 ( talk) 20:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Rosiestep I noted your recent edit summary here, [3] and am curious what ORES is? I did most of the expansion to this article years ago but stopped because I didn't have access to some important sources. Some key sections are missing and the prose has never been polished, so who is predicting FA? Just curious. I've never seen that. Victoriaearle ( tk) 20:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
The article linked in this article spells his surname "TownEsend", with a note stating " His second name has also been cited as Townsend"; in the interest of apparent accuracy, then, this article ought to give "TownEsend" in each case, surely, given that was apparently the man's actual name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.232.230 ( talk) 17:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)